Jaire becoming injury prone

[OldSchool101]

I heard Howard apparently had a workout and perhaps even an offer from Cincy, but ultimately they weren't able to come to an agreement so still a FA...

Perhaps worth noting though perhaps that he was subject to an investigation/lawsuit over the summer where he allegedly sent explicit photos/videos to the (underage) son of one of his ex's.... I don't know what resolution there was there (if any) but I do wonder if that hasn't scared some off (and rightly so, if true)

Lawsuit: Xavien Howard sent explicit content to ex's son

Oh wow. I didn’t realize that. I wouldn’t touch that sounds like he’s got a curse on him. That’s some pretty childish stuff mixed with some messed up stuff if that’s really valid.

 

[milani]

He literally played like 3 snaps and was done smh. This marks two years in a row where he’s gotten hurt during the season. If I’m not mistaken I heard the mention of a groin…we all know groin injuries in Green Bay mean 3-4 weeks MINIMUM smh. I hope this Nixon guy can play because Jaire won’t be back until late October I’m anticipating.

The offense is going to have to get it together and stop relying on the defense to bail them out because eventually they will have an off day as well.

He is injury prone. And if he played elsewhere the same would occur. And non-contact injuries.

 

[milani]

This is why a lot of corners don't play as physically as Alexander plays. I wouldn't have him any other way but when a 195 pound corner (corners don't go heavy on the pads relative to the front seven) is not afraid to take on blockers/tackle running backs, they risk getting injured.

His big one was in 2021 when he hit one of the Steelers in the backfield on a run play. He was out and finally made a cameo in the playoff against SF. Not a dude who is made for the physical type of game yet if he holds up he is pretty good at it.

 

[PikeBadger]

He's a part time player and has been for years. Gutekunst needs to draft his eventual replacement.

 

[lambeaulambo]

Is that you Mr. Burns? lol Hard to part with him when healthy.

 

[OldSchool101]

There is mostly truth that once injury prone, always prone.

That said, injuries are often compounding if they force a player back too soon. If he was going in to “test” his injury that tells me all I need to know. He was likely 1-2 weeks away from being healed up.

 

[tynimiller]

Imagine the money teams would throw at players if players wrote in an injury clause which would lower their cap hit in a season. Now the issue is you’d start having teams play the cap game and manifest injuries at times with their big players for this which is why likely this exists.

Perhaps a player option to do it, many wouldn’t do it likely cuz we are talking millions but still…

 

[Pkrjones]

Imagine the money teams would throw at players if players wrote in an injury clause which would lower their cap hit in a season. Now the issue is you’d start having teams play the cap game and manifest injuries at times with their big players for this which is why likely this exists.

Perhaps a player option to do it, many wouldn’t do it likely cuz we are talking millions but still…

Interesting concept. More up-front money but a built-in mechanism to reduce salary to vet min if IR'd for x amount of games...I like it.

 

[tynimiller]

Interesting concept. More up-front money but a built-in mechanism to reduce salary to vet min if IR'd for x amount of games...I like it.

Going to vet minimum would never pass the players agent at all.

 

[swhitset]

Going to vet minimum would never pass the players agent at all.

Not to mention the fact that increasing the up front money would not solve the problem since it would just get prorated out anyway…. The dead money would still be an issue.

 

[Thirteen Below]

He is injury prone. And if he played elsewhere the same would occur. And non-contact injuries.

Living in Kentucky, I saw Jaire play tons of snaps. I was really hoping he'd wind up in green and gold, and was thrilled when we drafted him. His first couple of years, I was glad to have him.

Frankly, at this point I'd be glad to get rd of him if there's a cap-friendly way to do it.

Over the last 4 seasons, Green Bay has played a total of 71 games in the regular season and playoffs. By my count, Alexander has played in 37 of them - 52% of the games.

His average annual salary for those 4 years has been $21,000,000, which is an average of $41,000,000 per game played.

Jaire is one of the better cornerbacks in the league when he's on the field, a true #1 cornerback. But in half of the games Green Bay plays, his spot has to be taken by the 3rd or even 4th CB on the depth chart. I don't see how we can afford to keep paying him $41 million for every game he actually plays; that money would be better spent on one or two corners who may not be as good as Jaire, but still a big upgrade over Stokes or Nixon.

 

[DoURant]

Living in Kentucky, I saw Jaire play tons of snaps. I was really hoping he'd wind up in green and gold, and was thrilled when we drafted him. His first couple of years, I was glad to have him.

Frankly, at this point I'd be glad to get rd of him if there's a cap-friendly way to do it.

