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[Mondio]

Worst three linemen I’ve ever seen in Green Bay. Wth drafted Spriggs in the 2nd rd again? They should fire that idiot!!

Marshall Newhouse
Jason Spriggs
Don Barclay

remember the moron that took an even worse guy in the first round, John Michels

 

[AmishMafia]

Worst three linemen I’ve ever seen in Green Bay. Wth drafted Spriggs in the 2nd rd again? They should fire that idiot!!

Marshall Newhouse
Jason Spriggs
Don Barclay

remember the moron that took an even worse guy in the first round, John Michels

What's funny is it was Elliott Wolf who was pushing really hard for Spriggs. Like father like son. And folks here really wanted Elliot as GM.

 

[PackerDNA]

Do tell, what did you see? Please provide your analysis of Spriggs' play in the game. I haven't been able to rewatch the game. I was at a party and unable to pay close attention.

He looked bad Amish.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Worst three linemen I’ve ever seen in Green Bay. Wth drafted Spriggs in the 2nd rd again? They should fire that idiot!!

Marshall Newhouse
Jason Spriggs
Don Barclay

remember the moron that took an even worse guy in the first round, John Michels

I will see your John Michels and raise you a Tony Mandarich.

 

[RRyder]

I will see your John Michels and raise you a Tony Mandarich.

Drafting Tony Mandarich was the best thing that happened to the Packers franchise since Lambardi at the time.... And no. I'm not joking

Butterfly effect baby

 

[Deleted member 6794]

WHEN Bulaga misses time. FTFY.

Bulaga is always getting hurt! I feel like we have a small group of players that are ALWAYS hurt. Time to blame the training and rehab staff?!

It would probably best to blame football being a violent game, at least when talking about non quarterbacks.

I'm not overly knowledgeable about contracts and how the cap hits and everything works, but hopefully if the Packers gave him a 4 year deal, most if not all of the guaranteed money would be given after year 2.

That would be a terrible idea. The signing bonus should be the only guaranteed money if the Packers end up trading for and signing Thomas.

I’ve heard the packers being included in the Bell sweepstakes, but again I’m not sure what I’m willing to give up for a player of their caliber.

The Packers shouldn't be interested in acquiring Bell.

Do tell, what did you see? Please provide your analysis of Spriggs' play in the game. I haven't been able to rewatch the game. I was at a party and unable to pay close attention.

Spriggs was terrible, in addition to struggling in pass protection he had two penalties as well. Hopefully Bulaga will be able to play on Sunday.

 

[James from IL]

I mean... yes.. football is a violent game and injuries happen, but not every player is hurt every season for extended periods like Bulaga! But I'll give it to you.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I mean... yes.. football is a violent game and injuries happen, but not every player is hurt every season for extended periods like Bulaga!

I agree that Bulaga seems to be more injury-prone than most NFL players. I don't feel the need to blame it on the training staff though.

 

[James from IL]

I was semi making a joke, but at the same time, we do tend to have 2 or 3 injury prone players on our roster with recurring injuries every season. At some point you can ask what the rehab group is doing right? Idk.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

The Packers shouldn't be interested in acquiring Bell.

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This makes no sense. He's 26 years old. You trade a 2nd round pick and promise you won't franchise him after the season. Then you let him walk, he signs a massive deal with some other team the Packers gets a comp 3rd round pick. So, you moved back in the draft by 30 picks for a year of having the best RB in the NFL on a cheap deal. Why again is this a bad thing?

 

[Mondio]

cheap deal? in what world is 14.x million a cheap deal. Trade a 2nd to get back a 3rd?

 

[Dantés]

This makes no sense. He's 26 years old. You trade a 2nd round pick and promise you won't franchise him after the season. Then you let him walk, he signs a massive deal with some other team the Packers gets a comp 3rd round pick. So, you moved back in the draft by 30 picks for a year of having the best RB in the NFL on a cheap deal. Why again is this a bad thing?

I think it's a supremely risky thing. I do not like the trend in Bell's workload and efficiency. The Steelers have put a ton of work on him in recent seasons and his YPC has been coming down. If they trade a 2nd, bring him in, and he's below 4.0 YPC, then he isn't getting that huge deal, the Packers aren't getting a high comp pick, and they've turned a 2nd round pick into a partial season rental of a run down running back.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

This makes no sense. He's 26 years old. You trade a 2nd round pick and promise you won't franchise him after the season. Then you let him walk, he signs a massive deal with some other team the Packers gets a comp 3rd round pick. So, you moved back in the draft by 30 picks for a year of having the best RB in the NFL on a cheap deal. Why again is this a bad thing?

Define "cheap Deal". Bell is refusing to play right now $14.54M that the Steelers were set to pay him. Who do we cut to free the cap space?

As far as a comp pick, those pics aren't guaranteed. Gute could go out and sign a high profile FA and that would negate the comp pick the Packers would receive for Bell signing elsewhere.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

I think it's a supremely risky thing. I do not like the trend in Bell's workload and efficiency. The Steelers have put a ton of work on him in recent seasons and his YPC has been coming down. If they trade a 2nd, bring him in, and he's below 4.0 YPC, then he isn't getting that huge deal, the Packers aren't getting a high comp pick, and they've turned a 2nd round pick into a partial season rental of a run down running back.

