Rodgers miffed about loss of Van Pelt

[PackerDNA]

Rodgers should just **** and do his job. That said, if there are things that bother him, he should take it to the people in question in private, and not in the 'effin media.

 

[Mondio]

When he states that we'd pay Rodgers a low-end management salary and NOT the QB salary and then have him come to all management meetings. Or was I to assume that his logic was that Rodgers would, for some strange reason, be ok with playing for the lowest salary among in the entire NFL (a salary that, by the way, would violate CBA rules if he was actually playing).

It was stupid ****ing hyperbole. We don't pay Rodgers to give his input to roster or coaching decisions. I appears he understands that. That's good. Now he can concentrate on being the quarterback.

 

[C-Lee]

"You have to trust the process ... and the process works." Added "they're paying me to play quarterback... and there's interest on both side in getting (a contract extension) done." - Aaron Rodgers

 

[ShockwaveRider]

Let me preface this by stating, for the record, that I am probably the biggest AR12 homer on the planet. That being said this is a "what have you done for me lately" league.

AR12 missed significant time in 2 of his 10 starting seasons. He also pulled up lame and gimp a couple of other times.

Ultimately the Packers are going to have to "move on" and christen a new starting QB. I honestly hope that time has not yet arrived.

I grew up watching Bart Starr and the Lombardi Packers. I suffered through the 70s and 80s with the rest of you, until Brett Favre brought the Packers back to respectability.

No one man is greater than the team. Not even AR12.

I wish AR12 would just stick to his rehab (and boning DP) and let the Packers management worry about the rest.

Shockwave

 

[C-Lee]

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[PackAttack12]

Let me preface this by stating, for the record, that I am probably the biggest AR12 homer on the planet. That being said this is a "what have you done for me lately" league.

AR12 missed significant time in 2 of his 10 starting seasons. He also pulled up lame and gimp a couple of other times.

The answer to the question "what have you done for me lately" is "I've kept your organization relevant since the last time you provided me with a top 10 defense".

 

[PackAttack12]

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Nothing more to see here.

 

[AmishMafia]

So you are saying there should be a "hierarchy of decision making duties" for each player based on their pay? Aaron Rodgers being the #1 guy, gets input on coaching decisions and player transactions. Clay Matthews gets input on defensive schemes being run? Randall Cobb gets to sit in on meetings to decide what UDFA WR's should be signed........all the way down to DeAngelo Yancey getting to decide the team snack for Monday?

A line has to be drawn somewhere between Players and "staff". If you blur that line, I just don't think anything good comes from it. Who is running the team, the players or others?

In one sense, I would like his input on WR ratings. He may have insight and buy-in on developing a WR if he had input. But, the problem is if you don't take his choice it may work exactly the opposite. That is he maybe less likely to target a WR because it wasnt his choice. That is, the evaluation process may set up preconceived notions in ARs mind, whether he is conscious of it or not. For that reason, I would keep the players separate from the front office.

When he states that we'd pay Rodgers a low-end management salary and NOT the QB salary and then have him come to all management meetings. Or was I to assume that his logic was that Rodgers would, for some strange reason, be ok with playing for the lowest salary among in the entire NFL (a salary that, by the way, would violate CBA rules if he was actually playing).

Yes. The entire post was a satirical comment on AR dabbling in front office matters.

 

[gbgary]

can he even take a hit on his surgically pieced-together collar bone? i wouldn't extend him until we know. it's waaaaay too late in free agency to do any good, and i love the guy, but ya know...the #1, #4, a good/great defensive player or two, and no cap issues for the foreseeable, still look pretty good. does anyone realistically think we're superbowl bound anyway? start the rebuild now with a big head start.

 

[XPack]

Rodgers should just **** and do his job. That said, if there are things that bother him, he should take it to the people in question in private, and not in the 'effin media.

You just can't ask your franchise QB to **** and do his job, ffs!

And from all reports, he has been not been taking anything to the 'effin media. He was asked a interview question and managed to answer it well.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

can he even take a hit on his surgically pieced-together collar bone? i wouldn't extend him until we know. .

