Brian Gutekunst new Packers GM

[GleefulGary]

Actually I'm happy. To get Thompson and Capers out of there is a dream come true. I never would of believed it a month ago that these guys would finally be gone. I see a reason for hope an optimism.

I think it just came down to age with Elliot still being pretty darn young to make a GM.

I'm just giving you a hard time man.

 

[Mondio]

I think they tested the waters with Russ Ball but then MM said he would quit and that probably put a damper to that. If A-Rod dident like him as GM that would not be good dont want to make your franchise QB mad and your HC want to leave.

I think Ball, Gute, and Wolf were all strong internal candidates. Just like we've known they were going to be for the past 2-3 seasons and gets reported every year. I think everything else reported in the past couple days was nothing but garbage from a jilted journalist without an audience with an ax to grind against an organization he's been wrong about so many times and they give him nothing. Whether Rodgers likes or dislikes and GM candidate, which I don't believe any of the reports as any more than speculation at the very, very best, is immaterial. He's not in on the decision making and as much as we'd like to think, "oh well, he's so good and we need to sign him to an extension he needs to help pick the next GM" the guys at the top aren't giving him any say in any of it. It's not how it works.

If we did in fact get to a point where Rodgers thinks he can call shots I'd be right behind the guy that sent him packing to a new team. Just like when it became apparent Favre thought he was bigger than the team, he wasn't. Nobody is. I think Gutekunst just had a good interview, has a good resume and they felt he was the right guy to lead them. It's not like he came out of nowhere. If it wasn't for a junk journalism article getting rehashed with a conspiracy theorist has been at the keyboard, nobody would be batting an eye at why he was hired or even wonder why Ball didn't get it.

They were all candidates, and there was a strong possibility one of them was going to separate themselves and get the position.

 

[gbgary]

I'm sure you'll find a way.

a lot remains to be seen. so i'm in that camp too. at least i have a positive attitude right now. i'm normally a glass is half full kind of guy about life. lately in sports though that's taken a hard hit. lol

 

[GleefulGary]

I think Ball, Gute, and Wolf were all strong internal candidates. Just like we've known they were going to be for the past 2-3 seasons and gets reported every year. I think everything else reported in the past couple days was nothing but garbage from a jilted journalist without an audience with an ax to grind against an organization he's been wrong about so many times and they give him nothing. Whether Rodgers likes or dislikes and GM candidate, which I don't believe any of the reports as any more than speculation at the very, very best, is immaterial. He's not in on the decision making and as much as we'd like to think, "oh well, he's so good and we need to sign him to an extension he needs to help pick the next GM" the guys at the top aren't giving him any say in any of it. It's not how it works.

If we did in fact get to a point where Rodgers thinks he can call shots I'd be right behind the guy that sent him packing to a new team. Just like when it became apparent Favre thought he was bigger than the team, he wasn't. Nobody is. I think Gutekunst just had a good interview, has a good resume and they felt he was the right guy to lead them. It's not like he came out of nowhere. If it wasn't for a junk journalism article getting rehashed with a conspiracy theorist has been at the keyboard, nobody would be batting an eye at why he was hired or even wonder why Ball didn't get it.

They were all candidates, and there was a strong possibility one of them was going to separate themselves and get the position.

Easily the best post on this topic.

 

[PackAttack12]

I think Ball, Gute, and Wolf were all strong internal candidates. Just like we've known they were going to be for the past 2-3 seasons and gets reported every year. I think everything else reported in the past couple days was nothing but garbage from a jilted journalist without an audience with an ax to grind against an organization he's been wrong about so many times and they give him nothing. Whether Rodgers likes or dislikes and GM candidate, which I don't believe any of the reports as any more than speculation at the very, very best, is immaterial. He's not in on the decision making and as much as we'd like to think, "oh well, he's so good and we need to sign him to an extension he needs to help pick the next GM" the guys at the top aren't giving him any say in any of it. It's not how it works.

If we did in fact get to a point where Rodgers thinks he can call shots I'd be right behind the guy that sent him packing to a new team. Just like when it became apparent Favre thought he was bigger than the team, he wasn't. Nobody is. I think Gutekunst just had a good interview, has a good resume and they felt he was the right guy to lead them. It's not like he came out of nowhere. If it wasn't for a junk journalism article getting rehashed with a conspiracy theorist has been at the keyboard, nobody would be batting an eye at why he was hired or even wonder why Ball didn't get it.

They were all candidates, and there was a strong possibility one of them was going to separate themselves and get the position.

All I will say is that if you don't believe that the thoughts/opinions of the franchise QB, who will one day be a 1st ballot hall of famer, aren't at least taken into consideration and weighed into the process, I think maybe you're the one who doesn't understand how it works.

 

[VegasPacker]

Good move. Anyone but Ball.

My thoughts exactly!! Ball has his niche and his role on this team....GM should NEVER be one of them!

Love this hire....I didn't care if it was Wolf or BG, just did not want Ball ******** up everything.

 

[GBkrzygrl]

Glad this happened and happened fast.

I'm glad they did it quickly...just a little surprised that it happened this fast. I honestly don't know too much about Gutekunst.

I know he has been a long time scout and was looked on favorably in other GM openings. Everybody happy now?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Bring in Fangio on Tuesday, when he is free to interview, hand the defense over to him and lets start talking about players for 2018!

