MM and AR Rift

[Wi. Mike now in Florida]

I know there's always some dirt sport writers like to write about, but is this rift between
Mike McCarthy and Aron Rodgers important to you?

Patriots go though it on a weekly basis.
The game of football gets heated some times and players coaches say and act in a negative way
when the camera's are rolling, especially when D or O line plays poorly.

Your Thoughts!

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I know there's always some dirt sport writers like to write about, but is this rift between
Mike McCarthy and Aron Rodgers important to you?

Patriots go though it on a weekly basis.
The game of football gets heated some times and players coaches say and act in a negative way
when the camera's are rolling, especially when D or O line plays poorly.

I was surprised that Rodgers criticized the game plan during his press conference. There have been several occasions in which there seemed to be a rift between the quarterback and the head coach with them being able to work it out. Hopefull that will be the case once again.

 

[rodell330]

Lol you beat me to it!!! I love Aaron Rodgers presser! He knows just like any REAL football person knows...and that’s the offensive scheme and game plan sucked! You guys get upset with me because I criticize MM ALL the time because of his playcalling and scheme! But I’m not looking at the game just as a fan! As a football person and coach I analyze the game from that point of view. He said exactly what I said before his presser...and that is the Packers should’ve put 40 plus points up on Buffalo! Against someone like the Patriots or Rams the Packers probably lose this game because they are kick FGs and stalling out on drives wayyy to often. Packers need younger more innovative guys calling the offense instead of MM living off past glory of 6-7 yrs ago calling the same plays.

 

[mongoosev]

I knew something was off with rod. could have been the feud with mm.

 

[Snoops]

I think Aaron Rodgers should just call the plays

Like would ANYONE be mad?

 

[Ceodore]

MM may be partially to blame but AR didn't play very well either and it didn't sound like he took any of the blame personally in his presser. So i'm not trying to hear his gripes when it comes to everyone else.

 

[PackAttack12]

The Detroit Lions are now officially on high alert. The man's coming.

 

[Mondio]

Cue up all the same **** from 3 years ago. Old news. Feelings are the same now as then. They need to play better. Period. End of story. Rodgers included. Quit missing receivers, quit with off passes, quit dropping it, and most of all don't turn it over. Problems solved.

 

[GleefulGary]

There were open receivers all over, Rodgers just missed. He holds onto the ball too long and refuses to take the easy passes.

That doesn’t mean MM is perfect. He’s not. I’d prefer a different offense, and I hate how he doesn’t use Aaron Jones more.

Tbh, Rodgers is acting like a little *****. He’ll get over it. He needs to play better.

 

[PackAttack12]

Cue up all the same **** from 3 years ago. Old news. Feelings are the same now as then. They need to play better. Period. End of story. Rodgers included. Quit missing receivers, quit with off passes, quit dropping it, and most of all don't turn it over. Problems solved.

New quotes from Rodgers though.

They'll put their differences aside, but he put McCarthy on blast. Big time.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

I know there's always some dirt sport writers like to write about, but is this rift between
Mike McCarthy and Aron Rodgers important to you?

Patriots go though it on a weekly basis.
The game of football gets heated some times and players coaches say and act in a negative way
when the camera's are rolling, especially when D or O line plays poorly.

Your Thoughts!

2 words: Fake News!

 

[Jerellh528]

Rodgers has to make perfect throws every week for this team to be successful, meanwhile you see teams all over the nfl with their receivers running a route without a guy within 5 yards of him. Rodgers is prolly just pissed at the lack of aggression and innovation. Adams, Graham,& Jones are our big playmakers on offense, like Rodgers said, those guys should be getting way more attempts and more involved in the offense. And that “3 headed monster” needs to go. Jones needs like 20+ rushes a game with Williams in there to spell jones and Monty shouldn’t be getting carries. If jones doesn’t rush around 20 times a game, we’re doin something wrong.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Rodgers has to make perfect throws every week for this team to be successful,

Ridiculous, I saw plenty of plays out there yesterday an average QB could have made throws on.

 

[Patriotplayer90]

Rodgers has to make perfect throws every week for this team to be successful, meanwhile you see teams all over the nfl with their receivers running a route without a guy within 5 yards of him. Rodgers is prolly just pissed at the lack of aggression and innovation. Adams, Graham,& Jones are our big playmakers on offense, like Rodgers said, those guys should be getting way more attempts and more involved in the offense. And that “3 headed monster” needs to go. Jones needs like 20+ rushes a game with Williams in there to spell jones and Monty shouldn’t be getting carries. If jones doesn’t rush around 20 times a game, we’re doin something wrong.

Exactly. I watched Mariota yesterday, and the highlights of Trubisky, and the difference in the amount of separation is startling. And it's not like those teams have great WR groups, just great play designs. Which we do not have. It's inexcusable, the longer we wait to fire MM, the more we will be talking about "what could have been" and wasting an all time great player with a mediocre to average coach.

