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[Pokerbrat2000]

How come I can't see ANY of the posts in this thread anymore?

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[gopkrs]

How come I can't see ANY of the posts in this thread anymore?

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Everyone except me has you on ignore

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

I think it was a blanket statement

Sorry, you`re on ignore

 

[Mondio]

Sorry, you`re on ignore

It’s like being at home in here

 

[Half Empty]

MVS has caught 37% of targets with air yards of 25 or greater.

While that may seem low, it ranks him fairly high in the league. Just FYI.

Gotta luv numbers. Pro Football Reference has him with a 47.2% catch rate overall, putting him at #200 out of 204.

 

[sschind]

Has made it a better experience for me Sometimes its nice to filter out a bit of the noise, makes it more desirable to be here to enjoy what I come here for, other Packer fans and their wisdom. I don't need the ones who try to shove their so called wisdom (right or wrong) down others throats by consistently belittling others.

I've got three or four on ignore I think. I don't remember who they are though. I just get tired of seeing the same old crap from some people. Every now and then, depending on the topic I may hit the view ignored content button and 9 times out of 10 the first post that comes up reminds me why I have them on ignore.

I'm just glad it's a true ignore feature. Another site I am on includes for sale posts in the new posts search and sometimes there are people I would never buy from and they list 20 or 30 things in a row. I put them on ignore but the threads still show up. If I do click on one it says you are ignoring this person. What's the point in that. I can do that myself. I don't even want to see their threads.

 

[jon]

Gotta luv numbers. Pro Football Reference has him with a 47.2% catch rate overall, putting him at #200 out of 204.

And beyond this, drops in key situations and not getting better. I am not an MVS fan because he still cradles every ball rather than learn to catch with his hands.

 

[JK64]

Oh. And that’s on MVS then?

Why was it a bad play call? Because it didn’t work?

It wasn't a good play call because the defense was ready for it. Yes, it didn't work and was not only on MVS, of course. Sometimes great players make chicken salad out of chicken bleep.

 

[gopkrs]

It wasn't a good play call because the defense was ready for it. Yes, it didn't work and was not only on MVS, of course. Sometimes great players make chicken salad out of chicken bleep.

I can't see how that was on MVS at all.

 

[lambeaulambo]

somebody answer that damn phone!!!

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

And beyond this, drops in key situations and not getting better. I am not an MVS fan because he still cradles every ball rather than learn to catch with his hands.

This pretty much sums up how I feel too. He doesn't look fluid when catching the ball. Love his speed, but really don't see him getting a lot of snaps on many teams. He has another year to prove himself and for those wanting him gone at the end of the year, why? I mean I hope we can improve the WR group as a whole in 2021, but he has earned the chance to compete for a job. Not to mention that it wont cost the Packers anything if he doesn't make the 53, if he does make the 53, he will be due $920K. His dead cap hit, no matter what is only $54K.

 

[JK64]

I saw a stat that had MVS with the 2nd most drops among all receivers, with 40 or more targets.

 

[tynimiller]

I saw a stat that had MVS with the 2nd most drops among all receivers, with 40 or more targets.

Correct, his catch percentage is one of the lowest of qualifying WRs. Been disclosed by everyone here, he will never be a high percentage catch guy, given a large chunk of his targets are always over 25 yards, but he needs to get up to similar as guys like Stills produced in his good years doing similar role.

Mid 50s to 60% is about as good as I'd ever expect out of a pure deep threat like him.

 

[PackAttack12]

Correct, his catch percentage is one of the lowest of qualifying WRs. Been disclosed by everyone here, he will never be a high percentage catch guy, given a large chunk of his targets are always over 25 yards, but he needs to get up to similar as guys like Stills produced in his good years doing similar role.

Mid 50s to 60% is about as good as I'd ever expect out of a pure deep threat like him.

