Penalty kicks! Of course, the answer was always right there! Just make it a "Kick 'Till You Miss" rule - start at the 25 yard line and move out 5 yards if each team makes their kick. Eventually one team makes it and one misses. Game over! Something like that, needs a little work.
Yeah I'm not in favor of regulating the game to death. But it does seem fair that each team gets a possession in OT. Sometimes these rules are ridiculous, like the review of PI a few years ago. This one isn't based at all on referee calls or challenges. I know everything in life isn't fair, but this change seems warranted.
Just so you don't work too ******* revising this, I doubt the NFL will want to penalize a team for having a bad or injured FG kicker, by putting the outcome of a game solely on the foot of 1 out of 53 players. Might as well put a trash can in the endzone and let the QB's decide the game in the same way. First QB to miss the can loses. At least when a team wins with a FG in OT now, it was because the team got them into position to do so and the other 1o guys on the FG unit did their job.
The thing is, I don't think the rule change detracts from the game, unlike the PI review challenge from a few years back. To me, this makes sense. I agree the outcome of the coin flip isn't strongly correlated with who wins, but whoever wins gets an advantage, however small. It's an easy fix to me. I'd be interested to see what the players think.
I was kidding Poker. I'm pretty sure lambeau was too. I thought penalty kicks was a hilarious idea. But having the QBs throw into a garbage can in the end zone from the 50 YL? Hmmm, that might work! (Yes, I'm kidding about that too.)
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I have read a lot of alternative ways to resolve a tied game and a FG shoot off has been one of them. I think the best one that I have read was, the heaviest guy from each team, have a 100 yard sprint off. I think if they were blindfolded, it would make it much more fun to watch.
Now this is very well stated. I think a lot of fans have been unhappy with OT rules for years, especially "sudden death". And you're right about technology. And like all technology, it works well when it addresses a need. The review of pass interference is a good example. It may have addressed a need for fans (although probably not in the end), but the referees certainly didn't want it. And when you're asking the person who made the call to review it, along with 50 others, it's painful and slows down the game and doesn't add much. The refs get the majority of their calls right, a minor miracle.
Or to even things out, have 5 races. heaviest, lightest, Head coaches, GM's and the ultimate tie breaker...mascots run off. I like the 5th one, since it would require ALL teams to have an official mascot and this is really what has been lacking in the NFL. Even Delta State in Grand Prairie, Texas has a mascot, The Fighting Ocra!Thanks Poker. I've fallen for jokes too. I should use that emoji.
At least we're having fun with this and the ideas keep getting better, like the big man 100 yard blindfold dash. Very good!
I mean if the Brewers can have sausage races, which are hugely popular with the fans, why not the NFL!Or to even things out, have 5 races. heaviest, lightest, Head coaches, GM's and the ultimate tie breaker...mascots run off. I like the 5th one, since it would require ALL teams to have an official mascot and this is really what has been lacking in the NFL. Even Delta State in Grand Prairie, Texas has a mascot, The Fighting Ocra!
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I have read a lot of alternative ways to resolve a tied game and a FG shoot off has been one of them. I think the best one that I have read was, the heaviest guy from each team, have a 100 yard sprint off. I think if they were blindfolded, it would make it much more fun to watch.
You raise an excellent point:
People have been complaining about the OT rules since they were implemented. Its hardly a Bills vs KC thing.
From what I have read, the reason that the NFL changed the rules on a first series FG winning an OT game is that kickers had progressed, as well as indoor stadiums and artificial turf, etc. Back in the day, kickers were not nearly as accurate as they would eventually become.
and they'll complain about this one too the first time the game is tied after 2 possessions and because of some fluke play the other team just kicks a FG to win having done nothing to earn and the 2nd team doesn't get a 2nd possession to make it "fair"
LOL...so your fear of that happening, is what motivates your stance on don't change a thing? You don't trust the process or believe the owners will do the right thing?
I would guess that the #1 goal of owners is money. How do you maximize that? You pacify your buyers of course. I don's see them sitting around saying "lets make this a more fair game, despite doing so will lose us more fans, than if we left it alone." The NFL is very much a reactionary business and in many cases, very slow to react. However, since they are a monopoly, they have a lot of leeway of making a ton of mistakes and still profit.
There's just no easy answer here. Here's an extreme example, but it could happen. Team A wins the toss, takes the ball and scores a TD and makes either a one pt or 2 pt conversion. Team B gets the ball and does exactly what Team A just did. Score tied. Team A gets the ball back, moves into FG territory, kicks a FG and wins the game. NOT FAIR! Team A had the ball twice to once for Team A.
See, I would disagree. Since both teams had at least 1 shot with the ball. Doesn't matter that they did identical things with each teams possession. Number of possessions rarely work out to even in a game, so no need to make sure that happens in OT. Now when one team has the ball once and the other team zero times, that would be considered an unfair advantage.
Good point Poker, I hadn't looked at it that way. The important point is that each team gets the ball in OT at least once. As your example illustrates, beyond that how many times a team gets the ball doesn't matter - it's what each team does when they have the ball that matters.
Pretty much, but for now I think it is a win just to have them change it for playoff games. Eventually, if that is seen to be a more favorable way to do it, regular season games will follow that format. Unless of course next year, if in the final game of the season, a team loses the OT coin toss and loses the game on an opening drive TD. In losing that game, said team misses out on the playoffs. Then that might press them into changing it faster.
