Actual Signed Roster For 2022

[tynimiller]

As long as they resign Rasul, this absolutely solidified an already good defense, with the final starter. It also took a lot of pressure off of trying to fill the spot in the draft and frees up one of those top 4 choices. Depending on what the Packers think of their backups at each position group, they can backfill that through the draft and some mid round picks.

What does this do for the draft? On defense, I might put S, OLB and CB at the top of my *keep an eye on a guy falling list*. Otherwise, I would literally go after offensive picks with those first 4 picks. 2 WR's, 1 OL, 1 TE. If a defensive guy that they just can't pass on, falls to them in rounds 1 or 2 and they don't like the board on offense, than obviously grab him.

I'm on board with ya Tine...if a top CB falls and the Packers are wavering on extending Jaire after this year....go for it.

So if someone asked me how the Reed signing and Rasul (declared but not disclosed yet) signings changed my "need board" it went like this:

Pre-signing
DL - MUST leave draft/FA with a guy we think can be a true #3 potential behind Clark and Lowry & a depth guy
DL - see above
(gap of pressing need)
CB - MUST find a CB3 potential guy, and CB4/5 depth guy
S - Need that future guy and #3, Amos in final year...Savage soon 5th year option will need decided on
OLB - Need that possible OLB3 and/or guy of the future
ILB - Depth behind Barnes and Campbell + special teams

Post-Signing
DL/CB - Need that 4th solid depth/contributor that will see snaps for sure first year potentially if Slaton/SJC isn't ready
S - Need that future guy and #3, Amos in final year...Savage soon 5th year option will need decided on
OLB - Need that possible OLB3 and/or guy of the future
ILB - Depth behind Barnes and Campbell + special teams

Nothing really shuffled but the MASSIVE need only beat by WR position wise has been lessoned considerably. Opening up the draft in a massive way to where if Daxton Hill (best S on board atm) is setting there say next to DeMarvin Leal (top DL on board) I give the nod over to Hill potentially early given Hill may see more snaps and a potentially larger role in year one than Leal would.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Nothing really shuffled but the MASSIVE need only beat by WR position wise has been lessoned considerably. Opening up the draft in a massive way to where if Daxton Hill (best S on board atm) is setting there say next to DeMarvin Leal (top DL on board) I give the nod over to Hill potentially early given Hill may see more snaps and a potentially larger role in year one than Leal would.

Pretty much my feeling as well. What we don't know is how some of the backup guys on defense are viewed by Gute and Co. Are some of them at the point where they could step in and play a lot of snaps or are they a year away? Just looking at the depth chart on defense, S is by far the thinnest. So I agree, if a top S is sitting there at #28, I might grab him, unless of course a stud WR is sitting there too. I do expect a S within the first 5-6 picks.

 

[tynimiller]

Pretty much my feeling as well. What we don't know is how some of the backup guys on defense are viewed by Gute and Co. Are some of them at the point where they could step in and play a lot of snaps or are they a year away? Just looking at the depth chart on defense, S is by far the thinnest. So I agree, if a top S is sitting there at #28, I might grab him, unless of course a stud WR is sitting there too. I do expect a S within the first 5-6 picks.

It still blows my mind we didn't tender Henry Black as a cheap ERFA....played 25% of the defensive snaps last season even.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

It still blows my mind we didn't tender Henry Black as a cheap ERFA....played 25% of the defensive snaps last season even.

It appears that he is still unsigned. Maybe an example of a player that we don't have the full story on? If the Packers even modestly liked him, that ERFA tag allowed them to extend him with a league minimum salary. The Packers not doing that tells me that he won't be back in GB.

 

[tynimiller]

It appears that he is still unsigned. Maybe an example of a player that we don't have the full story on? If the Packers even modestly liked him, that ERFA tag allowed them to extend him with a league minimum salary. The Packers not doing that tells me that he won't be back in GB.