 

[Jerellh528]

Ridiculous, I saw plenty of plays out there yesterday an average QB could have made throws on.

Yes, there are going to be plays here and there that are whiffed. This is the nfl, a few missed passed and drops I can live with. But we’re talking 1 game here, the offense has been living on Rodgers arm and stale for years now.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Yes, there are going to be plays here and there that are whiffed. This is the nfl, a few missed passed and drops I can live with. But we’re talking 1 game here, the offense has been living on Rodgers arm and stale for years now.

More like the team is still needing to get out of the stinko Hundley era.

 

[PackAttack12]

2 words: Fake News!

You see AR's postgame presser?

Even if it's minor, there's something there. He's not a happy camper. It's very obvious who his comments were directed towards.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Exactly. I watched Mariota yesterday, and the highlights of Trubisky, and the difference in the amount of separation is startling. And it's not like those teams have great WR groups, just great play designs. Which we do not have. It's inexcusable, the longer we wait to fire MM, the more we will be talking about "what could have been" and wasting an all time great player with a mediocre to average coach.

Oh, so now the Titans average FG kicking offense is suddenly a great play design offense? Who next? The Blake Bortles 100-yard passing offense?

Or I know I know, how bout Jon Gruden's 1-3 Raider offense? Yes that's it, they must be the new innovative offense you been talking about because they went out and scored 45 points and Carr hit receivers like Jordy with nobody within a mile of him. Yes, that's it folks, MM must not be good because the Bungles, Bears and Raiders all scored high points even though the other teams are a bit reaky on defense at the moment.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Rodgers described himself as "old and cranky" during camp, and that was on display. His mentality is still, "this is a downfield passing offense", wanting 600 yards and 45 points, shaking his head at not getting that play when they "dared" to play single high safety. Assuming some responsibility for not executing in ball control mode would have been welcome. Even on a couple of deep shots he put the ball over the wrong shoulder.

We also had the earlier comment, to paraphrase, "there's the game plan, and then there's the plan on the field". If he wanted to go deep to Adams against single-high, in the past that has been accomplished with a nod, a wink and a line call. What's different not now?

McCarthy said Rodgers did a good job of "managing". Is that what it was, a case of the QB being told to stick to the ball control plan and manage it, with instructions to keep the ad libs to a minimum. Somebody would need to tell us that, though.

Old and cranky. I trust those Scotches will help.

 

[swhitset]

There is a lot of speculation here. It is certainly possible that Mccarthy and Rodgers are at odds at times... probable even considering they both have deservedly big egos. What is disturbing to me is that it seems like a lot of posters here seem to be hoping for that situation. Most have been critical of Mcarthy, so I suppose that those posters see this possible rift as validation for their position. What I don’t understand is why anybody would be happy about a situation that most definitely is not a positive force in the locker room nor on the field. The QB and the coaches need to be on the same page if the team is going to achieve the greatness we all hope for. Yeah I know some of you would be happy with a losing season if it meant you could be rid of Mcarthy. I, for one, am not on board with that. Every season matters, and Rodgers only has a few left. I will continue to root for the team and coaches as they exist and let next year be next year.

 

[PackAttack12]

There is a lot of speculation here. It is certainly possible that Mccarthy and Rodgers are at odds at times... probable even considering they both have deservedly big egos. What is disturbing to me is that it seems like a lot of posters here seem to be hoping for that situation. Most have been critical of Mcarthy, so I suppose that those posters see this possible rift as validation for their position. What I don’t understand is why anybody would be happy about a situation that most definitely is not a positive force in the locker room nor on the field. The QB and the coaches need to be on the same page if the team is going to achieve the greatness we all hope for. Yeah I know some of you would be happy with a losing season if it meant you could be rid of Mcarthy. I, for one, am not on board with that. Every season matters, and Rodgers only has a few left. I will continue to root for the team and coaches as they exist and let next year be next year.

Absolutely.

I'm still fine with McCarthy as the head coach. But I also don't mind Rodgers speaking out on the matter.
From R-E-L-A-X, to "run the table", whatever the case may be, there's a method to his madness.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

Not worried. Some conflict is good, and can help in resolving other issues.

I'm glad we have a quarterback who cares enough to say all is not well after a win. Now we'll see what happens from here.

 

[Wi. Mike now in Florida]

McCarthy’s view. "Individual execution hasn’t been consistent enough for the Packers offense to take the next step to start 2018."

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

McCarthy’s view. "Individual execution hasn’t been consistent enough for the Packers offense to take the next step to start 2018."

And he's bang on the money which is why I will back him in his statement of being a highly successful NFL head coach.

 

[Mondio]

McCarthy’s view. "Individual execution hasn’t been consistent enough for the Packers offense to take the next step to start 2018."

someone somewhere thinks he's wrong? I'd say they haven't been watching if they do.