Is Aaron Rodgers the best Packer QB of all time ?

[Jerellh528]

You said championship? But you should know how to Google it?

But, with out even looking, I know Rodgers is far better in the regular season.. He has the #1 rating.

Starr has the #1 rating in playoffs..

It's a matter of opinion. You want Championships? Starr was great at playoffs..

You want regular season? Then Rodgers is your guy.

So you take Starr because of his grand total of 10 playoff games? Mr. Rodgers isn't exactly a chump in the playoffs, he does have a super bowl MVP. Not like he's just a regular season guy, and the packers playoff losses have largely been on the defense, not Rodgers imo.

 

[Jerellh528]

It's weird, I think he's the best packer qb in history, but not the greatest packer qb in history if that makes sense, which is Brett favre.

Rodgers is already top 10 imo could make the top 5 with some more years and a little more hardware.

Brady
Montana
Manning
Unitas
Young
Favre
Marino
Elway
I think Rodgers has a case here, I'm not upset if people put him at 11 behind graham and staubach. But I definitely think Rodgers is top 10

 

[yooperpackfan]

This thread seems to show up every few months.

My first thought was ,Here we go again.

 

[Bluegrass79]

He could also have more if he played up to his capable level in a few playoff loses.

Not all on the defense.

the last 3-4 years its been the defense losing it. Aaron has done everything he could to win the last 3 years in the playoffs.

 

[Carl]

the last 3-4 years its been the defense losing it. Aaron has done everything he could to win the last 3 years in the playoffs.

We can agree to disagree on this one.

Yes, Seattle had a great defense, but that doesnt mean Rodgers should have thrown the ball directly to Sherman in the end zone and miss a wide open guy in the flat for a TD on one of the early FG drives.

 

[Patriotplayer90]

We can agree to disagree on this one.

Yes, Seattle had a great defense, but that doesnt mean Rodgers should have throwthrown the ball directly to Sherman in the end zone and miss a wide open guy in the flat for a TD on one of the early FG drives.

The ref could have called offsides like he was supposed to. Hence why the throw happened in the first place.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

The ref could have called offsides like he was supposed to. Hence why the throw happened in the first place.

Would have, could have, should have ! He didn't and it was game over. Playing that game is dangerous if it doesn't work.

 

[Packer Brother]

He could also have more if he played up to his capable level in a few playoff loses.

Not all on the defense.

Exactly. Remember the 12 point lead late in the NFCCG? Offense crapped the bed. Theyou get a TD or FG...there is zero chance for a fumbled onside kick. Heck they could've killed the clock more too.

Starr won the most titles. Favre was more durable, yet also mistake prone. Rodgers is the most gifted. Until further notice, Starr is the greatest. As for coaches, MM has surpassed Holmgren.

 

[Sanguine camper]

The question should be if Rodgers is the best qb of all time. Starr was HOF all the time and Favre could have amazing stretches in the regular season until the big picks would come out in the playoffs but Rodgers routinely makes plays that Noone else ever makes. Nobody has his combination of mobility, accuracy and arm strength. If TT had assembled a decent team around him the Packers would have been a dynasty instead of a bunch of one and done disappointments.

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

I don't know the real answer to this question, but I have to say I feel he is the smartest and craftiest. Most of the time he knows exactly where every defensive player is. It's fun watching him getting the ball snapped quickly when he see's a defensive player not hustling off of the field or when there is some type of mismatch on the field. He is entertaining to watch!

 

[PackAttack12]

He could also have more if he played up to his capable level in a few playoff loses.

Not all on the defense.

Better overall playoff numbers across the board than Tom Brady. Let that soak in.

For me, it's tough to get past that. If he had what Brady has had, it wouldn't even be fair.

 

[PackAttack12]

He said Rodgers does it all, showing Rodgers is human.


But here is another, Cardinals last year..
78 rating.

With a dude wearing a hoodie and 2 other receivers who collectively had like 11 receptions on the year. No Jordy (I grant you he was out for the season...) but no Cobb, no Adams, and a poo poo platter of a TE group, against a really good defense. Context is important.

I will say this though. The defense played extremely well in that game, given the opponent. But Rodgers also made the two throws to tie the game, and the defense lost Fitz in overtime to seal it.

When it comes money time, especially over the past two years, Rodgers got the game to OT, and the defense couldn't give us the ball.

 

[PackAttack12]

We can agree to disagree on this one.

