Actual Signed Roster For 2022

[tynimiller]

I know I know. 4th-5th round seems like an afterthought at DB these days and it kind of is. I’m also not opposed getting one sooner if it’s a player who skips.

Keep in mind that we can fix part of this dilemma by adding 1 veteran CB that can play NIckleB. Then grab 1 earlier Day 3 (as I suggested) to develop behind our current group. I think we’re waiting out for the bargain bin and I think that’s wise.

Also, we could add a veteran WR, OT, TE and that changes a lot as far as draft need. Let’s face it Tyni, if we signed even a Brandon Cooks type? That would dramatically shift CB into a Day 1-2 conversation pretty quickly. If we had signed a veteran at RT? Huge difference in need there.

I've said the days of Sullivan in GB may not be done. He is the PERFECT type of guy to keep tabs on, and if unsigned the night the draft ends you sign.

 

[thequick12]

Id like the Packers to trade for Washington WR Terry McLaurin and resign MVS if it can be done at a reasonable number and i think it can. Id also be into signing Julio Jones. Hes 33 but I believe he can still be a star with an elite qb like Rodgers.

The McLaurin thing probably a pipe dream but MVS and Julio is realistic. I dont think either is going to get more than 10 m per on any deal. And perhaps significantly less

If they had Lazard. Cobb, MVS, Jones, Rodgers, and a wr selected in 1st or 2nd round like Jameson Williams, Chris Olave, or Christian Watson id feel pretty good about Rodgers weapons

 

[tynimiller]

Id like the Packers to trade for Washington WR Terry McLaurin and resign MVS if it can be done at a reasonable number and i think it can. Id also be into signing Julio Jones. Hes 33 but I believe he can still be a star with an elite qb like Rodgers.

The McLaurin thing probably a pipe dream but MVS and Julio is realistic. I dont think either is going to get more than 10 m per on any deal. And perhaps significantly less

If they had Lazard. Cobb, MVS, Jones, Rodgers, and a wr selected in 1st or 2nd round like Jameson Williams, Chris Olave, or Christian Watson id feel pretty good about Rodgers weapons

MVS isn't coming back. He is going to get more money due to his speed and high ceiling potential (not realized yet) than I am betting Gute and GB want to do. McLaurin would COST A TON to even get Washington to not hang up on you.

Julio is an excellent veteran, yet still very productive, WR I'm 100% in support of adding. He isn't going to break the bank given his age, adds an instant experience and productive guy in the room for Rodgers and allows you to pair him hopefully with a HIGH prospect in the draft. It would be one of the perfect rooms for a WR to learn in with Rodgers slinging it to you and Julio (one of the best outside WR in last decade) plus Cobb (an excellent interior/slot WR) to watch, listen and learn from.

 

[Schultz]

When is the last time Julio Jones had a good season? Not good game, good season?

 

[tynimiller]

When is the last time Julio Jones had a good season? Not good game, good season?

The man has never really dropped off on production when in at all hardly. He has played only 19 games the last two years (2 games more than a normal season now) and put up 1,205 yards on 82 receptions with a 70.6% catch rate, around 14.5 ypc, and 10 yards per target.

Davante Adams hasn't played a full season since I believe since 2014...few years like last year only missed a game. I am not saying this to say Julio is interchangeable with Adams - ABSOLUTELY NOT - however, he isn't going to cost a ton and when he is out there he has still performed well with sub-Rodgers level QB play the last two years with Titans and Falcons.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Jarran Reed gonna be a good signing

Agreed and the Rock agrees too. This is some really great footage of Reed and just how instinctive he is. I am super impressed.

Rock Report: Getting to Know Him | Jarran Reed

Jarran Reed brings a strong all-around game to the Green Bay Packers. Larry McCarren provides examples.

www.packers.com

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Id like the Packers to trade for Washington WR Terry McLaurin and resign MVS if it can be done at a reasonable number and i think it can.

I like McLaurin, but this is currently really a bad market in my opinion to go after a guy that WFT would no doubt want a ton of draft capital for and McLaurin would no doubt want to be paid close to what Adams and Hill just set the WR market at. So pass for me.

As far as MVS. Just a hunch, but since the Packers and other teams don't seem to be in any hurry to sign him, I have to guess he wants too much. I don't think he is worth more than $3-5M/year, but that might be confirmational bias of my thinking he is just a one trick pony and without AR, hardly even that.

