Packers 1st round selection, #12 overall: Rashan Gary, DE

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I'm bullish on Keke even though I could be wrong, he looks like he could be that 280-290 pound interior pass rush specialist. Kind of what Dotson was for us way back when.

I actually like Preston as a player, my preference for replacing most of his snaps with Gary is merely because I like the matchup problems inherent in having Z and Gary on the field at the same time. I really like that we have two ends who can just physically crush an OT with direct routes at the quarterback.
 

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Keke is an awesome guy to assist Clark on passing downs, we need a 2021 Snacks to help on rushing sets though as he doesn't excel there.

As for Preston, I'd still argue his play is not bad by any means and I don't want to see him go, but fiscally and replaceability, it is pure logic he has to go.
 
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Obviously a lot of factors involved, but interesting nevertheless.
 

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Phenomenal this game. He really is coming into his own. I'm really looking forward to when Z Smith also back and our D should get to next level!
If both Smiths get healthy, I love our LB group. 3 Smiths, Gary, Mercilus, Campbell, Barnes. I can't remember that much talent and/or depth.
 

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Big if....but if we can get Jaire and Z back in the fold....lawdhamercy.
I think Jaire makes it back at some point and probably Z too. We just need to hope no more major injuries...on either side of the ball. Maybe we will get luck and not only that happens, but we find another castoff starter for the DL.
 

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The team has reported that Jaire is progressing nicely with his recovery, so it looks like he should be able to make a return. Hopefully we have him back within the next month and he is full go for the rest of the season.
 

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Phenomenal this game. He really is coming into his own. I'm really looking forward to when Z Smith also back and our D should get to next level!

I didnt catch a whole lot of the earlier games, but it seemed like we had him rushing head up much more against Washington.
 

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I didnt catch a whole lot of the earlier games, but it seemed like we had him rushing head up much more against Washington.
Yeah, I thought I saw that too. Gary was deliberately rushing on more snaps than in the past. No numbers to support it, just an observation. That's why he was drafted, I think. Well, maybe he needed the first few years to adjust to the NFL. Not everyone makes the jump automatically, and really these are kids who were recently teenagers. Some need to be handled carefully unless they blow their chance.
 

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Yeah, I thought I saw that too. Gary was deliberately rushing on more snaps than in the past. No numbers to support it, just an observation. That's why he was drafted, I think. Well, maybe he needed the first few years to adjust to the NFL. Not everyone makes the jump automatically, and really these are kids who were recently teenagers. Some need to be handled carefully unless they blow their chance.

I mean from what I saw he looked better out of the 2 point as opposed to out of the 3 point. Perhaps he's still not a great technique guy and that little bit of misdirection playing heads up really helps him play up his strength speed combination.
 

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I mean from what I saw he looked better out of the 2 point as opposed to out of the 3 point. Perhaps he's still not a great technique guy and that little bit of misdirection playing heads up really helps him play up his strength speed combination.
I think the direction the league is taking is for all defensive linemen to play standing up, no more 3 pt. That begs the question of how the OL plays. With the exception of the C, who has to be in 3 pt. If the league really wants to reduce CTE, they'll find a way to make this work.

But back to Gary, yeah he plays much better standing up. He's actually a lot leaner now than I remember when he came in. I hope Z returns because Gary could learn a lot from that guy on how to play standing up.
 
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I think Jaire makes it back at some point and probably Z too. We just need to hope no more major injuries...on either side of the ball. Maybe we will get luck and not only that happens, but we find another castoff starter for the DL.
I’d love to find the iDL version of Mercilus. Even possibly work a deal before trade deadline.
 
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Maybe we will get luck and not only that happens, but we find another castoff starter for the DL.

While I'm in favor of the Packers adding another veteran on the defensive line both Lowry and Keke have played better lately, possibly reducing the need to get an upgrade there.
 

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While I'm in favor of the Packers adding another veteran on the defensive line both Lowry and Keke have played better lately, possibly reducing the need to get an upgrade there.
Kind of agree but it is probably one of two positions (the other being CB) that I'd continue looking for value.
 