Oh I agree and is another reason why Safety is really a very strong possibility with any of our first four, and even first two picks. Daxton Hill and Lewis Cine should both be there possibly at 28, and outside chance one slides to our first 2nd rounder....but also fourth Safety on my board quite likely which is Jaquan Brisker from Penn State (Pitre from Baylor outside chance)

 

[Schultz]

Can I play? My new needs list. 11 picks. FA pick ups come after the draft unless the healthy right guy at the right price appears. (Jarvis Landry)
1. WR
2. WR/OT- Depending on health of Bakh and Jenkins.
3. OT/WR
4. CB - in my world 3 CBs start which makes our depth here weaker than S-DL-ILB-Edge
5. S
6. ILB
7. Edge
8. DL-again I see only 2 IDL on the field most of the time.
9. TE
10. DB - someone with ST chops
11. OL - I wouldn't mind another guy who plays multiple spots

 

[McKnowledge]

If WR isn't the top priority heading into the draft, then someone needs their head examined. Defense and O line prospects should be allocated for the 2nd-7th round picks.

Green Bay shouldn't get cute.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If WR isn't the top priority heading into the draft, then someone needs their head examined. Defense and O line prospects should be allocated for the 2nd-7th round picks.

Green Bay shouldn't get cute.

That could change between now and the draft. But I agree, if the draft was today, I would expect 2 WR's selected in the first 5 picks. I also see a TE being taken relatively high. Gute has done a good job using the draft and free agency to build the defense, time to focus on improving the Offense for once.

 

[McKnowledge]

That could change between now and the draft. But I agree, if the draft was today, I would expect 2 WR's selected in the first 5 picks. I also see a TE being taken relatively high. Gute has done a good job using the draft and free agency to build the defense, time to focus on improving the Offense for once.

I definitely agree with expecting 2 WRs, but hard pass on a TE drafted early.

I think Tonyan will prove some sort of value this season.

Also, I really see Deguara making a leap.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I definitely agree with expecting 2 WRs, but hard pass on a TE drafted early.

I think Tonyan will prove some sort of value this season.

Also, I really see Deguara making a leap.

Tonyan might not be ready to go. So far I am very disapointed in Deguara and until he proves otherwise, he is looking like another Sternberger. With Big Dog's age and Tonyan's status, might be time to use another 3rd or 4th on a TE. The TE class doesn't look all that strong, but I like McBride, Wdyermyer and Ferguson.

 

[McKnowledge]

Tonyan might not be ready to go. So far I am very disapointed in Deguara and until he proves otherwise, he is looking like another Sternberger. With Big Dog's age and Tonyan's status, might be time to use another 3rd or 4th on a TE. The TE class doesn't look all that strong, but I like McBride, Wdyermyer and Ferguson.

Hey, ok, a 3rd or 4th rd pick I can see that. Just not those 1st rounders.

Also, side note there are some interesting UFA TEs:

Eric Ebron (28)

Blake Jarwin (27)

Maybe Jared Cook (34) on the vet minimum?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Hey, ok, a 3rd or 4th rd pick I can see that. Just not those 1st rounders.

Also, side note there are some interesting UFA TEs:

Eric Ebron (28)

Blake Jarwin (27)

Maybe Jared Cook (34) on the vet minimum?

I don't really see any TE's in this class worth a 2nd, unless it is McBride with the Packers last pick in the 2nd. Problem is, he isn't much of a blocker and seems that is what MLF's offense requires. Which is why I like Wydermyer and Ferguson probably better and I think 1 of those guys will be around come late 4th or 5th.

 

[McKnowledge]

I don't really see any TE's in this class worth a 2nd, unless it is McBride with the Packers last pick in the 2nd. Problem is, he isn't much of a blocker and seems that is what MLF's offense requires. Which is why I like Wydermyer and Ferguson probably better and I think 1 of those guys will be around come late 4th or 5th.

If that's the case, I think MLF needs to get with the times consider multiple tight end sets with 2 joker TEs and a blocker.

Tonyan and another receiving threat whether Deguara or free agent/prospect should be considered if Green Bay doesn't drastically improve the WR room.

 

[David Ciembronowicz]

Interesting info on top 60 players in upcoming draft (approx. similar on at least 4 boards by "experts"). There are 15 OL in top 60, 11 WR in top 60 and one (1) TE (listed near bottom of top 60). The balance (33 players) are CB's, Edge, LB's and a handful of DT and safeties plus (5 QB's). If GB is not going after any FA's for WR or OL then they have to draft at least 3 of WR/OL in first 2 rounds and the fourth pick (in top 59) may be a LB, CB or Edge that "fits" and has strong potential. They have to get this right, noting that the draft is often a "crap shoot", GB appears to have major concerns on OL and WR and D could use help but Offense should be 1st concern, otherwise why bring back AR.

 

[sschind]

If WR isn't the top priority heading into the draft, then someone needs their head examined. Defense and O line prospects should be allocated for the 2nd-7th round picks.

