Packers now in the wild card spot lol

[broguy]

If we end up tied with Atlanta at 10-6, don't they edge us out due to our loss to them? Or is there a tie breaker that superseeds that one for seating?

It's because the above scenario would create a three-way tie between GB, ATL, and TB for the two seed. The first step would be to eliminate one of the teams from the same division. TB would win that tiebreaker (division record) and then GB would win the SOV tiebreaker over TB.

 

[Forget Favre]

I will never understand the logistics of how it works for certain teams to just get into the playoffs that relay on the events of a fly sneezing over in Boise Idaho while ol' Cletus of Mobile Alabama takes a leak while whistling Dixie on the third Thurs in December and over in Fargo North Dakota Irv proposes to Vera for a July wedding.

You need a Ouija board, decoder ring, slide rule and protractor to figure out the playoff picture every year.

 

[broguy]

I will never understand the logistics of how it works for certain teams to just get into the playoffs that relay on the events of a fly sneezing over in Boise Idaho while ol' Cletus of Mobile Alabama takes a leak while whistling Dixie on the third Thurs in December and over in Fargo North Dakota Irv proposes to Vera for a July wedding.

You need a Ouija board, decoder ring, slide rule and protractor to figure out the playoff picture every year.

Not trying to be condescending, but it's really not that difficult. There are a set of tiebreakers, and guidelines for applying them, that can be found here: http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures. Most of the time when you see people talking about teams that aren't involved in the tie, it has to do with one of the tied teams' strength of victory or strength of schedule (both of which could potentially be used for tie breaking procedures). For instance, as was noted earlier, the Browns could impact our playoff chances because they play San Diego this weekend, a team that Tampa Bay beat. If San Diego loses to Cleveland, that hurts Tampa Bay's strength of schedule (combined winning percentage of all the teams TB played) and their strength of victory (combined winning percentage of all the teams TB beat).

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Not trying to be condescending, but it's really not that difficult. There are a set of tiebreakers, and guidelines for applying them, that can be found here: http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures. Most of the time when you see people talking about teams that aren't involved in the tie, it has to do with one of the tied teams' strength of victory or strength of schedule (both of which could potentially be used for tie breaking procedures). For instance, as was noted earlier, the Browns could impact our playoff chances because they play San Diego this weekend, a team that Tampa Bay beat. If San Diego loses to Cleveland, that hurts Tampa Bay's strength of schedule (combined winning percentage of all the teams TB played) and their strength of victory (combined winning percentage of all the teams TB beat).

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[sschind]

Packers will beat the Vikes this Sat,
Lions will lose to the Cow Pies, and all the stars will continue to align. We will live in perfect harmony. Just keep thinking about fuzzy kittens..........dewy meadows............unicorns...........

I don't know, I saw a video once of a unicorn kicking the crap out of a fuzzy kitten in a dewy meadow once ... it's not the image I would choose to promote harmony.

 

[Sky King]

Maybe the NFL can get this guy to explain the process:

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[Pokerbrat2000]

Maybe the NFL can get this guy to explain the process:

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I sure hope not, I just got my afternoon nap in, starting at about the 30 second mark of this video.

 

[Sky King]

I sure hope not, I just got my afternoon nap in, starting at about the 30 second mark of this video.

Maybe we can can empathize with rookie defensive players on day-one of Capers' installation of his defense.

 

[rodell330]

#Runthetable and not worry about it would eliminate a lot of confusion as well.

 

[Voltron]

Sorry, but I don`t want to rely on other teams, I want to rely on MY team. If we win the next two games and win the division I`ll be happy, and then if we lose in the playoffs I`ll accept they did their best, despite the blip.

i agree winning the division is the easier way. GB controls their destiny, relying on the wildcard requires too many ifs, if is team loses and this team wins and if this team ties etc.

 

[Packer Brother]

I don't want any part of the Giants. Also, how embarrassing would it be for them to come into Lambeau and beat us a third time in the playoffs?

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

Yeah, and ESPN still hasn't fixed their standings to reflect it.

Right now GB and TB are even dead even on SOV. It would go all the way down to SOS which Green Bay currently wins .510 to .505.

The two game we play are against winning teams and the two they play are tough sub .500 teams. Saints and carolina if i remember right... I dont think they have a chance to beat us by strength of schedule. ??? So we have to lose to get bumped

 

[adambr2]

The two game we play are against winning teams and the two they play are tough sub .500 teams. Saints and carolina if i remember right... I dont think they have a chance to beat us by strength of schedule. ??? So we have to lose to get bumped

They won't pass us on strength of schedule, but it almost certainly wouldn't go past strength of victory which could still go either way.

If we don't lose its moot anyway because we'll win the division at 10-6 if we don't lose.

 

[swhitset]

If we don't lose its moot anyway because we'll win the division at 10-6 if we don't lose.

This

 

[Forget Favre]

Not trying to be condescending, but it's really not that difficult. There are a set of tiebreakers, and guidelines for applying them, that can be found here: http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures. Most of the time when you see people talking about teams that aren't involved in the tie, it has to do with one of the tied teams' strength of victory or strength of schedule (both of which could potentially be used for tie breaking procedures). For instance, as was noted earlier, the Browns could impact our playoff chances because they play San Diego this weekend, a team that Tampa Bay beat. If San Diego loses to Cleveland, that hurts Tampa Bay's strength of schedule (combined winning percentage of all the teams TB played) and their strength of victory (combined winning percentage of all the teams TB beat).