Julio, I would sign in a minute, if it was a deal that reflects his injury history and age. Give him something like what OBJ got. A small base, loaded with individual incentives. Personally, I am not a fan of "$1 Million if your team goes to the SB." That sounds too much like one player was the reason the whole team went to the SB."

 

[Firethorn1001]

MVS to Chief for 3y/$30M. Seems like they could replace his skill set for cheaper.

 

[tynimiller]

MVS to Chief for 3y/$30M. Seems like they could replace his skill set for cheaper.

I really don't think people understand the blow the top off ability of just flat out nasty fast speed. I am a little shocked at $10M/year but like all contracts that doesn't tell the story and it very well could be structured more like a one or two.

 

[Ogsponge]

Seeing a lot of twitter reports of MVS to the chiefs, 3 years, 30 million, 18 guaranteed

 

[Ogsponge]

I really don't think people understand the blow the top off ability of just flat out nasty fast speed. I am a little shocked at $10M/year but like all contracts that doesn't tell the story and it very well could be structured more like a one or two.

Ya people really underestimate the value of speed. Plus MVS was also starting to show signs of improved hands. The question is how is the route running, or at least that is what it seemed like to me

 

[Mondio]

I was hoping to have him back, oh well, onward.

 

[tynimiller]

Ya people really underestimate the value of speed. Plus MVS was also starting to show signs of improved hands. The question is how is the route running, or at least that is what it seemed like to me

He is also an unselfish WR willing to block and if it weren't for Lazard I'd argue was our best blocking WR on the team...KC is going to want that same mentality as that offense is multi-faceted and aside from being a decoy he will be blocking other times.

 

[Magooch]

MVS deal is 18m in first 2 years, option to hit up to 36m in incentives.

 

[OldSchool101]

I've said the days of Sullivan in GB may not be done. He is the PERFECT type of guy to keep tabs on, and if unsigned the night the draft ends you sign.

I swear I posted resign Sully in another thread before I read this. Lol
Obviously don’t overspend that’s why thats a good idea to wait it out some

 

[tynimiller]

I swear I posted resign Sully in another thread before I read this. Lol

I think Gute is just waiting to see what happens draft wise, there are a TON of worse options out there than a low contracted Sully for another year. Shoot Kevin King even could become a BARGAIN bottom guy if he continues to go unsigned.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

At least the signing of MVS will more than cancel out the FA signing of Jarran Reed, in the compensatory formula.

I won't miss MVS for that kind of money.

 

[David Ciembronowicz]

Just wondering, AR was purported to say he did not want to be part of a rebuild. Yet he signed, GB had to trade Adams for whatever reason and received Dp's. So now we look at an offense that frankly is not just lacking depth but questionable on the OL, WR and TE. Is this the offense AR envisioned? Certainly the fans did not. Maybe, just maybe the Pack should have also traded AR to Denver or another team and get more DP's starting over on offense. Right now, GB has little money available to get a FA, a trade would take DP's that they need and even if they did a trade where do they get the cash to pay the new player? The team is between a rock and hard place looking to hope any draftees make it; otherwise AR is playing with real unknowns in critical positions.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The team is between a rock and hard place looking to hope any draftees make it; otherwise AR is playing with real unknowns in critical positions.

Maybe, just maybe the Pack should have also traded AR to Denver or another team and get more DP's starting over on offense.

They would have had more picks had they traded Rodgers, but I believe they would have been worse off with Love and the current WR's.

 

[OldSchool101]

Just wondering, AR was purported to say he did not want to be part of a rebuild. Yet he signed, GB had to trade Adams for whatever reason and received Dp's. So now we look at an offense that frankly is not just lacking depth but questionable on the OL, WR and TE. Is this the offense AR envisioned? Certainly the fans did not. Maybe, just maybe the Pack should have also traded AR to Denver or another team and get more DP's starting over on offense. Right now, GB has little money available to get a FA, a trade would take DP's that they need and even if they did a trade where do they get the cash to pay the new player? The team is between a rock and hard place looking to hope any draftees make it; otherwise AR is playing with real unknowns in critical positions.

Glass half empty how are you.. I’m glass half full (sorry it’s how I was manufactured)
1. TE. Are we worse off talent wise? We signed Tonyan and he is reported to be ahead of schedule. Last season he was just starting to find his groove when he was lost. We 100% knew he’d miss 9 games plus playoffs. Are you guaranteeing us he’ll miss 9 games plus playoffs? Plus not make any move to help that group?