This has been in the back of my mind for a long time and I hope it's in the front of Gute and Ball's minds when they are figuring out the contract, it has to be. We all want to believe that #12 will continue to play like #12 has, but will he? IS that shoulder fine and is it going to be fine? As much as I want AR to be the Packers QB for the next 5+ years, I would sure hate to lock in the Packers to a huge guaranteed contract, just to find out that his shoulder has changed his abilities. Not to mention the fact that he is under contract already for 2 more year. It's a careful dance for sure.

 

[XPack]

can he even take a hit on his surgically pieced-together collar bone? i wouldn't extend him until we know. it's waaaaay too late in free agency to do any good, and i love the guy, but ya know...

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[RRyder]

does anyone realistically think we're superbowl bound anyway? start the rebuild now with a big head start.

The last time Rodgers played a full year we were one game away from the SB and were looking like they were going to be right there again last year before he went down. So yes. I'd say they have a realistic chance at it assuming full health.

(God I hope your joking about trading Rodgers)

 

[C-Lee]

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[hallzi43]

can he even take a hit on his surgically pieced-together collar bone? i wouldn't extend him until we know. it's waaaaay too late in free agency to do any good, and i love the guy, but ya know...the #1, #4, a good/great defensive player or two, and no cap issues for the foreseeable, still look pretty good. does anyone realistically think we're superbowl bound anyway? start the rebuild now with a big head start.

I mean...we are one year removed from the NFC Championship and 4-1 before Rodgers went down with injury last season. Let's slow down with the rebuild talk.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Again, Rodgers is kind of a diva and this is for contract talks.

Worst case scenario, he has two years left, and an additional two franchise tags. He would be 38 after that. Works for me.

Definitely something I have thought about as well and the only pitfall with doing it, is what we are seeing right now, his attitude might make that scenario blow right up in the organizations face. He knows he is playing for less than market and if it appears the Packers are going to say "yup, we don't care, we can lock you up for 4 years and you can't do a thing", I think we could see a full on "full metal jacket" shift in his personality.

 

[C-Lee]

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[ShockwaveRider]

can he even take a hit on his surgically pieced-together collar bone?

Well, now, you went and said it. You went and said what I was afraid to say; afraid to think.

I'd be overjoyed to see AR12 hoist the Lombardi Trophy two or three more times in his career as a Green Bay Packer. Believe me, I would.

But I also wonder about the collarbone. I know that if I'm a big fat mean DL (instead of just a big fat mean internet troll) I'd be planning to bounce my lard off that collarbone.

I also don't think "keeping a team relevant" is the primary function of a $100M+ QB.

Secondary, tertiary, sure.

Shockwave

 

[gbgary]

The last time Rodgers played a full year we were one game away from the SB and were looking like they were going to be right there again last year before he went down. So yes. I'd say they have a realistic chance at it assuming full health.

(God I hope your joking about trading Rodgers)

the team is appreciably weaker now than it was in 2016, other teams are appreciably better than they were and better than the Packers are now, and Rodgers wasn't coming off a serious injury (for a quarterback). it's night and day. and as for your last question...not really.

 

[gbgary]

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of course he'll say that. there are 150 million reasons to say that.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

of course he'll say that. there are 150 million reasons to say that.

I will ask Danica about that shoulder, when she crawls into bed tonight.

 

[C-Lee]

of course he'll say that. there are 150 million reasons to say that.

Just sharing the news, brah

 

[hallzi43]

the team is appreciably weaker now than it was in 2016, other teams are appreciably better than they were and better than the Packers are now, and Rodgers wasn't coming off a serious injury (for a quarterback). it's night and day. and as for your last question...not really.

Are we appreciably weaker than last season? Not at all. And we haven't even hit the draft yet.

 

[hallzi43]

I am not going to worry about his collarbone when it apparently was ok enough to come back late last season. I don't think if there were obvious problems they would have allowed him to come back against the Panthers.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I am not going to worry about his collarbone when it apparently was ok enough to come back late last season. I don't think if there were obvious problems they would have allowed him to come back against the Panthers.

Tell that to Sam Shields and the Rams