Bucks 2024-25 Season Thread

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The team has been playing really well heading into the playoffs. I'm not convinced putting Lillard back in is a good idea, but if the Drs say he's ready, he'll play. DVT is very serious, but the docs won't put him out there unless there is near-zero risk.

A win on the road to get things started would be big. They're gonna have to win one of the road games so may as well start now.
The Bucks have won like, 8 or 9 in row to end out the season and I'm just wondering out loud if that is because they're a better "team" without Lillard? Anyway, I'd love to see them blow out Indiana in 4 just because Haliburton is an Oshkosh kid ... and he's kind of had his way with the Bucks and he does gloat about it too.
 
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I got to see the guy play when I was in high school - JFK Prep played in my hometown and I remember the hub-bub surrounding this guy. I didn't play HS BB beyond frosh year because our coach ran a very controlled BORING game and I too was influenced by Pete Maravich ( I was all "score" but would be fouled out halfway through the 3rd - yeah, I was a hacker who preferred football). The long hair would NOT have cut it where I went to school. We had what we called an "Industrial League" sponsored by the Athletic Association for those of us who run 'n' gun, hacking, behind the back and between the legs passing ... you know, the FUN game.... and, floppy hair gotta have the floppy hair which drove my Dad nuts.

Anyway, all I remember about that particular game was that his team mates all just seemed to stand around because it was Mickey's game. Back in the day, we called guys like Crowe "ball hogs"...he'd take the in-bound, dribble the length of the court and inevitably shoot - it was almost like watching the Harlem Globetrotters - you almost could predict how any one possession was going to end.
This is exactly the point I was making about our coach and watching guys who get the ball hog title whether earned or not. This is even the problem with the Bucks, with Giannis and Lillard.
 
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The Bucks have won like, 8 or 9 in row to end out the season and I'm just wondering out loud if that is because they're a better "team" without Lillard? Anyway, I'd love to see them blow out Indiana in 4 just because Haliburton is an Oshkosh kid ... and he's kind of had his way with the Bucks and he does gloat about it too.
Exactly the point I was making about sometimes subtractions become a positive. Without Lillard, players were able to play their game and make their marks. With him back, they end up being sent to the bench getting clean up minutes. With any luck, he won't get a lot of floor time and it will give guys a chance to make an impact on the floor.
 

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I didn't watch any of the game, but just looked at the Box Score. Kuzma with 22 minutes and ZERO points? Prince, 20 minutes, ZERO points. :eek:

Giannis scored 36, Even if he scored 50, it doesn't change the outcome of this game.
 
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It all begins with the guy running the team from the sidelines. Then it gets worse. Especially when he makes the decision that it's going to be a one-man-show and everyone else can clean up the scraps. They didn't have a chance, and not once did they play defense throughout the entire game. They should have lost by 40.

Clean sweep, front office, coaches, and star players. Time to start over with a new culture. Probably should be new ownership too..
 

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Your top 6, Giannis, Brook, Kuzma, Prince, Porter, and Rollins shot 1-15 from 3 pt land, and 2 starters went scoreless... Embarrassing start to the Playoffs.
 

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If the Bucks get blown out again in Game 2, if they haven't already, I can see them emotionally checking out for the final 2 games.
 
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I'm finding more writers are seeing what I have with Rivers and his poor lineup structuring. He seems unwilling to use the productive lineup the Bucks do have available on the floor, favoring more of a forced matchup philosophy which his detracting from the defense, and putting players in poor situations on rotations because of demands created by the decisions. When you start hearing about it from people like Shaq, Barkley, and Perkins, you realize that what you saw wasn't just in your own mind but able to be seen by others who know the intricacies of the game at a higher level. Doc is the majority of the problem on the Bucks sideline because of his stubborn approach to using his theoretical best matchup lineup versus the opposition instead of his most productive and best defensive lineup.

The best starting lineup the Bucks can use, and substitute around it, is as follows. Giannis, Portis, Trent, Porter, Rollins. Then use the sub rotations of Lopez for both Giannis & Portis, Kuzma at the #3, and mix it up with Connaughton, Prince, and Jackson to rotate singularly into one of the #1 through #3 spots on the floor, at the 3rd level, to maintain fresh legs on the top 8. When you play a team like the Pacers, your legs make the difference, and the reality is the Bucks don't have that kind of leg strength to compete for 4 quarters without using their most productive lineup to insure they can have solid runs in the paint that can build lead, or hack into and destroy leads by the other team. Incidentally, I believe that would be our best defensive lineups as well, and Kuzma's utilization would be more effective, and his shooting numbers would go up.

In the NBA, it's no longer productive for a team to rely on matchups, because when you do, you're essentially telling the other team that you are willing to play their game, not your own. You have to establish at the start of the game that you intend to dominate them with your starting lineup, then allow those starters to refresh their legs, one at a time, not with wholesale changes. This means that you don't wait until there's 3 minutes left to go in the first quarter before you start making changes. You need to start when you're 4 or 5 minutes in, to shake up the opposition's decisions on how they can best matchup against you, not the opposite.

Doc fails miserably at this. He's so into his own personal beliefs on what works and seems to think he's so much brighter than the minds on the other team, or even his own assistants. To me, he's always been a failure because of his lack of understanding that his evaluations are not the criteria as to how well a team plays together, but the chemistry that binds the players together out there when they are on the floor together.

But that's just my opinion, and I never have, nor will be, an NBA coach. The Bucks need to steal one tonight in Indiana. They need to show everyone they're still a better team than the Pacers. Lose this one and you may as well pack your tent and head home.
 

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