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All that said. IF Rodgers gets on a team that all they need is a QB? I still think he could make some noise. He’s not coming off injury anymore and he has appeal to draw a few athletes. He doesn’t have the luxury of time anymore. It’ll take 2-3 years to straighten that mess in NY.

Hate to say it. The only teams I can think of that would be a good fit is actually the Vikings and I dare say.. Seattle. Most good teams are pretty set at QB. I have no idea what the plans are in MN or Seattle at QB. I do think Seattle might be an option if Gene struggles any more at INT. Seattle would be at 9-4 with Rodgers.
Rodgers almost poisoned the well in GB but Gluten was smart enough to dump him before that could happen. He poisoned the water with the Jets.

Rodgers is a great QB who has seen much better days. even so, he could probably play another year or two, but he's just a toxic personality. He brings more grief to a team than value. Even in a league desperate for QBs, he's very close to being unemployable. But it's the NFL. Some owner will be dumb enough to pick him up if/when the Jets' gig ends.
 

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Darnold has played very well in minihaha. Unless he does not like Minneapolis; it seems like a pretty good fit. But I don't think the vikes can lowball him because he's shown that he can play and someone will offer real money I believe. The real chance, imho, would be going with their rookie. So personally, I would rather see that.
 

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Darnold has played very well in minihaha. Unless he does not like Minneapolis; it seems like a pretty good fit. But I don't think the vikes can lowball him because he's shown that he can play and someone will offer real money I believe. The real chance, imho, would be going with their rookie. So personally, I would rather see that.
I guess it's a good problem for MN to have. I'm sure they want Darnold back, but would be unwilling to commit to a contract longer than 2 years - assuming they've got their next QB in McCarthy, a pretty solid assumption.
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A QB-needy team would be willing to give Darnold at least a 3-year deal, and he'd be crazy not to take that. As for $$$, hard to say. He's a QB on a very good team. He's not gonna find a better WR duo than Jefferson and Addison. But these things come down to money. If he's offered a 3 year plus deal worth, say $120 mil with $40-$50 mil guaranteed, he'd have to take it. And I don't think MN would match that with McCarthy in house.

(Is the guy's name McCarthy? I know his initials are J.J. and he played at MI. Well, you know who I'm referring to.)
 
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There are 5 teams in the NFL that haven't scored more than 30 pts in a game this season.

1. 2-11 New York Giants
2. 2-11 Las Vegas Raiders
3. 3-10 New England Patriots
4. 3-10 New York Jets
And the 5th team is.................... yup you guessed it.............
The 12-1 Kansas City Chiefs ( Have scored exactly 30 twice, but not more than).

Now who would ever think that a team led by either Mahomes or Rodgers, not to mention both in the same year, wouldn't have a game where their team scored more than 30 pts in a game, 13 games into the season....Crazy times we are living in.

That aside, how can the Chiefs even be in this conversation, at 12-1??? Another odd stat for this Chiefs team, is they only have a +58 pt differential, while the Lions, with the same exact 12-1 record, are a +183.
 
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There are 5 teams in the NFL that haven't scored more than 30 pts in a game this season.

1. 2-11 New York Giants
2. 2-11 Las Vegas Raiders
3. 3-10 New England Patriots
4. 3-10 New York Jets
And the 5th team is.................... yup you guessed it.............
The 12-1 Kansas City Chiefs

Now who would ever think that a team led by either Mahomes or Rodgers, not to mention both in the same year, wouldn't have a game where their team scored 30 pts in a game, 13 games into the season....Crazy times we are living in.

That aside, how can the Chiefs even be in this conversation, at 12-1??? Another odd stat for this Chiefs team, is they only have a +58 pt differential, while the Lions, with the same exact 12-1 record, are a +183.
Interesting. To me, this shows that all that matters is winning. A SB between the Chiefs and Lions would be interesting, well the Chiefs and Packers would be better. I really don't expect the Chiefs to get back to the SB - but I think that's what I thought last year at this time too. Great teams just find ways to win.

It's gonna be an interesting month ahead.
 

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Interesting. To me, this shows that all that matters is winning.
Bingo!! Winning is the objective, not by how much, or the amount of yards the Defense is giving up. The thing that matters most is how many points are you giving up, and scoring more than your opponent at the end of the day. In the grand scheme of things, the Packers have done a pretty good job at that this year. In 7 or our 9 wins, the Defense has given up less than 20 points.... in 3 of our 4 losses, the opposition has scored 30+.
 

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Bingo!! Winning is the objective, not by how much, or the amount of yards the Defense is giving up. The thing that matters most is how many points are you giving up, and scoring more than your opponent at the end of the day. In the grand scheme of things, the Packers have done a pretty good job at that this year. In 7 or our 9 wins, the Defense has given up less than 20 points.... in 3 of our 4 losses, the opposition has scored 30+.
Yeah I'm optimistic looking at the month ahead. The CBs are probably the weakest link on the team, and it doesn't help with JA out for what sees like every game. All the remaining games look winnable, and given the pathetic state of the NFC South and West, a playoff spot is very doable.
 

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The Jets made it off the list, as they scored 32 pts today. Aaron threw 3 TD's, and Davante Adams caught 9 for 198, and 2 TD's ( all in the 2nd half, as he had no catches at halftime)
 
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Rodgers almost poisoned the well in GB but Gluten was smart enough to dump him before that could happen. He poisoned the water with the Jets.

Rodgers is a great QB who has seen much better days. even so, he could probably play another year or two, but he's just a toxic personality. He brings more grief to a team than value. Even in a league desperate for QBs, he's very close to being unemployable. But it's the NFL. Some owner will be dumb enough to pick him up if/when the Jets' gig ends.
yeah it definitely needs to be on a team with a Coach that has a compatible personality.
Aaron is definitely a unique character.
 