Over the last 4 seasons, Green Bay has played a total of 71 games in the regular season and playoffs. By my count, Alexander has played in 37 of them - 52% of the games.

His average annual salary for those 4 years has been $21,000,000, which is an average of $41,000,000 per game played.

Jaire is one of the better cornerbacks in the league when he's on the field, a true #1 cornerback. But in half of the games Green Bay plays, his spot has to be taken by the 3rd or even 4th CB on the depth chart. I don't see how we can afford to keep paying him $41 million for every game he actually plays; that money would be better spent on one or two corners who may not be as good as Jaire, but still a big upgrade over Stokes or Nixon.

I think you need to check your math, as I'm sure you meant to say 410,000 a game, not 41M. Unfortunately he has missed a lot of games, but it would probably be difficult to trade a guy who has been injured as often as Jaire. Plus, add in that big contract, and that's a lot for another team to take on for possibly the same issues.

 

[milani]

I think you need to check your math, as I'm sure you meant to say 410,000 a game, not 41M. Unfortunately he has missed a lot of games, but it would probably be difficult to trade a guy who has been injured as often as Jaire. Plus, add in that big contract, and that's a lot for another team to take on for possibly the same issues.

Now do not forget that there are still 2 teams in the league that you can swindle for such a deal. They are the Raiders and the Jets.

 

[Thirteen Below]

I think you need to check your math, as I'm sure you meant to say 410,000 a game, not 41M. Unfortunately he has missed a lot of games, but it would probably be difficult to trade a guy who has been injured as often as Jaire. Plus, add in that big contract, and that's a lot for another team to take on for possibly the same issues.

Oh, christ, yeah... i was getting frustrated because my calculator program was closing every single time I clicked back to Spotrac or pro-football-reference.com to double check a figure. So I kept having to save data from the calculator program to a word processing program after every calculation, plus rely a lot on memory, and.... yeah. There it is.

When I make a dumb mistake, I usually leave it be because when i make a mistake i don't like to avoid responsibility for them - rather own it and bite the bullet. But for the simple sake of clarity, I think I have to fix that. Thank you very much.

 

[DoURant]

Oh, christ, yeah... i was getting frustrated because my calculator program was closing every single time I clicked back to Spotrac or pro-football-reference.com to double check a figure. So I kept having to save data from the calculator program to a word processing program after every calculation, plus rely a lot on memory, and.... yeah. There it is.

When I make a dumb mistake, I usually leave it be because when i make a mistake i don't like to avoid responsibility for them - rather own it and bite the bullet. But for the simple sake of clarity, I think I have to fix that. Thank you very much.

You're good bud, I am in the camp of not trading Jaire, hoping this injury issue fets figured out. However, I also feel we do need to look into FA ,and an early draft pick spent on a CB next year

 

[tynimiller]

You're good bud, I am in the camp of not trading Jaire, hoping this injury issue fets figured out. However, I also feel we do need to look into FA ,and an early draft pick spent on a CB next year

Yeah our roster structure and that contract would make moving Jaire before the end of 2025 fiscal year just not good...now if Valentine grew more and appeared to be the next gem found like Rasul and Stokes was more serviceable post injury MAYBE...and likely then only if Gute spends money on CB in FA and drafts a top 100 pick in draft.

Rasul is a free agent this off season.....just saying.....draft a higher level guy, add Rasul and for one year keep Jaire...

Now yes technically we could walk from Jaire and save $6M this off season BUT his cap hit is only two million more than this year....

IF we move Jaire, I'd prefer it be a post June 1st trade or release to save us total of $15M over two years instead - but I still much prefer infusion of a signed FA, draft pick and hang on to Valentine/Ballentine/King for 2025. I can take a leave Nixon IMO.


I would also add that our issues at CB is why I'd have embraced Gute going very aggressive towards Cleveland and getting Greg Newsome to be a Packer.

 

[PikeBadger]

Now do not forget that there are still 2 teams in the league that you can swindle for such a deal. They are the Raiders and the Jets.

Lol, Never underestimate the stupidity of some franchises. A good GM is always alert to the potential plundering of his knucklehead peers. We've got an excellent GM.

 

[El Guapo]

We had a miserable set of safeties last season, and Gutekunst made that one of his top offseason focuses. He succeeded.

CB last season was decent enough to not warrant being a top need. Jaire was good at the end of the season, Valentine and Ballentine held good WRs to modest games when they were the starters, and there was hope with Stokes coming back. There is only so much that Gutekunst could do with a salary cap that was still fighting the remnants of Aaron Rodgers' dead money.

I fully suspect that we will be focusing on CB, LB, DE, OL, and WR next offseason. That would be the order of importance that I currently place on those needs.