Demarious Randall

[Vrill]

Did you look at those clips? You quoted the thread with the link, for gosh sakes. He arm tackles or goes for the ankles on every play. Do you believe the stats or what's in front of you?

106 tackles. Him leading ASU's D in tackles speaks for itself.

We can sit here and spin our tires on this all night long. But fact of the matter is that hes our guy. We picked him. Hes gonna be a CB here for us. It also shows that what "fans" want and what the "Front Office" wants are usually two different things.

And sorry, but I trust TT's judgement over yours or any other "armchair experts"

On to round 2 and 3.

 

[HardRightEdge]

We can sit here and spin our tires on this all night long. But fact of the matter is that he's our guy.

Then just say that and be done with it instead of claiming he's something he isn't.

 

[Vrill]

Then just say that and be done with it instead of claiming he's something he isn't.

106 tackles. He was their leading tackler last season. It sounds to me like you're the one claiming he's something he isn't. Not me.

Want to say anything else on the subject Mr "armchair expert"? lol

 

[rodell330]

Lol watch him turn Into the next Nick Collins after we finally replace Burnett... I remember this same type of reaction when Collins got drafted. But seriously it was a head scratcher but it confirms a couple things... Matthews will be inside a lot next year..and Goodson isn't the guy they want at the dime or nickle spot. Corners drafted in the first usually play right away.

 

[SoonerPack]

I love the pick and fully expected all the Ted is an idiot garbage. This kid is a corner that was forced to play safety. Todd Graham, ASU HC and former Tulsa HC, places extreme value on safety in his defensive scheme and wanted the kid there for his ball skills. I live in a suburb of Tulsa, Broken Arrow, and went to many Tulsa Hurricane games when Graham was coaching there and they aren't kidding when they say he puts a major emphasis on safety. If you watch film on the kid you see him at the LOS a bunch and he plays just like a corner. Mayock RAVED about his change of direction skills and the fact he used to play centerfield has contributed to his obvious ball skills. Mayock ran some tape on NFLN after the pick and his footwork and hip flip were damn near flawless. Mike M doesn't project bums and reaches to go #20 to Phiily as he did with Randall. The tackling thing has me a tad confused. One sentence you read how he is a "willing tackler" and while he doesn't deliver the "kill shot" he gets his man to the ground. The next sentence speaks to his lack of tackling prowess. I suppose he got pushed into 106 guys last year or something? This kid has a knack for big plays, 4.4 speed, great ball skills and according to Mayock some of the best secondary feet in the draft so I am more than fine with the pick and to be honest the more I read the better I like it. It was the 30th pick in a rather mundane draft so what did you expect? I wanted a LB but that doesn't mean we won't get one or this kid isn't a good player. This kid will play immediately and I think he is going to end up surprising many of you. Go watch some tape on the kid and I think you are going to be smiling when it's over. Another poster hit it on the head earlier with the "I have never heard of him so he sucks" mentality being on full display (not necessarily here) and it is tired and predictable. We need help in the secondary and just got one of the highest ranked guys in that position group so relax, sit back and crack a coldie or 2. In Ted this guy trusts...

Oh yeah, last year the Corey Linsley pick got a C grade last and the Carl Bradford pick got an A. The draft is a crapshoot as we all know and Ted and Co. see something special in this kid so why not give him a shot. Also, I can't find an real injuries in his past which is always comforting. I am looking forward to another fruitful day tomorrow so good night and as always G P G!

 

[Pack-12]

I finally found him. A 6th round safety project. Hope TT knows something here.

Did you actually pay money for this supposed draft guide? I sure hope not for your sake.

 

[Vrill]

Lol watch him turn Into the next Nick Collins after we finally replace Burnett... I remember this same type of reaction when Collins got drafted. But seriously it was a head scratcher but it confirms a couple things... Matthews will be inside a lot next year..and Goodson isn't the guy they want at the dime or nickle spot. Corners drafted in the first usually play right away.

We can still get a good ILB in round 2. Its why i'm cool with this Randall pick.

 

[Carl]

Lol watch him turn Into the next Nick Collins after we finally replace Burnett... I remember this same type of reaction when Collins got drafted. But seriously it was a head scratcher but it confirms a couple things... Matthews will be inside a lot next year..and Goodson isn't the guy they want at the dime or nickle spot. Corners drafted in the first usually play right away.

You know they can draft ILBs with their other picks, right?

We can't make any conclusions about the position after round 1.

 

[mradtke66]

What does "double headed nickel" even mean?

You realize it's called "nickel" because there are 5 defensive backs, right? That evolved into the 5th defensive back to be called simply, the "nickel back," or just simply, "the nickel."

Unless you're calling him the Dime back?

 

[Favre>Rodgers259]

I too never heard of him, but when I did my personal draft board, I never considered Ss because I assumed we would go for a true corner. We lost Tramon Williams and Davon House(who I believe could start for most teams; starting for the Jags now), this was a need pick. Darby was there, Collins was there. But TT doesn't go for character guys and Collins could slide to the 3rd honestly. But since Randall also played S, it adds depth throughout the secondary. In TT I trust.

I could care less about my CB making 100+ tackles because that means the opposing QB is having all day back there and the floodgates are open on the line.

 

[Favre>Rodgers259]

"Double Headed Nickel" refers to players who in the Nickel can be a LB and a DB at the same time. Being that Randall was a S he should have no problem coming down into the box for run support and but also win the matchup on slot WRs or RBs.

 

[SoonerPack]

Big overreach. He had one year of experience at D1 football. Pick reminds me of the Khyrie Thornton pick from last year.

