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Yes. I actually remember that game well. I can tell you where I was (Buffalo Wild Wings, Roanoke Va) The people I was with weren’t big Footbsll fans but i was decked in Packer gear.

I really think we just let our guard down to be truthful. It’s hard to go
13-0 and lock up a #1 Seed and not celebrate early.
I actually went down to see that game. Decent weather for December. Nice parking complex, comfortable seats, and hospitable fans. Packers seemed to wish they could have the week off. Like going to work when you do not feel like it.
 

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Detroit sleepwalked through the Bears game and should have paid a price. But the "Double-Doink Syndrome" saved them. Didn't save Eberflus - but at least he can be home with family for Christmas.
Or to look at it another way: Winning teams win, and losing teams lose. Because that's what they know how to do.
 

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Yes. I actually remember that game well. I can tell you where I was (Buffalo Wild Wings, Roanoke Va) The people I was with weren’t big Footbsll fans but i was decked in Packer gear.

I really think we just let our guard down to be truthful. It’s hard to go
13-0 and lock up a #1 Seed and not celebrate early.
Don't forget the other loss - one and done in the playoffs
 
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Don't forget the other loss - one and done in the playoffs
O oh. How can I forget. I went through that and my Wife left me in the same month! I wrote a Tune (not a song because I didn’t pair this one with lyrics or Singing) that week. All Paired Photos compliment of the Packers.com

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Good point. They were 15-1 that year. Who beat them in the playoffs? And was that 2011-2012, the year after the SB win? Thanks HE.
Yes, the year after the SB. We get derailed by a wild card. A 15-1 season made it looked like a Dynasty was coming. The Giants showed all of us what defense was that year. And they did get lucky against the Pats.
 

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Yes, the year after the SB. We get derailed by a wild card. A 15-1 season made it looked like a Dynasty was coming. The Giants showed all of us what defense was that year. And they did get lucky against the Pats.
That was a very fun season, until it wasn't. About as much fun as you can have without winning it all. I guess the Giants had to show us what defense was though, because GB sure didn't have one.
 

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Yes, the year after the SB. We get derailed by a wild card. A 15-1 season made it looked like a Dynasty was coming. The Giants showed all of us what defense was that year. And they did get lucky against the Pats.
The Giants! Damn they beat us in an NFCCG in GB as well. Favre was still QB and threw one of his game-killing INTs, I think in OT. It was very cold and the Giants prevailed and won the SB. Tom Coughlin's nose looked like it needed to be amputated it was so damn cold.

And then after that game/season, didn't Favre announce his first retirement from football? I think he retired and unretired 3 times. He unretired after the Packers had designated Rodgers as the QB and well after the draft. What a farce. He had an unforgettable season with the Jets and then two v good seasons w/ the queens. If my memory is right, he threw another INT in the NFCCG against the Saints and the Saints went on to win the SB.
 

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The Giants! Damn they beat us in an NFCCG in GB as well. Favre was still QB and threw one of his game-killing INTs, I think in OT. It was very cold and the Giants prevailed and won the SB. Tom Coughlin's nose looked like it needed to be amputated it was so damn cold.

And then after that game/season, didn't Favre announce his first retirement from football? I think he retired and unretired 3 times. He unretired after the Packers had designated Rodgers as the QB and well after the draft. What a farce. He had an unforgettable season with the Jets and then two v good seasons w/ the queens. If my memory is right, he threw another INT in the NFCCG against the Saints and the Saints went on to win the SB.
Yes, it was about minus 3 at kickoff. It felt colder. Giants missed several FGs before they finally hit the one. They stopped our run game and we could not get anyone free over the middle. A roughing the passer penalty on Nick Collins as well as a holding penalty on Al Harris killed us in the 2nd half. GMen even fumbled their own INT that we recovered. Then they fumbled a punt near midfield in the last 2 minutes but we did everything but land on it. That could have and should have been the winner for us.
 

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Yes, it was about minus 3 at kickoff. It felt colder. Giants missed several FGs before they finally hit the one. They stopped our run game and we could not get anyone free over the middle. A roughing the passer penalty on Nick Collins as well as a holding penalty on Al Harris killed us in the 2nd half. GMen even fumbled their own INT that we recovered. Then they fumbled a punt near midfield in the last 2 minutes but we did everything but land on it. That could have and should have been the winner for us.
Thanks milani. Your memory is much better than mine. Minus 3 degrees at the start. ****in eh who says football is not a hard game??????