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While I'm in favor of the Packers adding another veteran on the defensive line both Lowry and Keke have played better lately, possibly reducing the need to get an upgrade there.

Kind of agree but it is probably one of two positions (the other being CB) that I'd continue looking for value.
Agreed on Lowery and Keke, as well as Kenny Clark really stepping it up (IMO). However, beyond those 3 guys, the cupboard is pretty bare of immediate talent. I like Slayton, but he needs another year. We have seen how injuries have impacted CB and both ILB and OLB, so if a decent vet castoff D Lineman happens to fall into our lap, I wouldn't mind.
 

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Kind of agree but it is probably one of two positions (the other being CB) that I'd continue looking for value.
Maybe, but at least Douglas looks like the real deal. He's playing tight so far. Not sure how we got him but unless I'm missing something; some other team(s) made a mistake.
 

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Maybe, but at least Douglas looks like the real deal. He's playing tight so far. Not sure how we got him but unless I'm missing something; some other team(s) made a mistake.
Douglas has been around since 2017, when he was a 3rd round pick of the Eagles. He played quite a bit his first 4 years (Eagles and Panthers) and has a Super Bowl ring (Eagles).

This past year has been quite the trip for him....not resigned by the Panthers, the Raiders signed him in April. Then cut in August and the Texans pick him up for a week and cut him. Then the Cardinals signed him and put him on their PS. The Packers grabbed him off of the Arizona PS on Oct. 6th.

So he has been on a lot (6) teams and really has quite a bit of experience. I think it was a solid move on Gute's part. Might pay dividends against Arizona on Thursday night, due to his knowledge of their receivers.
 

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Douglas has been around since 2017, when he was a 3rd round pick of the Eagles. He played quite a bit his first 4 years (Eagles and Panthers) and has a Super Bowl ring (Eagles).

This past year has been quite the trip for him....not resigned by the Panthers, the Raiders signed him in April. Then cut in August and the Texans pick him up for a week and cut him. Then the Cardinals signed him and put him on their PS. The Packers grabbed him off of the Arizona PS on Oct. 6th.

So he has been on a lot (6) teams and really has quite a bit of experience. I think it was a solid move on Gute's part. Might pay dividends against Arizona on Thursday night, due to his knowledge of their receivers.
Nice to know our staff is doing their job looking over the PS of other teams. If he continues this play, I guess we won't be able to keep him. Actually, I am optimistic that we will be able to field a good team for the foreseeable future. Just please, don't ask me how.
 

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Nice to know our staff is doing their job looking over the PS of other teams. If he continues this play, I guess we won't be able to keep him. Actually, I am optimistic that we will be able to field a good team for the foreseeable future. Just please, don't ask me how.
Well with King coming back and hopefully Alexander at some point, Douglas's playing time might get reduced substantially. Given how many teams passed on him this past year, maybe he likes his spot in GB for 2022. I really don't see King being back, unless its league min. and the Packers have to make a decision on Sullivan, who also has been playing well as of late and is on a 1 year $2.133 M deal.

Packers are paying Douglas $770K
 

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Well with King coming back and hopefully Alexander at some point, Douglas's playing time might get reduced substantially. Given how many teams passed on him this past year, maybe he likes his spot in GB for 2022. I really don't see King being back, unless its league min. and the Packers have to make a decision on Sullivan, who also has been playing well as of late and is on a 1 year $2.133 M deal.

Packers are paying Douglas $770K
If Douglas keeps playing well; they might want to keep him on the field. It should always be best player. Just isn't always. But Sullivan seems to be stepping it up also.
 

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Nice to know our staff is doing their job looking over the PS of other teams. If he continues this play, I guess we won't be able to keep him. Actually, I am optimistic that we will be able to field a good team for the foreseeable future. Just please, don't ask me how.
I think a lot of fans feel the same way. It's hard not to be optimistic about a 6-1 team. Then again, it's easy to get pessimistic with injuries to such key players (Alexander, Bakh, MVS, Z, and now Adams/Covid). But they keep finding ways to win. Now with Adams likely out, maybe luck has run out against the Cardinals. Even if that happens, I'm still more optimistic about this team than I've been in years. To paraphrase you, don't ask me why.
 

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