Fire Capers

[adambr2]

The last 2 elimination games for us have been identical. Defense dominates all game til the 4th. Then defense completely melts in crunch time.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Dom really needs to go. We can't win a SB with him. Him and his damn zones cost us greatly

What are you smoking?

 

[Patriotplayer90]

The defense is finally getting good so we should let go of the coordinator and start over?

Actually analyze that long play to Fitz too. The line got pressure and missed the sack on a slow QB. Fitz was covered at first and then the secondary just let him go. Then they missed like 4-5 tackles.

That play was loaded with mistakes and is not on Capers.

The defense also made a good goal line play that ended up a TD and Shields dropped a possible pick 6. Capers did not lose this game.

Doesn't matter. Game ended with defense on the field, after the offense did the unthinkable. Capers and crew can't get it done, failure shouldn't be acceptable.

 

[adambr2]

The defense is finally getting good so we should let go of the coordinator and start over?

Actually analyze that long play to Fitz too. The line got pressure and missed the sack on a slow QB. Fitz was covered at first and then the secondary just let him go. Then they missed like 4-5 tackles.

That play was loaded with mistakes and is not on Capers.

The defense also made a good goal line play that ended up a TD and Shields dropped a possible pick 6.

Capers did not lose this game.

I'm not saying the play is his fault, but does Capers have to physically strap on a helmet and uniform and take the field on defense before you'll hold him responsible for anything?

 

[red4tribe]

I don't know if I'm in favor of firing Capers, but the defense hasn't come through in crunch time the last two years. That Fitzgerald catch was really more due to a missed sack, and several missed tackles than anything else.

 

[adambr2]

No matter what you believe, I'll say one thing. It's an absolute crying shame that what should have been one of the greatest plays in NFL playoff history will now be just a forgotten footnote because of the defense failing in overtime.

 

[DON BARRETT]

Only greenbay can screw up a playoff game!!! We had it ... Who leaves Fitzgerald open by himself anyway my god something has to change. If I was 30 years older I would be dead from a heart attack from the **** endings we have had in playoffs!! Other notes Janis and aberdarius need more playing time!!!!

 

[Carl]

I'm not saying the play is his fault, but does Capers have to physically strap on a helmet and uniform and take the field on defense before you'll hold him responsible for anything?

All I said was the play was loaded with player mistakes, which was pretty obvious.

 

[Jz3]

Classic Capers/Packers defense. Never seen a defense get scored on so easy and fast in crunch time. Do we even cover players or is covering say a teams #1 WR to obvious.

 

[Poppa San]

I am at a loss as to why but the defense giving up the lead in the 4th quarter of playoff games is a broken record and has to have a scapegoat. Capers is the logical fall guy.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Yeah, lets forget about the the 55 minutes that Capers called an excellent game with the limited talent he has to work with and just fire him!

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

To be fair I think you gotta hold the offense to just as much accountability as the defense. Yeah they did come through once again on a fantastic hail mary, but that game should not have had to come down to a game-tying TD. If we do our jobs and build on that 13-10 lead and get some more damn points on the board and don't keep tiring the defense out by putting them back on the field. The O did do better than the last time we played these guys, but still not enough in my opinion to give them a pass, even with those 2 big plays at the end of regulation.

That being said, I am not going to call for Capers to be fired, but if MM or TT or whoever does do it, I'm not going to complain about that. Even if it was I'm sure the players fault that our special teams wasn't up to snuff last year, that didn't save Slocum from being shown the door. Don't get me wrong, I think we could do a whole lot worse than Capers as our DC, but if our big boss's do feel there's a better option, I'm all for it.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Dom really needs to go. We can't win a SB with him. Him and his damn zones cost us greatly

Yep...his defense held Arizona to 75 yards in the first half and gave up a horribly fluky TD at the end of the game. The game has passed him by. Any decent defensive coordinator would have held the best offense in the NFL to 43 yards and 3 points for the entire game.

 

[Defense92]

The big factor was going for it on fourth down on their own 25. They should have punted and tried to hold them. Going for it allowed the Cardinals to already be in field goal range. Take that field goal away and the Packers TD at the end of regulation would have been a game winner rather than sending it into overtime.

 

[Patriotplayer90]

Right, Rodgers with 4 of his top 5 receivers out still pulls it out when it matters most, but Capers is still successful every moment except when they must with 24 first round picks on defense is the man .