Green Bay shouldn't get cute.

I think most would agree that WR should be the top priority but what does top priority mean to you? I ask because some people seem to think that top priority means they need to draft one in the first round or with their first round pick no matter what. It seems every year some fans are upset because we didn't draft the position they thought we had to draft. That kind of thinking can get you into trouble by reaching or passing on a superior prospect who may be available.

Essentially I'm asking if you are a draft for need or BPA type guy. Most mocks are draft for need drafts which does make sense in a way because you don't know who is available to say who is the BPA but if you think WR is the top priority and say the #4 rated WR and the #2 rated DL were available. Which one would you take. I realize this might not be a good choice because most likely the #2 rated DL is rated much higher than the #4 WR so it should be a no brainer to take the DL but i think you know what I mean. What if a DL you had rated higher than your highest rated available WR do you take the higher priority guy or the higher rated.

It may not be as important this year with the extra picks which means if they want to they have many more options which have all been discussed. So I'm genuinely asking. What picks would make you blow your stack If he passed on WR in the 1st but took 2 in the second but brought in a veteran FA? What if a couple of top rated non WRs fell to 22 and then to 28?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Essentially I'm asking if you are a draft for need or BPA type guy.

I don't know if this is question only to Mr K or an open forum question. For me, you go into the draft knowing exactly what your needs are, grade them not just on urgency but on value (Contract cost in the future for a top player in that position). For instance, a need for a LT would be graded much higher than a similar need for a RG or RT. A need for a CB, would be graded higher than a safety and so on. You would also want a very good understanding of the top 100-150 or so players, which you chart by what round you would consider drafting that player in. What guys are completely off your list?

Then as the draft progresses, you watch closely where your "group is in a certain round." If the Packers have a CB ranked in the top 10 and he fell to 22, they would probably grab him, unless a position of higher need and value had a similar falling player.

I think this off season has shown GM's just how valuable WR's can be. With the contracts that Davante and Hill just got, the cost of good WR's just went up. So for me, depending on what happens between now and the draft, WR is the Packers absolute #1 need. Not addressing that in the first round would be 100% a mistake IMO. There is a pretty decent grouping of 6 or so WR's that grade out in the first round and a similar graded group in the 2nd round. It would be a mistake to wait and grab the #10 ranked WR. With 4 picks in the first 2 rounds, I would be totally on board with the Packers using 2 picks on WR's. Afterall, isn't that what they got for Davante?

 

[sschind]

I don't know if this is question only to Mr K or an open forum question. For me, you go into the draft knowing exactly what your needs are, grade them not just on urgency but on value (Contract cost in the future for a top player in that position). For instance, a need for a LT would be graded much higher than a similar need for a RG or RT. A need for a CB, would be graded higher than a safety and so on. You would also want a very good understanding of the top 100-150 or so players, which you chart by what round you would consider drafting that player in. What guys are completely off your list?

Then as the draft progresses, you watch closely where your "group is in a certain round." If the Packers have a CB ranked in the top 10 and he fell to 22, they would probably grab him, unless a position of higher need and value had a similar falling player.

I think this off season has shown GM's just how valuable WR's can be. With the contracts that Davante and Hill just got, the cost of good WR's just went up. So for me, depending on what happens between now and the draft, WR is the Packers absolute #1 need. Not addressing that in the first round would be 100% a mistake IMO. There is a pretty decent grouping of 6 or so WR's that grade out in the first round and a similar graded group in the 2nd round. It would be a mistake to wait and grab the #10 ranked WR. With 4 picks in the first 2 rounds, I would be totally on board with the Packers using 2 picks on WR's. Afterall, isn't that what they got for Davante?

I was asking more specifically to MrK as this has been discussed frequently (every year) and was wanting to get his opinion on what it meant to him. That doesn't mean other responses are not welcome.

By the way, I already know my answer. In another thread he has stated that the first 2 picks need to be WRs. That's the kind of tunnel vision can cause a GM to reach or ignore someone at another position who might be a better pick.

I think everyone knows that a pure BPA pick is very rare, especially once you get out of the top 10. On the other hand we rarely know who a particular GM thinks is the best so we really don't know. I have always said that need plays an important role in determining who is the best as in best for your team.

