Packers 1st round selection, #12 overall: Rashan Gary, DE

[PikeBadger]

I just want to apologize for doubting gary. He is a force.

Remember this on the last weekend of April.

 

[Packer Fan in SD]

Does anyone know where to order a name plater for the back of a jersey? I would be happy to just replace Matthews with Gary.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Does anyone know where to order a name plater for the back of a jersey? I would be happy to just replace Matthews with Gary.

Smart idea, but I am sure those who profit from the sales of Jerseys have nixed the idea of selling them a long time ago.

Do you have a roll of duct tape?

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[Packer Fan in SD]

Smart idea, but I am sure those who profit from the sales of Jerseys have nixed the idea of selling them a long time ago.

Do you have a roll of duct tape?

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Alright, maybe you missed the part in my post about drinking. You almost made me need a new monitor. Thanks for a great laugh.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Alright, maybe you missed the part in my post about drinking. You almost made me need a new monitor. Thanks for a great laugh.

Could be worse than on a Jersey! This guys "Plan B" didn't even work out!

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[Packer Fan in SD]

It is so good to be a Packer fan.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

It is so good to be a Packer fan.

LOL...just noticed your signature line. I guess you can relate to the Detroit fan tattoo a bit

 

[sschind]

LOL...just noticed your signature line. I guess you can relate to the Detroit fan tattoo a bit

I had to turn on the signatures just to see what you were talking about. That and I forgot about your bet with Captain. How long does he have to keep that up there?

 

[Dantés]

Anyone who has followed the draft for any length of time knows a few things.

1) There will be picks you love that totally flame out.

2) There will be picks you hate that hit.

This doesn't mean we shouldn't have opinions on picks, or that we shouldn't express them.

But it should teach us that people don't need to get so up in their feelings and get so self-assured.

Even now, with Gary coming on, it would be dumb if the bigger fans of the pick declared him a future all-pro. And yet the people who didn't like the selection did the converse of that when he was drafted.

 

[longtimefan]

I had to turn on the signatures just to see what you were talking about. That and I forgot about your bet with Captain. How long does he have to keep that up there?

I dont see any sigs

 

[sschind]

I dont see any sigs

Do you have them turned off. I did when signature banners got so big they started taking up more space than the posts.

 

[longtimefan]

Do you have them turned off. I did when signature banners got so big they started taking up more space than the posts.

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[Pokerbrat2000]

I had to turn on the signatures just to see what you were talking about. That and I forgot about your bet with Captain. How long does he have to keep that up there?

We never determined a time frame, but I would be fine with and think until Crosby is no longer a Packer would be appropriate and fair.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I had to turn on the signatures just to see what you were talking about. That and I forgot about your bet with Captain. How long does he have to keep that up there?

We never determined a time frame, but I would be fine with and think until Crosby is no longer a Packer would be appropriate and fair.

I would be fine with keeping the signature until Crosby misses another field goal, which might not happen again as long as he's a Packer anyway

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I would be fine with keeping the signature until Crosby misses another field goal, which might not happen again as long as he's a Packer anyway

I say we just keep doubling down. Every year you get to pick your UDFA kicker and if he out performs Crosby, you can remove your signature line and instruct me on mine. We could always take a vote of the forum members and see how they feel.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I say we just keep doubling down. Every year you get to pick your UDFA kicker and if he out performs Crosby, you can remove your signature line and instruct me on mine. We could always take a vote of the forum members and see how they feel.

I like the idea.

 

[easyk83]

I'm excited about Gary's potential, but i'd like to see him take another step forward and turn into a 10+ sack a year player who consistently sets a good edge against the run before making any long term pronouncements on him.

I do love the guys potential though, he has the physical tools to be an all pro. His mental aptitude for the position is still an open question.

 

[tynimiller]

I'm excited about Gary's potential, but i'd like to see him take another step forward and turn into a 10+ sack a year player who consistently sets a good edge against the run before making any long term pronouncements on him.

I do love the guys potential though, he has the physical tools to be an all pro. His mental aptitude for the position is still an open question.

Expecting vastly too much out of a guy not getting the snaps to do so:

Z: 860 snaps or 83.9% of the regular seasons snaps
Preston: 817 snaps or 79.7%
Gary: 455 snaps or 44.4%

 

[easyk83]

Expecting vastly too much out of a guy not getting the snaps to do so:

Z: 860 snaps or 83.9% of the regular seasons snaps
Preston: 817 snaps or 79.7%
Gary: 455 snaps or 44.4%

Well right but if he's only a part time player its probably a good idea not to crown him anything at this point.

 

[tynimiller]

Since week 16, Gary has been best.

https://dairylandexpress.com/2021/0...ary-pffs-top-rated-edge-rusher-since-week-16/

 

[easyk83]

Since week 16, Gary has been best.

https://dairylandexpress.com/2021/0...ary-pffs-top-rated-edge-rusher-since-week-16/

Which I find easy to believe, yes the defense looks markedly better with him and Z on the field than it does when he's on the bench and Preston is on the field. I get that Preston does some things better, but sometimes you cant fully qualify the effect that havoc has on an offense.

 

[tynimiller]

Which I find easy to believe, yes the defense looks markedly better with him and Z on the field than it does when he's on the bench and Preston is on the field. I get that Preston does some things better, but sometimes you cant fully qualify the effect that havoc has on an offense.

Z and Gary can roam around better than Preston...but Lord have mercy watch out if all three of them have a game those three are capable of at any moment....there isn't a line that could stop them piling up pressures and sacks.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Z and Gary can roam around better than Preston...but Lord have mercy watch out if all three of them have a game those three are capable of at any moment....there isn't a line that could stop them piling up pressures and sacks.

I see why people are eagerly saying "Cut Preston, we need the cap", but as you said, the 3 of them, are really pretty formidable. I also think that we have been very lucky on the injury front when it comes to the OLB position the last 2 years. Is Preston worth the money he is due? No, but my ideal scenario is he agrees to a reduced contract. Both he and Z- Dog are only 28, imagine having them both along with Gary as he develops even more for the next several years.

 

[tynimiller]

I see why people are eagerly saying "Cut Preston, we need the cap", but as you said, the 3 of them, are really pretty formidable. I also think that we have been very lucky on the injury front when it comes to the OLB position the last 2 years. Is Preston worth the money he is due? No, but my ideal scenario is he agrees to a reduced contract. Both he and Z- Dog are only 28, imagine having them both along with Gary as he develops even more for the next several years.

Honestly I think Gute and Co. knew all along the likelihood of both guys playing to their contract level was small - surprisingly though they've together gotten about as good as one could realistically hope. I think the plan was one of them was getting cut or traded prior to 2021 season all along.

 

[easyk83]

Z and Gary can roam around better than Preston...but Lord have mercy watch out if all three of them have a game those three are capable of at any moment....there isn't a line that could stop them piling up pressures and sacks.

Preston is a very solid all around OLB but as a pass rusher he's more of a clean up what Z and Clark create, or produce off a free runner/mismatch, than make his own pass rushes happen. You wont see Preston flat out beat an OT often. Gary on the other hand, well physically he reminds me of a young DeMarcus Ware. In his sacks he just wrecks the OT in front of him.

My preferred pass rush set, right now, would probably be Z, Clark Keke and Gary.