Packers hire Titans' OC Matt LaFleur as their HC

[pacmaniac]

Lafluer jumped from Rams OC to Tenn OC, because he interviewed for the Rams HC spot...and got beat out by Mcvey. I think its pretty good reason to move on, you dont want to see the guy everyday you tried to beat on job interview.

No they both joined the Rams in 2017. If LaFleur had interviewed for HC in 2017, why would he take a demotion to OC? Why would he want to see McVey every day for a whole year before moving on?

 

[rodell330]

Why would we mark your thread? You are rarely right. Still pushing your McDaniels theory to try and save face I see.

Believe what you want, sir. I could care less. Have a nice day

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Glad you have a good sense of humor Rodell.....

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[Stanger37]

True enough.

I don't know if Rodell's information was good or not. This turn of events doesn't really refute what he said fully - his sources were supposedly from McDaniels' side, and that may have been the way things appeared to him. Also, Cleveland apparently started to show interest in him late in the game, and that is supposedly the job McDaniels wants. Green Bay might have liked McDaniels, but perhaps didn't like that they weren't his #1 choice, and didn't want to risk waiting another week or more on him, only to lose him to Cleveland, when they had another guy they liked in LeFleur.

By the way, I watched the sports shows this morning, and Cowherd and Bayless were the two who were crapping on this hire the most. So for those who say those guys are complete idiots, you can take that as a positive sign.

ESPN reports today that McDaniels staying with the Patriots for 2019. Don't know if it is a lack of interest from around the rest of the league, or just knows he has a kush job where he is at. I feel a big reason he was brought back to New England after Indy went after him was because Belichick knows he is out and Kraft is going to give McDaniels the team when that happens. Maybe Belichick doesn't leave football, or even the Patriots organization, but maybe moves into a bigger role for the Patriots and manages McDaniels from afar. He has had some luck with vacancies and elite tier QBs and passed up or didn't get it. And now won't interview for the Browns job. It is interesting, but don't want to make a thread about that.

 

[rodell330]

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For all of you whose got something to say

 

[rodell330]

ESPN reports today that McDaniels staying with the Patriots for 2019. Don't know if it is a lack of interest from around the rest of the league, or just knows he has a kush job where he is at. I feel a big reason he was brought back to New England after Indy went after him was because Belichick knows he is out and Kraft is going to give McDaniels the team when that happens. Maybe Belichick doesn't leave football, or even the Patriots organization, but maybe moves into a bigger role for the Patriots and manages McDaniels from afar. He has had some luck with vacancies and elite tier QBs and passed up or didn't get it. And now won't interview for the Browns job. It is interesting, but don't want to make a thread about that.

Lol I know why he decided to stay with NE but that’s neither here nor there now. Packers did what I thought they’d do.

 

[Half Empty]

I just spent the first 45 minutes of my work day reading the first 9 pages of these posts. Not a lot of grey area, all black and white. good or bad. Reading the majority of these posts, there clearly cannot be ANY possibilities that McDaniels just wasn't a culture fit and that maybe his ideas for the team were bullish. Maybe he is just meant to ride the coattails of great coaches, Saban and Belichick. Maybe his vision isn't all that, we put this guy on a pedestal and if anything, there are more reasons why he WOULDN'T work out as HC than Lafleur currently has. His losing record and shadiness. Maybe Lafleur had a great vision and impressed them and didn't want him interviewing with another team. And I am pretty certain Packer players on defense came out and said that they absolutely love playing for Pettine, so why throw sticks in those spokes after 1 year? The defense kept them in every game this season, even the 2 games they lost by 14 were closer than the final. And they were 3 erroneous calls against Clay from 2 more victories. The defense ain't broke, they're just injured and have no depth. The only fixing is getting rid of Zook and Whitt. If he can come in and connect with all the young WRs (because they're all young aside from the TEs) and help them create separation and route running, that alone would be huge. McDaniels would be coming from a team that is older vets, maybe his connection with the younger guys isn't there and before they were all on the same page, Rodgers is another year or two older. But if I learned anything from the first 9 pages, being optimistic and thinking rationally that it may be ok, is NOT ok.

Haven't drawn a paycheck in a while, but if I can get one like yours, I may go back to 'work'. What is it you do?

 

[Stanger37]

Lol I know why he decided to stay with NE but that’s neither here nor there now. Packers did what I thought they’d do.

Just like you also knew he was the next coach of the Packer's but that's neither here or there now as well.