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Rodgers almost poisoned the well in GB but Gluten was smart enough to dump him before that could happen. He poisoned the water with the Jets.

Rodgers is a great QB who has seen much better days. even so, he could probably play another year or two, but he's just a toxic personality. He brings more grief to a team than value. Even in a league desperate for QBs, he's very close to being unemployable. But it's the NFL. Some owner will be dumb enough to pick him up if/when the Jets' gig ends.
Maybe if Tua is deened “done” in Mia
 

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Maybe if Tua is deened “done” in Mia
That would make sense but I don't see Tua leaving Miami unless he comes to his senses and gets the hell out for his health. He plays well when he plays, so unless someone tells him no......

But imagining a QB vacancy in Miami, yeah Rodgers would fit. One more team for him to destroy on his way to South America.
 

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I like watching Rodgers. I guess because he was a Packer for so long. But I sure don't miss his facial expressions after almost every bad play.
Great QB and a lot of fun to watch. To this day he made throws I have never seen before.

Now his skills are trailing off and he is just an unlikable guy. He's back on Pat McAfee's show and for the life of me, I don't know what a guy on a team with a 4-10 team has so much to laugh about.
 
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Great QB and a lot of fun to watch. To this day he made throws I have never seen before.

Now his skills are trailing off and he is just an unlikable guy. He's back on Pat McAfee's show and for the life of me, I don't know what a guy on a team with a 4-10 team has so much to laugh about.
Maybe he has comfortable shoes??
 

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Now who would ever think that a team led by either Mahomes or Rodgers, not to mention both in the same year, wouldn't have a game where their team scored more than 30 pts in a game, 13 games into the season....Crazy times we are living in.
I'm not surprised about Rodgers. He's washed up and has only thrown for over 300 yards once this season.
 

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Rodgers just doesn't throw enough deep passes in the middle of the field. Either its short stuff with rhe Jets or low percentage deep routes on the sideline. The Jets offense looks as stale as the 2018 Packers.
 

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Rodgers just doesn't throw enough deep passes in the middle of the field. Either its short stuff with rhe Jets or low percentage deep routes on the sideline. The Jets offense looks as stale as the 2018 Packers.
Thanks for the info Sc.

What I noticed the few times I've seen him play, and going back to at least his last year in GB, is that he just can't get outside the pocket like he used to. He was great outside the pocket. That's a mobility problem and certainly contributed to his achilles injury.

I did see him make some very Rodgers-esque throws, throws that no one else can make. They don't seem to be happening as often. Well he's what, 41? "Gravity always wins."
 

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I'm not surprised about Rodgers. He's washed up and has only thrown for over 300 yards once this season.
One big difference is that Mahomes is now on a team that is 14-1, Rodgers is on a team that is 4-11.

Mahomes is having an off year by his standards. Even so, and even when injured, he knows how to win games and he's seen as a real leader. Rodgers certainly knew how to win games but he's not the same guy - and he's a lot older than Mahomes.

I'll be surprised if Rodgers doesn't quit after this season. He's on his way to the HOF and has nothing to prove. And the Jets' problems aren't of Rodgers' making anyway. That organization is seriously ****** up.
 

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One big difference is that Mahomes is now on a team that is 14-1, Rodgers is on a team that is 4-11.
The Jets are 4-11, but they've been very competitive - they have 7 losses by one possession. If Rodgers was a bit better, they could be 7-8 or 8-7 instead of 4-11.
 

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The Jets are 4-11, but they've been very competitive - they have 7 losses by one possession. If Rodgers was a bit better, they could be 7-8 or 8-7 instead of 4-11.
Yeah I haven't been following closely but it does seem like they've lost a lot of close games, so thanks for the stats. They have talent but lack leadership.

The problem with the Jets certainly precede Rodgers. The owner is toxic to his own team.
 
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Pocket Time 2.1 sec is bordering on terrible. Worst in last full 6 seasons

Rodgers dropped passes (5.6%)
were 2nd worst in last 6 seasons
(2022 worst at 7.8%)

Rodgers 12 Batted Passes are worst in last 6 full seasons.

Bad throw 16.7% is about his 6 year average nothing unusual at all. Norm

49 QB Hits are Worst in last 6 years (still with 2 more games left to play)

5.86% Sack % is good. Below average and commendable level.


16 Scrambles at 6.4 per are normal.
 
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What I’m seeing is Rodgers has less than ideal time to throw. He taking pressure in his face and having to compensate by running plays that get the ball out fast. While he didn’t take Sacks, the pressure lowered his per attempt to a career low 6.6 per

Rodgers didn’t run much for obvious reasons. His 22 attempts are a career low. Although his average per run is normal. 10-15 seasons ago Rodgers silently punished teams running. He ranks Top 10 in NFL history QB rushing yards.

Aaron has 10 games without an INT. He’s taking care of the ball really well. Especially considering leaning sensitive on mobility.

Rodgers Stats as a whole are most similar to 2010 where he went
28 TD 11 INT 3,922. Although his QB rating is slightly lower due to drop in per efficiency and no mobility (0 rushing TD)

Pacing in 2024 Rodgers is
27 TD 9 INT 3,912
His QB rating is slightly lower but he’s earned every penny of his $37.5M imo.

My General 45 minute evaluation says Aaron Rodgers isn’t the problem. At least statistically. I’m not getting into speculation on his impact in other areas because it’s not quantifiable.

What’s NOT Rodgers fault is this.
1. The Jets don’t have a Running game
#32 in attempts #31 in per carry.

2. The Jets OL is not good at all

3. The Jets Defense is in that Top 8-12 area in totality. Not good enough to compensate for a poor graded OL or poor Run grade.
 
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