I consider it a sign of a good idea, WAY outside the box... Realistic. He would have to slip to the second round like Lacy did, for us to get him. That could happen too.
Clay Matthews at ILB is outside the box. This is more along the lines of, just a bad idea. It's also not very realistic, since he probably won't slip out of the first and if he does, will never make it all the way to the bottom of the 2nd.
Hindsight, I bet TT would trade up in the first round to go get Lacy, if he knew then what he knows now. In the olden days, great RBs like Lacy and Gordon wouldnt have made it out of top 10. So getting a great RB at #30 isnt really that big of a stretch.
I'm sure he probably wouldn't, since he still appreciates value and isn't going to waste a pick to trade up knowing he could have likely had him with his pick in the 1st anyway. Even if he did, what does that have to do with anything? He'd probably take Corey Linsley earlier if he knew what he knows now. What does any of that have to do with a guy that they don't know about yet? Also, please stop comparing Gordon to Lacy by saying "great RBs like Lacy and Gordon wouldn't have made it out top 10." Lacy has 2 seasons under his belt as a top RB. I LIKE Gordon, but he played in an offensive college system, that, time and time again, has churned out great college RB's and bad NFL RB's. It doesn't mean Gordon won't be great, but you keep talking about it like it's a foregone conclusion. Guess what, if it was a foregone conclusion, we wouldn't even need to be having this discussion because he'd never drop.
I just wanted to fully dive into the idea of a long term 2nd head for our double headed monster run game. I think I made some good points. What triggered this whole idea, besides Gordons speed. What seeing both Kuhn and Harris as free agents... If there was going to be a move made. Now would be the time. We got a young #1. We got a very good, low miles veteran #2. and total freedom to build our run game to have..... well, everything.... For a long time.
So we have the best QB in the NFL, we just invested big deals in our 2 elite WR's, and you want to essentially turn us into a run-oriented 70's style wishbone offense? Man, I'm glad you're not the one actually making these decisions. We have the perfect back for our offensive system. We DON'T NEED another one.
In a changing NFL, you cant bring the same game plan back the next year and expect same results. Carrol is probably watching GB tape as we speak.
Sure you can. Do you really think our offense changed much from 2013 to 2014? It hasn't really changed much since Rodgers has been here. Sure, we've become a little more run-oriented with Lacy, but the foundation of our offense hasn't changed. Do you think we're going to come out and start splitting out Rodgers and running the Wildcat next year? No, it'll be pretty much more of the same. There isn't some secret that Carroll is going to see on film to stop it. He can look for weaknesses, but most of it is about talent (which we already have a glutton of on offense), and execution. Doesn't mean we won't come up with some new plays, but we're certainly not going to be changing what we do.
Bringing in speed like Janis, and say Gordon... Changes EVERYTHING!!!
This is approximately the 70 zillionth time you have talked about how much of a difference maker you expect a 7th round pick out of DII Saginaw Valley State to be in our already elite offense after being almost solely inactive last year, solely based on his speed. How about we just draft the speedy RB version of Jeff Janis in the 7th this year, and call it good?