He misses a lot of bunnies too though. I haven't checked the numbers on certain yardages, but I can think of a few off the top of my head. Two blatant ones for sure in the opener as I was re-watching the offensive snaps.

 

[Mondio]

He’s not a proficient catcher of the football, from anywhere on the field. If he was better he’d be a home run rather than just someone on the roster

 

[tynimiller]

Both of you are correct, no one logically could say he is more. As someone I think gleefully pointed out the category of 25+ yard tosses he ranks quite how on successful receptions.

MVS is only polarizing for those expecting him to be a #2 or a high efficiency type guy. If he had good hands, or routes - he would have been a top 3 drafted WR when he came out.

He is purely a deep threat, one which is rarely not the fastest guy on the field when we snap the ball. Very raw yet....

The crazy thing is, he doesn't need hands like Adams or have a reception rate above 60% to be effective for us...honestly he stops dropping the wide open ones...not talking the diving ones thrown way down field he misses or the somewhat defended...but just think how insane his numbers could be if he learns to just catch the open ones, use hands instead of body.

I mean I can think of 4 or so catches alone that if made his yards receiving is nearly 200 yards higher...and yet his reception % would go nearly unaffected...point or two higher.

 

[PackAttack12]

Both of you are correct, no one logically could say he is more. As someone I think gleefully pointed out the category of 25+ yard tosses he ranks quite how on successful receptions.

MVS is only polarizing for those expecting him to be a #2 or a high efficiency type guy. If he had good hands, or routes - he would have been a top 3 drafted WR when he came out.

He is purely a deep threat, one which is rarely not the fastest guy on the field when we snap the ball. Very raw yet....

The crazy thing is, he doesn't need hands like Adams or have a reception rate above 60% to be effective for us...honestly he stops dropping the wide open ones...not talking the diving ones thrown way down field he misses or the somewhat defended...but just think how insane his numbers could be if he learns to just catch the open ones, use hands instead of body.

I mean I can think of 4 or so catches alone that if made his yards receiving is nearly 200 yards higher...and yet his reception % would go nearly unaffected...point or two higher.

I'm not giving up on MVS.

And I know that he does a lot of things that contribute to the Packers success. But dropping routine balls on 5 yard outs and fumbling in big time games offsets a considerable portion of the things he does well.

Davante had a drop issue early in his career and now he's one of the most sure handed receivers in the game. So it's possible for MVS to improve in that aspect. But he needs to do it in a hurry.

His blunders could eventually cost the Packers in a playoff game.

I like the kid a lot. But he's been underwhelming.

MVS may not be the #2 option. But he's #2 in targets for the Packers this season. In fairness, that's in large part due to Lazard being out, but that's a considerable target share for someone that has a case of the dropsies.

You have no choice but to keep going to him. No question. But he's got to be better.

 

[GleefulGary]

MVS just had probably the best catch of his career there in the EZ.

 

[Do7]

MVS just had probably the best catch of his career there in the EZ.

Dammit Gary! You beat me to it! Now if he can keep that same concentration.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Who is wearing #83 for the Packers today?

 

[PackAttack12]

MVS just had probably the best catch of his career there in the EZ.

Dammit Gary! You beat me to it! Now if he can keep that same concentration.

Who is wearing #83 for the Packers today?

An absolute thing of beauty. If he can ever catch it consistently...my goodness.

 

[jon]

MVS just had probably the best catch of his career there in the EZ.

Not just his career, but that was truly excellent by anyone's standards.

 

[tynimiller]

He is using his hands this game. The odd thing is he is doing a lot of shorter routes and such for us this game and exceeding expectations. Doesn't change what he is, but love seeing him succeed so far.

 

[Mavster]

MVS with the best game of his career today

 

[PackAttack12]

He is using his hands this game. The odd thing is he is doing a lot of shorter routes and such for us this game and exceeding expectations. Doesn't change what he is, but love seeing him succeed so far.

He's reliable hands away from being a cheat code.