Yes, Seattle had a great defense, but that doesnt mean Rodgers should have thrown the ball directly to Sherman in the end zone and miss a wide open guy in the flat for a TD on one of the early FG drives.

That's fair, but lets also take into account that Rodgers was playing on one leg against a historically great defense.

 

[longtimefan]

So you take Starr because of his grand total of 10 playoff games? Mr. Rodgers isn't exactly a chump in the playoffs, he does have a super bowl MVP. Not like he's just a regular season guy, and the packers playoff losses have largely been on the defense, not Rodgers imo.

Sigh...

It is undeniable Bart has the best rating in playoffs on with 9 and 1..

Rodgers is 14 and 13..

Not sure why I have to defend MY opinion..

I'm. Out

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

Sigh...

It is undeniable Bart has the best rating in playoffs on with 9 and 1..

Rodgers is 14 and 13..

Not sure why I have to defend MY opinion..

I'm. Out

Just count to ten....and maybe do it again.

 

[PackAttack12]

Sigh...

It is undeniable Bart has the best rating in playoffs on with 9 and 1..

Rodgers is 14 and 13..

Not sure why I have to defend MY opinion..

I'm. Out

You referring to his playoff record?

 

[longtimefan]

You referring to his playoff record?

Of course

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RodgAa00.htm

 

[PackAttack12]

Of course

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RodgAa00.htm

The 14 is games played, and the 13 is games started.

Rodgers has a career record of 7-6 in the playoffs.

 

[AlabamaPackerCracker]

Of course

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RodgAa00.htm

Not sure if you're serious or not, his record is 7-6

 

[OldSchool101]

"Best" QB is a vague term but what stands out to me and many others is that Aaron is by far the most accurate Packer QB. For example, His accuracy in Career TD to INT ratio is unparalleled in the history of the NFL
If we were building a Packer "A Team" from all historical Packer players and positions. He would have to be at the top of our list for QB consideration.
yes, Favre has stats and Starr has Championships but Aaron has both And he's not close to being done

 

[longtimefan]

The 14 is games played, and the 13 is games started.

Rodgers has a career record of 7-6 in the playoffs.

2007 Brett started..correct..
You are correct!

So 9 and 1 to 7 and 6...

But here is the record..
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[longtimefan]

Not sure if you're serious or not, his record is 7-6

I miss read the column

 

[PackAttack12]

"Best" QB is a vague term but what stands out to me and many others is that Aaron is by far the most accurate Packer QB. For example, His accuracy in Career TD to INT ratio is unparalleled in the history of the NFL

Yeah. See, I look at it in two different ways. There is a difference in "best" and "greatest".

Rodgers has the greatest overall talent in the history of the league at the quarterback position. He's 1st, like you alluded to, in TD to INT ratio, which is my favorite QB statistic, 1st all time in passer rating. His efficiency numbers are all time great, and he is already 11th all time in touchdown passes. And will likely pass guys 6-10 by the end of next season. He has a great chance to throw the most TD passes of all time if he continues at this rate.

So in the category of "best" he is right there with the greats, and his numbers will be comparable to anyone when all is said and done.

When we get to talking about "great", Rodgers will need to get to double digit playoff victories (like, this year maybe. ), and he will need to win 2 more rings to be considered in the all time great category.

Big difference between the two.

 

[PackAttack12]

I miss read the column

Hey. It happens.

 

[Croak]

Sigh...

It is undeniable Bart has the best rating in playoffs on with 9 and 1..

Rodgers is 14 and 13..

Not sure why I have to defend MY opinion..

I'm. Out

There's more to Bart Starr's career than just championships. He was a leader among men. He was a strategist from behind center. He knew how to adapt, improvise and overcome. Yes, he was MVP of the league once as well. Folks don't remember he was tough, willing to take a hit. He made it a point to be in sync with his receivers and his timing was incredible. He was stubborn as heck too when it came to situations people thought he couldn't handle. He was a great part of why the Packers were so successful in those years and Coach Lombardi recognized it.

A lot of guys on this forum, though, may be to young to remember legends like Starr and Unitas. Some of them may be too young to remember the machine that was Montana. So to those folks, Unitas, Starr, Montana, couldn't possibly be as good as today's QBs. They are just "legends to be read about". Honestly, I can understand that.

But for those of us who watched Starr and tried to imitate him in the back yard, he was pure magic. I remember the long semi-heated debates between my friends about who was better, Starr or Unitas. I don't think we ever resolved it.