All of this info has come out in the last 16 hours. Packers going with Lafleur, keeping Pettine, and within the last hour McDaniels coming out and staying in New England. I look at you with a skeptical eye that your friend of a friend of a brother has given you all of this inside info that quickly unless you are a pest, which in that case, perhaps they feed you lies to make you go away.

 

[ShockwaveRider]

If this was early 1959, we'd all just go bowling and wait to see if the new guy was any better than Scooter. No reason to get your blood pressure rising so early in the process.

Winner x 1000

If they had "internet fansites" back in 1959 it would be:

"Who is this Vince Lombardi? One of the Fordham Seven Blocks of Granite? He probably has granite between his ears!!!"

AW HAW!!! AW HAW HAW HAW!!!

DISCLAIMERS: (a) No disrespect intended to our beloved Coach Lombardi. (b) Not claiming Matt Lafleur is the NEXT Vince Lombardi. (c) How about if we agree to give the guy a CHANCE before we start hatin' on him?

 

[Stanger37]

Haven't drawn a paycheck in a while, but if I can get one like yours, I may go back to 'work'. What is it you do?

LOL! Live in Chicago as a infrastructure/roadway manager. Work is on the slow side this time of year.

 

[HardRightEdge]

I dont think 2 years for 2 teams constitutes much experience as a coordinator.

I consider 11 jobs in 16 years as not being in a position for very long. Whether you are promoted or not, it seems you would want to see something through once you start it.

Like I said, I don't know if he'll be any good, but job hopping is the least of my concerns. From the standpoint of the football community at large, he was on a fast track. Evidently, the series of teams that kept giving him advancements, now including the Packers, do not agree with your assessment.

I don't think Sean McVay finished what he started when he jumped to the Rams HC job at age 30 from the Redskins in 2017 after 3 years as the Skins OC (4-12, 9-7, 8-7-1).

I suppose you might have had a problem were it Anthony Lynn last year, an older guy but one who got a late starting coaching because he played in the league for several years:

• Denver Broncos (2000–2002)
  Special teams assistant
• Jacksonville Jaguars (2003–2004)
  Running backs coach
• Dallas Cowboys (2005–2006)
  Running backs coach
• Cleveland Browns (2007–2008)
  Running backs coach
• New York Jets (2009–2014)
  Running backs coach
• New York Jets (2013-2014)
  Assistant Head Coach
• Buffalo Bills (2015–2016)
  Assistant Head Coach & Running backs coach
• Buffalo Bills (2016)
  Interim head coach & offensive coordinator
• Los Angeles Chargers (2017–present)
  Head coach

I think those guys have done pretty well so far.

 

[rodell330]

Just like you also knew he was the next coach of the Packer's but that's neither here or there now as well.

All of this info has come out in the last 16 hours. Packers going with Lafleur, keeping Pettine, and within the last hour McDaniels coming out and staying in New England. I look at you with a skeptical eye that your friend of a friend of a brother has given you all of this inside info that quickly unless you are a pest, which in that case, perhaps they feed you lies to make you go away.

Well you can figure that out for yourself can’t you? Maybe you can’t who knows. But everything I said prior to this was all FACTS.

The Packers first choice was McDaniels.
McDaniels first choice was the Packers.
The Packers would want to retain certain coaches from the previous staff.
McDaniels was NOT interested in any other opening not named Green Bay.
The Browns nor McDaniels were ever really in communication for that job opening.
If McDaniels didn’t get the job it would be because he and the Packers couldn’t come to an agreement...rather it was money, coaching staff, personnel decisions?? Or all three??? I’m not sure but I’ll find out trust me. ILL stand by my previous statement that Lafleur was NOT the first choice.


All those things are true.

 

[HardRightEdge]

No they both joined the Rams in 2017. If LaFleur had interviewed for HC in 2017, why would he take a demotion to OC? Why would he want to see McVey every day for a whole year before moving on?

To repeat, LaFleur jumped to Tenn because it was an advancement to play caller which he was not in LA.

 

[HardRightEdge]

If McDaniels didn’t get the job it would be because he and the Packers couldn’t come to an agreement...rather it was money, coaching staff, personnel decisions?? Or all three??? I’m not sure but I’ll find out trust me. ILL stand by my previous statement that Lafleur was NOT the first choice.

All those things are true.

I would not assume all those things are "true" but I do find them quite plausible.