Brutally inaccurate post on multiple fronts. 1) Top ranked players (#1 by a few scouts) at important positions going #30 isn't a overreach let alone a big one and 2) He played 24 D1 games as he missed 3 games early on in the '13 campaign never missing a game after that. You don't like the player or the pick, I get it. With that said the only overreach is the level of vitriol you heaped on this pick. Also, the Thornton pick was in the 3rd and last time I checked his career isn't over just yet. The glass and the amount of water will be ever present. It's just a matter of deciding how much water you see...

 

[Vrill]

I too never heard of him, but when I did my personal draft board, I never considered Ss because I assumed we would go for a true corner. We lost Tramon Williams and Davon House(who I believe could start for most teams; starting for the Jags now), this was a need pick. Darby was there, Collins was there. But TT doesn't go for character guys and Collins could slide to the 3rd honestly. But since Randall also played S, it adds depth throughout the secondary. In TT I trust.

I could care less about my CB making 100+ tackles because that means the opposing QB is having all day back there and the floodgates are open on the line.

Yep, that is what makes this pick **** to me. Randall is "Scheme/Position Flexible" - He can line up and play all over the secondary.

 

[Favre>Rodgers259]

Exactly, who remembers the Miami game when Shields/Williams both went down and it took some Rodgers magic to win the game? In that same scenario you would have Hayward/Randall and Burnett/Clinton-Dix and still be formidable.

 

[Vrill]

What I'm curious about, is if he'll be our boundary corner? Meaning take Williams spot? Is that the plan? And just keep Casey in the slot? Or will Randall be asked to be our slot corner? Or?

Randall most certainly has a boundary CB build and skill set.

 

[Favre>Rodgers259]

Hyde and Hayward will probably be the starters and I think depending on how he does in camp and preseason determines the final order. Keep in mind the Draft isn't over, I like Darby and Williams who I thought were both 1st Round talents along with the sliding Collins. Rowe, Shaw, and Grant could possibly fall to us in the 3rd-5th. There is some value in the later rounds that could push current corners out of a job.

 

[SoonerPack]

This is one of the most glowing reports/videos I found on him. Again, you may not like the pick but to say this kid was a mid-round guy is just nonsense. I think arguing this point only "feeds the animals" and I am done with that crap after this post. Let me clarify something. I am not crushing those of you who aren't ecstatic with the pick whatsoever. There is scratching your head or maybe wishing a different route were taken and I get that. To each their own. However the whole "who the hell is this guy" and "we could of had this guy as a UDFA" or my personal favorite "I didn't even see him in my draft preview...from 1994" nonsense is tired, intellectually lazy, troll-like drivel that needs to go to a vikings board or something. But that's just me. As promised here's a video of a couple guys who typically only watch bowling but decided to break tape on some scrub from a DIII school...enjoy.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...2015-scouting-report-grade-for-packers-rookie

 

[Vrill]

A lot of teams and Front Offices were high on Randall. The more and more I hear about him, the more and more I am excited about this pick.

 

[Vrill]

I just saw where the Patriots were set to draft Randall, LOL. Too bad for them!

 

[Favre>Rodgers259]

I just saw where the Patriots were set to draft Randall, LOL. Too bad for them!

Had Belichick gotten him instead, the whole world would have said "Future Pro Bowler for sure".

 

[Vrill]

Had Belichick gotten him instead, the whole world would have said "Future Pro Bowler for sure".

Well, hes kind of a "Patriots" type player. Hes a swiss army knife and can play multiple positions. The Pats and Billy B love those kinds of players.

Anyway, I seen it on a Patriots forum.

 

[OldSchool101]

I agree with Sooner.. although I personally liked the 31st pick at ILB better and now I gotta hear my buddy Eddie (NO fan) rub it in.. I trust Ted. He's done a good job overall and sometimes our perception is a bit tainted because he's considering the big picture and we don't have all the facts in front of us. There's a platoon of coaches who have input in these choices and TT apparently got really good feedback.
I also like that he has some KR/PR and success on special teams coverage. He seems like an all around great athlete with a lot of upside. Yeah, yeah. I would've like to have seen a bit more height here also. But I think this kid is a solid pick.
Now let's go get Benardrick

 

[Vrill]

I knew who Randall was before the draft, but I didn't think he'd be on our radar. When we picked him, I was shocked for that fact alone because "Randall and Packers" wasn't in my vocabulary and I have doubts it was for any other Packer fans. However, the more I read about this guy the more I love this pick. I'm happy with it. He gives our secondary even more range and speed and can play any position. It was a need pick with good value.

I'm not worried about our secondary at all anymore honestly. Now we need to draft an ILB and DT.

 

[Vrill]

TT's comments on the Randall pick:

http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/n...-thompson-discusses-packers-pick-of-damarious

• We feel fortunate we were able to get him that late.
• Good ball skills, heady, he's a good player.
• For some time now we've had him pretty high up on our board. The more you go back and look, he's just a good football player...we took a very good football player and we took him at a place that was very reasonable in terms of cost.
• There wasn't much conversation when it got to be our pick.
• Took a few, couple of teams were wanting to move back up at the end of the round. Obviously, we didn't do anything...quite frankly, some of the trade proposals to us were a little bit skewed in the other team's favor.
• I think he's got really good ball skills, he's got kind of a knack for catching the ball. He's capable of punt returns, he's played center field in junior college, which I think is a marvelous trait to have as a defensive back.
• It was told to me that he would have been their best corner, based on what was told to me (by the Sun Devils' coaches), their defense, the safety play is so important and crucial to the play of their defense that he had to play inside.

Its hard to not be excited about this pick. At least for me.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

All indications are that he was the best player at his position, and you don't often get guys like that at #30. Good cover skills, and also a guy that can contribute on special teams. I'll wait to see how this pans out, but for now I'm optimistic.

Oh, and for those passing out grades 10 seconds after the pick is announced.......seriously?