OL. The only definitive player we-verified lost thus far is Lucas Patrick (hard worker-medium tier but certainly not irreplaceable)
Several players including Newman, Runyon, Van Lanen and Hanson are all 2-3 year veterans. That’s an area you generally see some growth. It’s likely 1 of that group steps up to another plateau. Also expect an OL addition by Round 4-5 latest and possibly a top 92 overall selection or better. FA isn’t out of the possibility also so this conversation is a bit premature for both is us also.

We do know that it’s unlikely we miss as many games with high level players out. Elgton missed 9+playoffs: Bak missed 17+playoffs; Myers missed 11+playoffs; it was the worst OL injury season I can remember since #12 took over.

WR is your only legit gripe and it’s way to early to start bloodletting. Maybe get your Gutey Voodoo doll ready though. There’s an Ozzy tune called “Little Dolls” we can cue up for draft day! Talk about poking fun at someone !

 

[PikeBadger]

I think Gute is just waiting to see what happens draft wise, there are a TON of worse options out there than a low contracted Sully for another year. Shoot Kevin King even could become a BARGAIN bottom guy if he continues to go unsigned.

Sullivan had a visit in Minneapolis today.

 

[bigbubbatd]

I am really surprised people want Sullivan back. He was constantly getting beat. He didn't pass the eye test and he didn't grade out well. I would rather trust a young guy to take the next step or use a 3rd or 4th on someone than take back a guy like Sullivan.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Right now, GB has little money available to get a FA, a trade would take DP's that they need and even if they did a trade where do they get the cash to pay the new player? The team is between a rock and hard place looking to hope any draftees make it; otherwise AR is playing with real unknowns in critical positions.

I'm not sure if you're asking if the Packers should trade Rodgers now but if you do they can't because they would take an additional cap hit of nearly $40 million.

We do know that it’s unlikely we miss as many games with high level players out. Elgton missed 9+playoffs: Bak missed 17+playoffs; Myers missed 11+playoffs; it was the worst OL injury season I can remember since #12 took over.

According to Football Outsiders' Adjusted Games Lost metric (which isn't perfect by any means but the best one available in my opinion) three teams suffered even more injuries on the offensive line than the Packers last season. Other than that the Packers were pretty lucky compared to other teams aside of the tight end position.

AGL by Position 2022: Ravens Wrecked at RB/DB

J.K. Dobbins. Gus Edwards. Justice Hill. Marcus Peters. Marlon Humphrey. That's just a partial list of Baltimore players who missed all or most of the 2021 season.

www.footballoutsiders.com

 

[Schultz]

Glass half empty how are you.. I’m glass half full (sorry it’s how I was manufactured)
1. TE. Are we worse off talent wise? We signed Tonyan and he is reported to be ahead of schedule. Last season he was just starting to find his groove when he was lost. We 100% knew he’d miss 9 games plus playoffs. Are you guaranteeing us he’ll miss 9 games plus playoffs? Plus not make any move to help that group?

OL. The only definitive player we-verified lost thus far is Lucas Patrick (hard worker-medium tier but certainly not irreplaceable)
Several players including Newman, Runyon, Van Lanen and Hanson are all 2-3 year veterans. That’s an area you generally see some growth. It’s likely 1 of that group steps up to another plateau. Also expect an OL addition by Round 4-5 latest and possibly a top 92 overall selection or better. FA isn’t out of the possibility also so this conversation is a bit premature for both is us also.

We do know that it’s unlikely we miss as many games with high level players out. Elgton missed 9+playoffs: Bak missed 17+playoffs; Myers missed 11+playoffs; it was the worst OL injury season I can remember since #12 took over.

WR is your only legit gripe and it’s way to early to start bloodletting. Maybe get your Gutey Voodoo doll ready though. There’s an Ozzy tune called “Little Dolls” we can cue up for draft day! Talk about poking fun at someone !

As I agree with most of what you say I must point out that we also lost Turner on the OL.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

WOW....WTG Gute! Details of Jarren's contract. This was a great deal for the Packers!

A signing bonus and league minimum salary + incentives.

Packers use void years to keep Jarran Reed's cap number low in 2022

Jarran Reed’s cap number will be under $2 million in 2022 thanks to the Packers using void years with his one-year deal.

packerswire.usatoday.com