 

[Jz3]

Yeah, lets forget about the the 55 minutes that Capers called an excellent game with the limited talent he has to work with and just fire him!

Limited talent on defense. You mean where every draft pick has went the last 5 years almost.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Yep...his defense held Arizona to 75 yards in the first half and gave up a horribly fluky TD at the end of the game. The game has passed him by. Any decent defensive coordinator would have held the best offense in the NFL to 43 yards and 3 points for the entire game.

The irony is, Zartan forgot to mention we DID win a superbowl because of him. Guy I think has earned some slack.

But recently .... ehhhh I'm just real split. In some ways I feel like our defense over the course of last year and into this year has improved, and for that he should be given credit. On the other hand, I'm as upset as anybody that Fitz got left wide open and in 1 play we put them in position to score, and yes, it does seem like we end up giving up a game-winning TD on D in OT one way or the other, whether you want to go by that Jermaine Kearse TD last year, or what happened in this game, so I can see where the rage is coming from.

At the same time though, lest we all forget, we fired Ed Donatell our old DC back in 2004 because of another play that ... well I won't mention. But we all know how that turned out. And those who don't learn from history might just be doomed to repeat it.

 

[Carl]

Yeah, lets forget about the the 55 minutes that Capers called an excellent game with the limited talent he has to work with and just fire him!

Even though they gave up a TD late in regulation, the overall performance of the defense in regular time was very good.

17 points (started one drive in FG range) is extremely good against the number one offense in the league that has averaged 30.2 per game.

Yes, OT was awful, but players mistakes killed that, not a play call.

 

[Zartan]

The irony is, Zartan forgot to mention we DID win a superbowl because of him. Guy I think has earned some slack.

But recently .... ehhhh I'm just real split. In some ways I feel like our defense over the course of last year and into this year has improved, and for that he should be given credit. On the other hand, I'm as upset as anybody that Fitz got left wide open and in 1 play we put them in position to score, and yes, it does seem like we end up giving up a game-winning TD on D in OT one way or the other, whether you want to go by that Jermaine Kearse TD last year, or what happened in this game, so I can see where the rage is coming from.

At the same time though, lest we all forget, we fired Ed Donatell our old DC back in 2004 because of another play that ... well I won't mention. But we all know how that turned out. And those who don't learn from history might just be doomed to repeat it.

6 years ago.. And by sheer luck. Had Williams not picked Vick against the Eagles MM and TT would of been fired as they crapped the bed past few years.

 

[Carl]

6 years ago.. And by sheer luck. Had Williams not picked Vick against the Eagles MM and TT would of been fired as they crapped the bed past few years.

They luckily had the 2nd best defense in the league and shut down 3 offenses on the way to the Super Bowl. Coupled with one of the best offenses in the league. Whatever you say man.

Nobody should even try to have a rational argument with you anymore on this subject.

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

Yeah, lets forget about the the 55 minutes that Capers called an excellent game with the limited talent he has to work with and just fire him!

Why do we keep saying we have limited talent? We've had how many draft picks on defense? If that's the way we choose to build this team, shouldn't we have acquired the talent by now? I mean what do we call Clay, Daniels, Datone, Perry, Randall, Shields, and HaHa? Do we need to have 11 pro bowl players to stop blaming the defense on lack of talent or are we drafting the wrong players?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Why do we keep saying we have limited talent? We've had how many draft picks on defense? If that's the way we choose to build this team, shouldn't we have acquired the talent by now? I mean what do we call Clay, Daniels, Datone, Perry, Randall, Shields, and HaHa? Do we need to have 11 pro bowl players to stop blaming the defense on lack of talent or are we drafting the wrong players?

Even better yet, lets talk about why Capers should be fired.....since this is the title of the post. What did Capers do wrong again tonight, that he should be fired?

 

[Carl]

Even better yet, lets talk about why Capers should be fired.....since this is the title of the post. What did Capers do wrong again tonight, that he should be fired?

The examples have things he does wrong never come.

 

[Jz3]

We didn't win a super bowl because of Capers. We almost lost a super bowl because of him. We got bailed out at the end of the Eagles game with a pick and should of lost. It was a fluke ending. 9/10 playoff games our defense gives up the TD. We played the Bears with a 3rd string scrub and barley win.

Rodgers had a coming out party. That is why we won a super bowl and John Schneider was part of our staff. Wouldn't be surprised if all the talent came from John Schneider for that 2010 team.

 

[C-Lee]

Stop with this. This season was probably the best defense we've had since 2010.