Nice try but I still don't get it.
Just what in the heck do three teams that we didn't even play and two are not even in our division have to do with our getting into the playoffs?
I'll never get it.

Thanx for the laugh though of the Browns beating the Chargers!

 

[Forget Favre]

Maybe the NFL can get this guy to explain the process:

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I sure hope not, I just got my afternoon nap in, starting at about the 30 second mark of this video.

I kept on waiting for the words "Flux capacitor" to be uttered.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

We'll know more after this weekend, but I would think there are scenarios where we could play the Lions on back to back weekends, with either team hosting the playoff game. If I remember correctly, the same thing happened in 1994 when Favre threw the game winning bomb to Sterling Sharpe in the playoff game.

It happened in the 2009 season as well with the Packers beating Arizona 33-7 to close out the regular season but lost the playoff game a week later.

It's because the above scenario would create a three-way tie between GB, ATL, and TB for the two seed. The first step would be to eliminate one of the teams from the same division. TB would win that tiebreaker (division record) and then GB would win the SOV tiebreaker over TB.

The strength of victory tie breaker is impossible to predict and currently tied between the Packers and Buccaneers.

The two game we play are against winning teams and the two they play are tough sub .500 teams. Saints and carolina if i remember right... I dont think they have a chance to beat us by strength of schedule. ??? So we have to lose to get bumped

They won't pass us on strength of schedule, but it almost certainly wouldn't go past strength of victory which could still go either way.

The Buccaneers could still end up with a higher strength of schedule percentage than the Packers as every single game played by this season´s opponents of both teams affect that record.

 

[adambr2]

Good point, I didn't think of that. In any case I doubt it will be of relevance since I believe the tiebreaker has never gone past the SOV since they changed the tiebreakers, I think in the late 90s/early 2000s.

I don't know how many remember this but the year we won the Super Bowl most recently , we edged out Tampa Bay on the SOV tiebreaker. Without that, no Super Bowl , no playoff. So it does happen.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

In any case I doubt it will be of relevance since I believe the tiebreaker has never gone past the SOV since they changed the tiebreakers, I think in the late 90s/early 2000s.

I don't know how many remember this but the year we won the Super Bowl most recently , we edged out Tampa Bay on the SOV tiebreaker. Without that, no Super Bowl , no playoff. So it does happen.

I can confirm that the strength of schedule tie breaker has had not to be used to decide a tie-breaker for either positioning in the playoffs or a playoff spot since at least 2002. The Packers won the strength of victory tie-breaker over the Bucs and the Giants in 2010.

 

[broguy]

The strength of victory tie breaker is impossible to predict and currently tied between the Packers and Buccaneers.

That's not true in regard to my post. In the given scenario (packers win out, bucs win out, falcons split) the Packers would have another win against a 9-7 team at worst and a 7-9 team at worst, while the bucs would add wins against a 6-10 team and a 7-9 team. Those wins, plus the combinations of teams that play each other over the last two weeks would give the the Packers a >99% chance of owning the SOV and/or SOS tiebreakers. You can play around with FiveThirtyEight's playoff tool here: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-nfl-predictions/, if you'd like.


ETA: This isn't relevant because Seattle is not going to lose out.

 

[swhitset]

That's not true in regard to my post. In the given scenario (packers win out, bucs win out, falcons split) the Packers would have another win against a 9-7 team at worst and a 7-9 team at worst, while the bucs would add wins against a 6-10 team and a 7-9 team. Those wins, plus the combinations of teams that play each other over the last two weeks would give the the Packers a >99% chance of owning the SOV and/or SOS tiebreakers. You can play around with FiveThirtyEight's playoff tool here: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-nfl-predictions/, if you'd like.


ETA: This isn't relevant because Seattle is not going to lose out.

This whole post is irrelevant since you began it by saying Packers win out..... if that happens ... They are the Division Winners.... and somebody else is looking for the wild card.

 

[adambr2]

There is also still the possibility, not even that remote, that Tampa Bay wins the division and Atlanta slips to the WC. Tampa trails by 1 game, but if they gain it back in the last 2 weeks (both teams play against Carolina and New Orleans yet with 1 home game left each), Tampa wins their division on tiebreaker. In this scenario we'd likely wind up the 3 seed if we won our last 2.

 

[broguy]

This whole post is irrelevant since you began it by saying Packers win out..... if that happens ... They are the Division Winners.... and somebody else is looking for the wild card.

Actually, you're wrong. This whole chain of comments was in regards to a scenario I (jokingly) brought up about how the Packers could get a 2 seed and a first round bye.

 

[PikeBadger]

I wouldn't worry much about who you play in the playoffs, you're going to have to beat good teams to advance no matter what happens. The whole idea is to be playing well enough that everyone else worries about the matchup.

 

[Sky King]

I'm guessing that a Packers-Cowboys tilt might set all-time TV viewership, not including SBs. Besides, we owe 'em one.