He's 26, he's had a high workload but he's also taken a fairly lengthy break. Obviously it's risky but the offense needs something to push it to an elite enough level to overcome a bad defense if the Packers want any chance to accomplish something this season.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Define "cheap Deal". Bell is refusing to play right now $14.54M that the Steelers were set to pay him. Who do we cut to free the cap space?

See...now that's a good point! What's left on his deal after missing 4 weeks?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

See...now that's a good point! What's left on his deal after missing 4 weeks?

3/4 of his contracted amount or $10.91. However, why would he all of a sudden suit up for the Packers? The only way a team would possibly want to spend draft capital on Bell is if a new deal was worked out AND agreed to by Bell first.

I don't see it happening, nor do I want it to happen for the Packers. Bell has been a solid RB, but won't make a big enough difference to justify the draft capital or the money, IMO.

 

[Half Empty]

And Newhouse just got traded again

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

And Newhouse just got traded again

Sadly/Pathetically, I might have been fine with Marshall back in Green Bay, he can play 4 out of the 5 OL positions and might have been an upgrade over most of what we are calling "depth" right now.

Not much value to him in the Bills eyes, its being reported that they acquired a late-round draft choice in 2021 from the Panthers.

 

[Dantés]

He's 26, he's had a high workload but he's also taken a fairly lengthy break. Obviously it's risky but the offense needs something to push it to an elite enough level to overcome a bad defense if the Packers want any chance to accomplish something this season.

I realize he's young, but work load matters more than age. The Steelers gave him 27 touches/game in 2016 and his efficiency dropped significantly in 2017. Then in 2017, they gave him 25 touches/game. I don't think his efficiency is likely to get better after another incredibly heavy workload.

I don't think RB is the position is where we need to upgrade. Rodgers' knee is where we need the help.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The Packers need help in so many other places and RB is not currently one that is screaming "HELP!" Not sure why some think the Packers should throw draft capital and a ton of cap money at Bell.

Moves like the one Gute made yesterday are the ones this team still needs to make if there is any hope of a successful 2018 and beyond. Next move up.......bring in a Safety or OLB. But it won't surprise me to see the Packers resign Quinton Dial in the next few days to fill in for the loss of Wilkerson.

 

[Half Empty]

Sadly/Pathetically, I might have been fine with Marshall back in Green Bay, he can play 4 out of the 5 OL positions and might have been an upgrade over most of what we are calling "depth" right now.

Not much value to him in the Bills eyes, its being reported that they acquired a late-round draft choice in 2021 from the Panthers.

Not even close to waving a banner for him - I remember his time with the Pack. Just (I think) pointing out that the guy has been in the league since 2010 and, except for his rookie year, has played double digit games every year since. I figure there are three better choices for 'worst GB OL'.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Not even close to waving a banner for him - I remember his time with the Pack. Just (I think) pointing out that the guy has been in the league since 2010 and, except for his rookie year, has played double digit games every year since. I figure there are three better choices for 'worst GB OL'.

Well given that Newhouse was a 5th round pick, I would say he has had a pretty successful NFL career. Now a guy like Derek Sherrod, a first round pick, I would say he would go down as one of the bigger OL busts for the Packers. Yup, he broke his leg, but he wasn't that special before it happened and did nothing after it was healed.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

3/4 of his contracted amount or $10.91. However, why would he all of a sudden suit up for the Packers? The only way a team would possibly want to spend draft capital on Bell is if a new deal was worked out AND agreed to by Bell first.

I don't see it happening, nor do I want it to happen for the Packers. Bell has been a solid RB, but won't make a big enough difference to justify the draft capital or the money, IMO.

First, Bell has been an all-time great RB, not "solid". Second, he wants to hit free agency without having 400+ touches, which is why he's not playing for the Steelers. If the Packers agreed to not franchise him after this year and limit his touches, he'd probably be ok with that rather than losing more than $800,000 a week. Again, this is just a thought, Packers probably shouldn't do it if it messes up the cap too much. But to just throw the idea out as if there's no merit seems short-sighted.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

The Packers need help in so many other places and RB is not currently one that is screaming "HELP!" Not sure why some think the Packers should throw draft capital and a ton of cap money at Bell.

Moves like the one Gute made yesterday are the ones this team still needs to make if there is any hope of a successful 2018 and beyond. Next move up.......bring in a Safety or OLB. But it won't surprise me to see the Packers resign Quinton Dial in the next few days to fill in for the loss of Wilkerson.

Gute, barring signing Eric Reid, is going to be, at best, treading water with free agent signings at this point. No, the Packers aren't in desperate need at RB but I don't think anyone would argue that Bell would me a MASSIVE upgrade at RB over anyone the Packers currently have. Packers best shot at achieving something this year is going to be fielding an elite offense to compensate for a defense with an inexperienced secondary and no pass rush.

 

[Mondio]

it's not short sighted to realize that what he'll cost just this year in what's left, is pretty much every last dollar of salary cap if we can even fit him now with Breeland signing. We have a Mo Wilkerson season ender to deal with and Bulaga is already missing time. We might not be done needing to add someone to this roster. RB is the least of our concerns right now, especially with Jones just getting back from suspension. Nothing shortsighted about it.