Does anyone think Gute will pull off a big trade?

Would you like to see Gute make a trade for Chiefs cornerback Marcus Peters?

  • Yes, but for no higher than a 3rd round pick

    Votes: 7 30.4%
  • Yes, even if it takes a 2nd round pick

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Yes, no matter the compensation

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • No, not for a 3rd round pick

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • No, not even if he can be had for a 4th or 5th round pick

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Yes, but only if he commands a 4th round pick or later

    Votes: 5 21.7%

  • Total voters
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So the chiefs got a 4th in 2018 while giving up their 6th and a 2nd in 2019. However thinking about it I don't think Gute had a chance even had he offered more because I'm thinking that Peters was only willing to play in California. Sounds plausible to me so im going with it otherwise huge mistake by Packers front office in not offering something slightly better than that steal of a deal for the Rams.


Just to clarify, the Chiefs get the 4th this year and the 2nd in 2019 while the Rams get Peters and the 6th this year. I know you meant that and I had seen it before but if I hadn't I could have taken it to mean the Chiefs gave up a 6th rounder and the 2nd rounder in 2019 from the way it was written. Common sense also should make it clearer but you know how some people are. Just wanted to make sure it was clear.
 
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According to Ian Rapoport only two teams inquired about trading for Peters which leads me to believe the Packers weren't the other one.

Was the other team the 49ers, I had read the browns and the 49ers were the other 2 teams that were trying to get Peters and the browns apparently denied that report.
 

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When the revolution comes, people will cut off their left hand for this stuff. Unless of course that's the hand they use, but that's not the point. TP is worth more than gold when you find yourself with none
 

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When the revolution comes, people will cut off their left hand for this stuff. Unless of course that's the hand they use, but that's not the point. TP is worth more than gold when you find yourself with none
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Think we could get a 3rd from the Browns for Cobb and a 5th?

Nope.

From the outside, the perception would be the same: Cobb is over priced. Worse, he's only got one year left on his deal.

So you give up a 3rd to get him. Now you've got to re-sign him to make the trade worth it.

When you trade for a player, you're also trading for the contract. In Cobb's case, you don't trade for him. If you want him, wait a year and just pay him. No need to give up the picks.

I wouldn't be surprised if his value, right now today, is about a 6th rounder. Tops.
 

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kc settled for draft picks huh. if that's all it took you'd think the Packers would have been in on it. that's not a good sign.

Yeah. And the guy that drafted him and has a crap load of picks had zero interest in him too...... Strange
 

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The Packers currently don't have enough quality depth at any position to trade away a player.



I don't believe any other team is interested in trading for Cobb because of him being set to earn $9 million this season.
I read a article pointing out wr Landry from Miami was franchise tagged. But Miami is 7 mil over now with his 16mil salary... they want a 2/3 rounder for him in trade...one year deal...

They mention Cobb as a cheaper option for the teams who want Landry, but don't want the 16MIL salary. For 9 mil, and a 3/4/5th rounder, he could be had...or so the article leads us to think.
 
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I read a article pointing out wr Landry from Miami was franchise tagged. But Miami is 7 mil over now with his 16mil salary... they want a 2/3 rounder for him in trade...one year deal...

They mention Cobb as a cheaper option for the teams who want Landry, but don't want the 16MIL salary. For 9 mil, and a 3/4/5th rounder, he could be had...or so the article leads us to think.

Once again, I highly doubt any team is interested in trading for Cobb with his current contract. The same is most likely true for Landry as well.
 
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Yeah. And the guy that drafted him and has a crap load of picks had zero interest in him too...... Strange
He probably knows that you can't lock him in a cell all week, let him out to play man coverage all day on Sunday, while keeping a tranquilizer gun locked and loaded on the sidelines just in case.
 
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Once again, I highly doubt any team is interested in trading for Cobb with his current contract. The same is most likely true for Landry as well.
I would trade Cobb straight up for Landry with the proviso Landry would agree to a long term deal in advance, then I'd release Nelson to help pay for it, and then I'd draft high for a WR deep threat to go 3 across.

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Miami would probably not agree.
 

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I would trade Cobb straight up for Landry with the proviso Landry would agree to a long term deal in advance, then I'd release Nelson to help pay for it, and then I'd draft high for a WR deep threat to go 3 across.

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Miami would probably not agree.

Landry might not either, agree to the terms of a new contract.

Miami is shopping him.

Landry's side was originally trying to negotiate a four-year, $58 million deal, but it's unclear if those terms have changed.

The original stipulations for a trade would be two first-round draft picks, according to a report, but the Dolphins are now willing to take less, such as a low second- or high third-round pick.

After what they just payed Adams, I don't see the Packers as being in any kind of conversation to trade for and pay Landry the kind of money he is asking for.
 
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After what they just payed Adams, I don't see the Packers as being in any kind of conversation to trade for and pay Landry the kind of money he is asking for.

The Packers could make it work by trading away Cobb, releasing Nelson as well as structure Landry's deal in a similar way to Adams'.
 

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Didn't we already agree that nobody is going to be very interested in Cobb? :)
Without a restructured deal, I find it hard to fathom how any team would trade for him and his current one year contract. This is why we see so many guys cut during this time of the year. Teams are on the bad end of a contract, with no other way out but to cut bait.
 

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Good players get cut all the time for costing too much. I don't expect a trade for Cobb, but hey, sometimes teams do I guess. Outside of Cobb having a 95 catch, 1400 yard and 12+ TD season, someone taking him off our hands for a draft pick would probably the next best outcome. I don't expect either to happen
 

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While I hope that the Packers can renegotiate their contracts, my fallback with Matthews, Cobb and Nelson is the fact that yes they are potentially all being overpaid but there are some things that soften that blow.
  1. All 3 are long time vets with the Packers and know the system.
  2. We currently do not have better options on the team and going FA or rookie to replace them has no guarantees.
  3. Any one, two or all 3 of them could have a stellar year and even if it's not a Pro Bowl type of year, they will be starters and decent contributors.
  4. If any of the 3 finish their contract, letting them walk in 2019 potentially gives us a compensatory pick.
Sure we can save a few million dollars with each guy, when you consider what it's going to cost to replace them, but how sure are we that their replacements are going to be better or worth that savings? We saw what happened when the Packers let Cook walk and replaced him with Mo Bennett. All 3 of these guys are known commodities and contrary to what some think, all 3 are actually capable of having an upside.
 
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Yeah. And the guy that drafted him and has a crap load of picks had zero interest in him too...... Strange
He probably knows that you can't lock him in a cell all week, let him out to play man coverage all day on Sunday, while keeping a tranquilizer gun locked and loaded on the sidelines just in case.
he hasn't done anything bad. he's a maturing player, going into the 4th year of his rookie deal with a 5th year option (so that means he'd be cheap for the next two seasons), he's a top 5 cb, a shutdown cb, and he's not close to being in his prime yet. i thought we were in win now mode. again...not a good sign.
 
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After what they just payed Adams, I don't see the Packers as being in any kind of conversation to trade for and pay Landry the kind of money he is asking for.
In my scenario, I dumped both Nelson's and Cobb's salaries. Two highly paid receivers and a cheap rookie is an appropriate allocation for an offense that lives and dies on the pass.

It's a financially doable scenario from the Packer side. I just don't think Miami would be interested in Cobb under his current deal.
 
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