 

[Mondio]

He may have been their first choice heading in, and then found out he wasn't the right choice and went somewhere else. Doesn't matter at this point. At least from what I can tell Lafleur seems to have qualities I'd like in a HC. I'm excited to see how the staff is filled out.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I can't help but think that in the back of McDaniels mind is that Kraft has in some way indicated that when BB hangs it up, he is the next man up, as long as he stays put. Maybe he doesn't fully believe this or he just wants everyone in the Patriots organization to know that other teams still want him. Maybe Murphy and Gute liked McDaniels but knew he was still on the fence or needed to think about it until the Patriots were eliminated. Either not liking that vibe and/or not wanting to loose LaFleur, they decided it wasn't worth waiting for a guy that isn't fully committed to leaving the Patriots organization.

 

[Ogsponge]

I have no problem with the hire, that said I personally believe what matters most is whether or not he can connect with Rodgers and the 2 of them can be on the same page.

If you have Rodgers constantly changing plays in the huddle as he was this year, the season will be a failure as it was this year.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I have no problem with the hire, that said I personally believe what matters most is whether or not he can connect with Rodgers and the 2 of them can be on the same page.

If you have Rodgers constantly changing plays in the huddle as he was this year, the season will be a failure as it was this year.

I can't help but think that this hire was directly related to Aaron Rodgers and the Packers knowing that for this to work, they had to find a HC who could best work with AR. Personally, I would have rather have seen that come in the form of the next OC, but oh well, if MLF is the best guy for the job, so be it, but that still leaves the need to find an OC and QB coach, who also have the ability to work well with #12. That seems to be a lot of coaching, for a guy who appears to not like being coached?

 

[sschind]

Matt LeFleur hasn't won a single game since he was rumored to be hired as the head coach. Not one!

I want him fired now!!!! Assuming he's actually hired first.

Its been more than a day since you posted this and he STILL hasn't won a game.

 

[sschind]

It’s not that serious dude. i really could care less. We will be talking about the draft in a few weeks. Murphy wanted a puppet, so that’s who they hired.

So much for reserving judgement. Of course you couldn't even manage that in the post where you said you would reserve judgement so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Its been more than a day since you posted this and he STILL hasn't won a game.

I can sense it, I know you are asking for it....so here goes...

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[sschind]

I like the Packers hiring of LaFleur as he's a younger coach who has had success as an offensive coach in most of his jobs. In my opinion it's absolutely mind-boggling how many posters around here already criticize the move without him having even given a press conference.

I advice you to stay calm and wait for him to finalize the coaching staff before overreacting to reports which assistants might be retained.

In addition it might be smart to wait at least a couple of regular season games to analyze his potential as a head coach in the NFL.

With him having been an offensive assistant at Saginaw Valley State back in the days it's all but guaranteed Jeff Janis will be brought back to Green Bay as well

Well, after reading that you guarantee Pettine will be retained it's all but guaranteed that LaFleur will hire his own defensive coordinator to replace him.

They would have done the same with Lombardi if this forum was around in the late 50s.

Someone send the paramedics around to see if Poker is OK.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

With him having been an offensive assistant at Saginaw Valley State back in the days it's all but guaranteed Jeff Janis will be brought back to Green Bay as well

Someone send the paramedics around to see if Poker is OK.

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[sschind]

LOL! Live in Chicago as a infrastructure/roadway manager. Work is on the slow side this time of year.

So you are the one putting in all the new damn tollways.

Oh, and there is a hell of a pothole on the corner of Wacker and Cicero. How about you grab a shovel, if you can find one that is not being leaned on, and a bag of Quikrete and do your job and leave the forums for your lunch break.

City workers ... sheesh!!!

 

[swhitset]

Just like you also knew he was the next coach of the Packer's but that's neither here or there now as well.

All of this info has come out in the last 16 hours. Packers going with Lafleur, keeping Pettine, and within the last hour McDaniels coming out and staying in New England. I look at you with a skeptical eye that your friend of a friend of a brother has given you all of this inside info that quickly unless you are a pest, which in that case, perhaps they feed you lies to make you go away.

Frankly, while I rarely appreciate Rodell’s negative attitude around here, I really don’t see why so many are so quick to discount his account of what was going on. By his own admission, he only had the McDaniels’side of the story. Why does anyone here believe that even Josh himself knew for sure what the Packers were going to do? I’m assuming they asked him a bunch of questions and reacted a certain way to each of his answers. His interpretation of how they were leaning was not necessarily correct. I know that when I interview people, I will ask them questions to judge their reactions. I most definitely do not immediately tell them if I don’t like one of their answers etc... Mcdaniels is obviously a very confident individual and most likely assumed he was in a better position than he was.