Rodgers miffed about loss of Van Pelt

[gbgary]

Just sharing the news, brah

my post wasn't directed at you.

 

[hallzi43]

Tell that to Sam Shields and the Rams

Sam Shields is like the 4th or 5th corner for the Rams playing on a contract with no guaranteed money. He is expendable to them. Rodgers is the Packers franchise.

 

[n4t]

When he states that we'd pay Rodgers a low-end management salary and NOT the QB salary and then have him come to all management meetings. Or was I to assume that his logic was that Rodgers would, for some strange reason, be ok with playing for the lowest salary among in the entire NFL (a salary that, by the way, would violate CBA rules if he was actually playing).

Haha clueless.

 

[gbgary]

I am not going to worry about his collarbone when it apparently was ok enough to come back late last season. I don't think if there were obvious problems they would have allowed him to come back against the Panthers.

he/they were desperate, there was a tiny sliver of hope that they'd make the playoffs, and he was largely ineffective in that game.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Sam Shields is like the 4th or 5th corner for the Rams playing on a contract with no guaranteed money. He is expendable to them. Rodgers is the Packers franchise.

The point was, a player isn't always going to do, say or know what is or isn't medically best or right for them. Further, if that shoulder was bothering AR, would he want to disclose that before signing his new big deal? We already saw that with Mo Bennett last year. Does AR and the Packers feel like his shoulder is 100%? Probably, but would you put $100+ Million on the line without really thoroughly testing it?

Him coming back to play at less than 100% last year, wasn't because his shoulder was perfectly fine, it was an attempt to get into the playoffs. Once eliminated, he was put right back on IR.

 

[gbgary]

Sam Shields is like the 4th or 5th corner for the Rams playing on a contract with no guaranteed money. He is expendable to them. Rodgers is the Packers franchise.

nope. he is/was their best player. the team was here long before him and will be here long after.

 

[hallzi43]

he/they were desperate, there was a tiny sliver of hope that they'd make the playoffs, and he was largely ineffective in that game.

The point is that I am not worried about him several months of rehab later when they weren't worried about him in December.

 

[hallzi43]

The point was, a player isn't always going to do, say or know what is or isn't medically best or right for them. Further, if that shoulder was bothering AR, would he want to disclose that before signing his new big deal? We already saw that with Mo Bennett last year. Does AR and the Packers feel like his shoulder is 100%? Probably, but would you put $100+ Million on the line without really thoroughly testing it?

Him coming back to play at less than 100% last year, wasn't because his shoulder was perfectly fine, it was an attempt to get into the playoffs. Once eliminated, he was put right back on IR.

I never said his shoulder was 100% last year. I said I wasn't worried about his shoulder going into the 2018 season.

 

[hallzi43]

nope. he is/was their best player. the team was here long before him and will be here long after.

I think it is hilarious with 15+ teams a season looking for viable quarterbacks ever season that you are willing to shed Rodgers because "hey, look at what Nick Foles did!".

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I never said his shoulder was 100% last year. I said I wasn't worried about his shoulder going into the 2018 season.

I get your point, worrying won't change his shoulder, nor will it prevent him from going full tilt in 2018. However, if you are signing a guy to the kind of money that is being thrown around, isn't it prudent to be 100% positive that there are no complications from that injury that could ultimately affect his play?

 

[gbgary]

btw...my "start the rebuild now with a big head start" only works now, this year, with 3-#1's (cle's #1's and ours at 14). next year will probably be too late.

 

[gbgary]

I think it is hilarious with 15+ teams a season looking for viable quarterbacks ever season that you are willing to shed Rodgers because "hey, look at what Nick Foles did!".

i never said that.

 

[PackerDNA]

You just can't ask your franchise QB to **** and do his job, ffs!

And from all reports, he has been not been taking anything to the 'effin media. He was asked a interview question and managed to answer it well.

The recent quotes above smell like back peddling. This has been going on for a while now.
And yes, you do expect him to **** up and do his job.

 

[hallzi43]

I get your point, worrying won't change his shoulder, nor will it prevent him from going full tilt in 2018. However, if you are signing a guy to the kind of money that is being thrown around, isn't it prudent to be 100% positive that there are no complications from that injury that could ultimately affect his play?

I don't really believe there are any complications. But I also don't think we lock up a deal with him before the season starts. Not that talks are hinging on his shoulder or anything, but because they have time and both sides are looking for the best deal.

 

[hallzi43]

i never said that.

Starting a rebuild basically says that.

 

[hallzi43]

Especially when you are saying that he isn't our franchise.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I don't really believe there are any complications. But I also don't think we lock up a deal with him before the season starts. Not that talks are hinging on his shoulder or anything, but because they have time and both sides are looking for the best deal.

I feel the same as far as the timing. Let him work through camps and preseason and than lock him up to start the season if all is good. Only way I see moving away from that is if the Packers find a player that requires more cap and a restructuring of Rogers contract is necessary to provide that.

 

[gbgary]

Starting a rebuild basically says that.

no it doesn't. foles? lol.
i'm saying there are several teams better than the Packers, we don't have the cap room to get any better, that this year (if cle was agreeable) there is a golden opportunity to get a big head start on the rebuild you know is coming, and that the cap issues would be over for several years, if an aging, questionably durable Rodgers was traded. that's what i'm saying. if it doesn't happen this year they'll just end up doing it the hard way.

 

[rmontro]

I don't think anyone believes that the front office should get Rodgers permission to make personnel changes. Giving him a heads up about his quarterback coach wouldn't have hurt anything though. It's fairly clear he took it as a sign of disrespect that they didn't. It's almost as if they are going out of their way to tick him off, and I don't see the upside of that.

 

[hallzi43]

no it doesn't. foles? lol.
i'm saying there are several teams better than the Packers, we don't have the cap room to get any better, that this year (if cle was agreeable) there is a golden opportunity to get a big head start on the rebuild you know is coming, and that the cap issues would be over for several years, if an aging, questionably durable Rodgers was traded. that's what i'm saying. if it doesn't happen this year they'll just end up doing it the hard way.

Several teams better on paper. But what you aren't accounting for is that Rodgers makes us a playoff team. Gives us a realistic chance at a Super Bowl. The rebuild isn't coming until Rodgers is out the door. And at that point, you will peel away the gold foil and realize it was just chocolate all along. We have been foolishly lucky over the years to have 2 of the greatest quarterbacks of all time at the helm. The bad years were bad. Worse than 2017. No thanks to rolling the dice on that.

 

[sschind]

I will ask Danica about that shoulder, when she crawls into bed tonight.

You mean you have her cell phone number? WOW

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

You mean you have her cell phone number? WOW

True story.....up until yesterday, for a few months I have only had one follower on my Twitter account.....you guessed it, its Danica.

 

[RRyder]

I don't think anyone believes that the front office should get Rodgers permission to make personnel changes. Giving him a heads up about his quarterback coach wouldn't have hurt anything though. It's fairly clear he took it as a sign of disrespect that they didn't. It's almost as if they are going out of their way to tick him off, and I don't see the upside of that.

The flip side is if you give him a heads up and he expresses his desire for the organization to go one way and they still decide to go another way it comes off as a giant middle finger

 

[Mondio]

Most people just call him Dan

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Most people just call him Dan

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