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This is just very interesting... Not sure if it sign of desperation to get something going? Or simply he was doing a poor job and that was a cause of much more of the problems then we know.
 

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I'm intersted to see how the defense / special teams performs with MM more focused on the offense.
 

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If two people , Clements and Bennent, cannot make the Packers offense run with a QB who will more than likely end up in the HOF then why are they on the staff in the first place?
 

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This is a great move. Even if it makes a difference on one or two plays a game, that is huge in the NFL. I like the change.

Ps- hi forum, I'm new here - from southern Cali!
 
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Anyone wanna knock MM's playcalling now? Or say it doesn't make a difference?

I'm pretty sure what I'm seeing out there right now is exactly an improvement on this offense with MM calling plays.
 

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Anyone wanna knock MM's playcalling now? Or say it doesn't make a difference?

I'm pretty sure what I'm seeing out there right now is exactly an improvement on this offense with MM calling plays.

Think it also has to do with blocking, catching, running... a stingy D. The offense does look better but I am not sold its completely on the playcalling.
 
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While it hasn't been perfect, I'd still argue that even on series like our opening drive where we came up empty at the goal line, there was still this kind of crisp execution on the offense that had not been there much of the year or at least not since about the KC or opening Chicago game.

We have the same WRs we've had all year, same OL, same just about everything, but there's a few things I'm seeing. Rodgers's players seem to be up at the line not confused about what's going to be called, people seem to know where they're supposed to be.

The players on their own accord may be playing with a bit extra than what they gave the last 2 weeks, but the scheme and system didn't change, play caller did. And I don't buy that Dallas just all the sudden turned bad on D or that they haven't tried the same man to man press coverage we've seen since Denver. I think it's just a fact that having the same playbook as one man doesn't make you as good a playcaller as he is, and that the best play caller for MM's playbook, is MM himself. The results on the field speak for themselves, hence why the O today looks more 2014 Packers than 2015 Packers.
 
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What a difference

Very seriously yes. And let me just say, there are several things to note:

Was the O perfect today? No, obviously we should have come away with a TD on the opening drive, there were a few 3 and outs, some head scratchers in the 3rd quarter, and obviously Rodgers's broken play scramble in the 4th ultimately is what got us the final blows.

But think about something else. Throw out the offense's numbers for now, obviously the big story is what happened with Lacy and the running game. But for now I'm not looking at the offense's numbers as the telling story.

I'm looking more at the fact that even despite any struggles they might have had, there just seemed to be this cohesion, fluidity, and continuity that returned to the offense that really didn't seem to be there apart from maybe week 3 or a little before that. Rodgers wasn't perfect but he seemed to be more decisive, not as confused, it seemed like in this game his receivers for the most part were where he expected them to be, there didn't seem to be as much confusion with the O-line, and whatever they did, somehow they got Randall Cobb and even James Jones to a certain degree, looking like the Randall Cobb we all know. Now I didn't always see the Dallas D, maybe they backed off and didn't play nearly as much cover 0 as some others have, but at the same time it seemed like MM was calling stuff or doing stuff that got them open.

Now there could be multiple things going on. Maybe there was a little more individual effort today than usual, maybe Richard Rodgers's miracle catch did light a little bit of a fire under Cobb, Lacy, or even Adams a little, or even the O-line. Maybe they saw Dallas play Monday and did take them a bit more seriously.

But I gotta think when you see almost a whole new different-looking offense playing a pretty good defense, and the only thing that changed was the play caller? It obviously did something.
 

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There's no doubt that the execution was much better today than it has been recently. That's a bigger factor in the better game than MM calling the plays again.
 

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After just one game I'm not 100% ready to declare that something a lot of us have been calling for worked, but I saw a different offense out on the field today. It seemed to have more rhythm and more confidence. Drives weren't stalled due to a penalty or one missed play. Were they perfect? No. But that offense today looked a lot better then the one that was barely on life support for most of the last 2 months. Did they change the playbook? Of course not. But for those who just said it was semantics whether it was TC or MM calling them, I think just got a good look at the importance of the right person calling the plays at the moments he feels a particular play will work.

Can only see this move having an upside for the rest of the season and today was a very good start to it! Still plenty of work ahead, but this was progress on offense for a change!
 
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After just one game I'm not 100% ready to declare that something a lot of us have been calling for worked, but I saw a different offense out on the field today. It seemed to have more rhythm and more confidence. Drives weren't stalled due to a penalty or one missed play. Were they perfect? No. But that offense today looked a lot better then the one that was barely on life support for most of the last 2 months. Did they change the playbook? Of course not. But for those who just said it was semantics whether it was TC or MM calling them, I think just got a good look at the importance of the right person calling the plays at the moments he feels a particular play will work.

Can only see this move having an upside for the rest of the season and today was a very good start to it!
They did what we've been calling for this entire time, screens and shorter/quicker pass plays. The offense seemed to stall when they tried going back to primarily those iso spread routes that have made our receivers disappear in man coverage recently, but going back to the running game and screens opened things up again.
 
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There's no doubt that the execution was much better today than it has been recently. That's a bigger factor in the better game than MM calling the plays again.

But I think you oughtta look at the question as to why that is. And to me, this is not a matter of love MM, bash Tom Clements. It's just about the setup as a whole. Obviously MM figured that by taking a back seat, focusing more of his time and energy on the other sides of the ball that he'd have capable enough hands running it and left it up to those guys. But it did not work.

Now MM and Aaron Rodgers love those coaches, and attempted patience with them. But the reality is that you can't depend on hail mary fortune plays to win all your games. MM realized this, so he grabbed the monster by the horns and reeled it in getting it under control.

The fact is Rodgers and the players have a comfort zone with MM calling plays. So why is our execution better? Why were our receivers getting open today and not before? Did we upgrade our receivers? No. Did we upgrade our OL? No. MM just went and got rid of the goofy setup and told them he was going to run it the way it was supposed to be run.

All that to say, it worked, so keep MM on as playcaller and do it all the way to the Superbowl.
 

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Keep in mind, any of us could stand on the sidelines with MM's playbook and call plays........but to be successful you need to know which play to call, in which situation, against what Defense, etc. etc. etc. So there can be a big difference in results between TC and MM calling plays, even if they are both using the same playbook. This was only 1 game, but things are looking brighter on offense from this fans perspective and if the players feel that way too, I only see this as a positive building block moving forward.
 

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The biggest difference I saw was Dallas was not playing tight man coverage anywhere close to the amount the other teams in the past month or two. We might have seen more zone yesterday than all the other games combined.

Regardless, hopefully it boosts the confidence of the offense going forward.
 

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