That was a tough, tough loss. I hate to say it, but the Giants were a team of destiny that year. I still have the picture of that FG sailing through the dark sky in a frozen sky over Lambeau. That was heartbreaking. But even that game would then pale in comparison to the 2014 choke spectacular against the Hags in 2014.
 

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That was a very fun season, until it wasn't. About as much fun as you can have without winning it all. I guess the Giants had to show us what defense was though, because GB sure didn't have one.
The story never changes. A SB winner needs to have a great D. So it is written, somewhere.......
 

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I remember watching Brett in that game. He looked so cold. And like he did not want to be there. It gets colder as you age. I'll say it again. I don't think GB should have night games when it is so cold.
 

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The story never changes. A SB winner needs to have a great D. So it is written, somewhere.......
It's strange how you can go from having a top five defense and winning the SB one year, to dead last in defense the next.

I actually don't think they were the worst defense in the league though. They finished last in yards, but led the league in interceptions. Problem with that is if you don't get your INTs, you're screwed.
 

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Turnovers should be viewed as icing on the cake. It's great to get them but don't rely in them to stop teams. At some point, a true Super Bowl contender has to make teams punt the ball. With some of Capers' defenses, it was feast or famine with the interceptions and unfortunately, the famine hit in the 2011 playoff game against NY.
 

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Thanks milani. Your memory is much better than mine. Minus 3 degrees at the start. ****in eh who says football is not a hard game??????

That was a tough, tough loss. I hate to say it, but the Giants were a team of destiny that year. I still have the picture of that FG sailing through the dark sky in a frozen sky over Lambeau. That was heartbreaking. But even that game would then pale in comparison to the 2014 choke spectacular against the Hags in 2014.
It was so cold that I did not think the kicker could send it that far even with a golf club. He said his toes were badly bruised after the game. In the 1996 playoffs Chris Jacke kicked 3 FGs. It was about plus 2 at kickoff but the wind chill had it about 7 below. But I remember Jacke tried a 46 yarder in the first quarter that fell short. So I said no way could anyone generate enough 15 years later. But he did.
 

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It's strange how you can go from having a top five defense and winning the SB one year, to dead last in defense the next.

I actually don't think they were the worst defense in the league though. They finished last in yards, but led the league in interceptions. Problem with that is if you don't get your INTs, you're screwed.
That is a mystery, but it does happen. After the Rams won the SB with Stafford, the whole team tanked the following year. Detroit got a lot of draft picks for Stafford, and those became high picks after the Rams tanked. I seem to recall at least one year where they had multiple, high first round picks.

And you're right about INTs. First of all they aren't predictable and second there's no guarantee they will result in points. Goff recently threw 5 INTs in one game and the Lions still won.

Anyway, back to the present, I like GB's defense. It's taken some time to adjust to Hafley and the 4-3 design, but they are now playing as well as anytime this season. We'll see how that works tonight against a loaded Lions' offense.
 

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It was so cold that I did not think the kicker could send it that far even with a golf club. He said his toes were badly bruised after the game. In the 1996 playoffs Chris Jacke kicked 3 FGs. It was about plus 2 at kickoff but the wind chill had it about 7 below. But I remember Jacke tried a 46 yarder in the first quarter that fell short. So I said no way could anyone generate enough 15 years later. But he did.
It must be brutal to kick a ball in that weather, like kicking a big rock. And for some reason, the ball gets slippery in very cold weather. I didn't think the Giants' kicker was going to make that one, but he did. We've enjoyed a lot of very good football, especially someone as old as me who can remember Lombardi's Packers. There's gonna be some heartache along the way too. The 70s and 80s were lost decades in Packer lore, but we stuck with em - well, most of the time......
 

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2011 season was the beginning of Caper's disaster era. He sucked from the season opener through the end of his career. Ultimately McCarthy and Thompson are responsible for not getting rid of him sooner.
 

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Anyway, back to the present, I like GB's defense. It's taken some time to adjust to Hafley and the 4-3 design, but they are now playing as well as anytime this season. We'll see how that works tonight against a loaded Lions' offense.
Couldn't really stop them tonight, although they had a few good stands.
 

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Couldn't really stop them tonight, although they had a few good stands.
Lions O line is tremendous. And Goff is playing at a high level. We can slow down many offenses. Very hard to stop them. We need at least one more big body LB and another DL. You need to spell some of these guys or you will wear down in the 4th quarter. Even when we were in the right position on the field they just plain blocked us.
 

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