Out of all the new hirings, my feeling is a new DC is THE most important to go outside the organization, as well as what this team really needed to finally get better. I really don't want to see the Packers stay within by hiring Perry or Whitt. Sure, I haven't a clue what either of those guys could bring as a DC, but I can't help but think, not that much different than we already saw from Capers.

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

Rumor has it, they have found their DC. He plans on running the "4-5" and make the Defense great again!

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I can't find the vomit button.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I can't find the vomit button.

Maybe we can get Robdog to add this one for 2018?

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[GBkrzygrl]

I read he blew away Murphy and McCarthy Friday in the interview. Must mean they plan on MM going forward,and that may help us sign a good DC sooner rather than later.

Where did you read it?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Where did you read it?

Although you didn't ask me Here is one source.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/...cle_ea3ab01d-9b17-50fe-874b-ceab26d5e1eb.html

 

[Mondio]

All I will say is that if you don't believe that the thoughts/opinions of the franchise QB, who will one day be a 1st ballot hall of famer, aren't at least taken into consideration and weighed into the process, I think maybe you're the one who doesn't understand how it works.

You're right I don't. I do know how it goes in other places as I've been involved in quite a few instances like this. If they would have felt Ball or Wolf or Gute was the man for the job, they weren't going to float reports and see how their QB was going to react or the fans or anybody else. They were going to hire the guy they felt was the best to lead them.

 

[ls1bob]

Where did you read it?

https://m.cheeseheadtv.com/blog/packers-make-brian-gutekunst-the-teams-next-general-manager-706

 

[PackAttack12]

You're right I don't. I do know how it goes in other places as I've been involved in quite a few instances like this. If they would have felt Ball or Wolf or Gute was the man for the job, they weren't going to float reports and see how their QB was going to react or the fans or anybody else. They were going to hire the guy they felt was the best to lead them.

Bottom line: if the team had reason to believe that a decision would irritate Rodgers to the point of alienating him, the possibility of that happening wouldn't have been brushed to the side without a thought or without any consideration.

 

[Guacamole]

ok, pronounce his last name for me

 

[BrokenArrow]

I good with this. Did NOT want Russ Ball as the GM.

I really don't care if Wolf is furious. He can leave if he wants to. Obviously the Packers felt that Gutekunst was a better fit.

Gutekunst has far more experience. That's why he's the better choice.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

ok, pronounce his last name for me

Is this a trick question?

"BK" of course.

Gooot-a-Kunst, if I had to guess.

 

[RepStar15]

I know absolutely nothing about this guy, but I’m happy than someone other than Ted Thompson is calling our #14 pick in the season who could easily be the 3rd-5th best defensive player in the draft with the QB shark tank likely to strike in the top 10.

 

[GleefulGary]

I know absolutely nothing about this guy, but I’m happy than someone other than Ted Thompson is calling our #14 pick in the season who could easily be the 3rd-5th best defensive player in the draft with the QB shark tank likely to strike in the top 10.

The last defensive player TT drafted in the first round is probably our best or second best defensive player, and one of the top interior DL in the league. Can we please stop with the idea that TT was a bad drafter? His problems had more to do with free agency and contracts.

 

[longtimefan]

I do wonder if Packer players, coaches, etc. ever visit our "little world", just to get a pulse for what some of the inmates are thinking.

There were a few..

Although you didn't ask me Here is one source.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/...cle_ea3ab01d-9b17-50fe-874b-ceab26d5e1eb.html

I think I mentioned it as well.. But what do I know lol

 

[Bagadeez04]

I'm so happy with this hire. Don't know much about him but seems he has the credentials and experience to deserve a shot.

Really I'm hoping since he's a younger guy and new to this job that he is open to all available options for improving this roster.

There was a lot i liked about Thompson, but he was so incapable of altering his approach due to changing realities in the state of the roster, I feel that ultimately he was his own worst enemy. Also I think after as much time as he's been in that position, usually is just time for a change.

 

[Mondio]

Bottom line: if the team had reason to believe that a decision would irritate Rodgers to the point of alienating him, the possibility of that happening wouldn't have been brushed to the side without a thought or without any consideration.

the decision was made for the current and future franchise in mind. And to date, I still have not seen a single thing that would lead me to believe Rodgers concerned himself or interjected himself into the decision at all.

Been around long enough to know that any group of people approaching a hiring for the Packers or Kwik Trip and their biggest question influencing their decision isn't "how can this person attract better employees find them, bring them on board and build this team/company". But along the lines of "will this guy **** off this employee" is setting the entire company up for failure.

They thought Gute was the best choice. That's the bottom line. If they'd have thought ball was the best choice, he would have been too. And if Rodgers wanted to alienate himself over that, I'd hope they trade him tomorrow. But he's not that unprofessional or stupid. He didn't get to where he is by worrying about anything other than what he needs to do to get better.

Anyway, that's the last I have to say about this nonstory that's already received far too much play.

 

[XPack]

They were all candidates, and there was a strong possibility one of them was going to separate themselves and get the position.

I still don't get what Gutenkust offers that Eliot doesn't. And having a better interview doesn't really make sense.

 

[longtimefan]

I still don't get what Gutenkust offers that Eliot doesn't. And having a better interview doesn't really make sense.

5 year plan.. His philosophy on free agents, draft and etc..how he meshes with Mark?

Wolf may know draft but maybe Wolf didn't have a good enough plan for the future?

Or Mark wasn't completely sold on Wolf's plan as much as Brian's?