I like your line of thinking and I agree. I would like to see one first round pick dedicated to WR and then another on day two. Moving up only if able to keep all 5 day 1 and day 2 picks

 

[tynimiller]

Reed added to the OP, no known contract details yet.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I think everyone knows that a pure BPA pick is very rare, especially once you get out of the top 10. On the other hand we rarely know who a particular GM thinks is the best so we really don't know. I have always said that need plays an important role in determining who is the best as in best for your team.

I think Jordan Love was a perfect example of BPA. Yes, there was some perceived potential future need for a very expensive position, but Gute saw him drop and wanted him due to Love being a great value on the board. Same thing with Aaron Rodgers.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I like your line of thinking and I agree. I would like to see one first round pick dedicated to WR and then another on day two. Moving up only if able to keep all 5 day 1 and day 2 picks

Agree. I really think the Packers can find a starting WR in round 1 and a guy that will contribute his rookie year. The WR in the second or 3rd is more for the future.

 

[McKnowledge]

I was asking more specifically to Mr K as this has been discussed frequently (every year) and was wanting to get his opinion on what it meant to him. That doesn't mean other responses are not welcome.

By the way, I already know my answer. In another thread he has stated that the first 2 picks need to be WRs. That's the kind of tunnel vision can cause a GM to reach or ignore someone at another position who might be a better pick.

I think everyone knows that a pure BPA pick is very rare, especially once you get out of the top 10. On the other hand we rarely know who a particular GM thinks is the best so we really don't know. I have always said that need plays an important role in determining who is the best as in best for your team.

I like your line of thinking and I agree. I would like to see one first round pick dedicated to WR and then another on day two. Moving up only if able to keep all 5 day 1 and day 2 picks

I respect everyone's opinion on the matter.

And yes, quite frankly I think Gute should absolutely have tunnel vision when targeting WRs.

This is the top priority. I'm personally not sold on the veterans in the FA market and I think they'll remain unsigned until this summer (except Landry).

That lack of "focus" with WR has severely depleted the WR corp along with huge misses on draft picks.

To answer your question directly, I think any concrete stance is ill advised and should remain fluid depending on the situation.

GB absolutely needs to draft multiple (3) WRs with (I believe) their first 5 picks. The roster calls for it.

There isn't another position that lacks both starters and depth, except the WR corp.

Whatever happens...FA, draft, trade...GB needs to replenish the position.

Drafting WRs and developing them properly while paying very little, will alleviate so many things in the present and future.

The evolution of the WR market is happening.

It would be wise for GB to take advantage of their draft capital and get a few WRs, with hopes of securing the next Adams.

At least they all a WR or two under team control.

 

[OldSchool101]

I know I've harped on it, but Gute knows and understands the power of CB...yes we signed Rasul, but let's not forget just last year we entered the season with Jaire, first rounder, King and Sullivan - and still needed a "street" acquisition of Rasul to put us in the running for a ship.

I would not hesitate if the right CB is there and I'm picking and Gute I bet agrees. It may shock folks and some may even disagree but Jaire extension is no promise and after our first 3, do we really think SJC is ready for the big time...or Ento? Maybe...

I know I know. 4th-5th round seems like an afterthought at DB these days and it kind of is. I’m also not opposed getting one sooner if it’s a player who skips.

Keep in mind that we can fix part of this dilemma by adding 1 veteran CB that can play NIckleB. Then grab 1 earlier Day 3 (as I suggested) to develop behind our current group. I think we’re waiting out for the bargain bin and I think that’s wise.

Also, we could add a veteran WR, OT, TE and that changes a lot as far as draft need. Let’s face it Tyni, if we signed even a Brandon Cooks type? That would dramatically shift CB into a Day 1-2 conversation pretty quickly. If we had signed a veteran at RT? Huge difference in need there.

 

[thequick12]

Jarran Reed gonna be a good signing

 

[OldSchool101]

So if someone asked me how the Reed signing and Rasul (declared but not disclosed yet) signings changed my "need board" it went like this:

Pre-signing
DL - MUST leave draft/FA with a guy we think can be a true #3 potential behind Clark and Lowry & a depth guy
DL - see above
(gap of pressing need)
CB - MUST find a CB3 potential guy, and CB4/5 depth guy
S - Need that future guy and #3, Amos in final year...Savage soon 5th year option will need decided on
OLB - Need that possible OLB3 and/or guy of the future
ILB - Depth behind Barnes and Campbell + special teams

Post-Signing
DL/CB - Need that 4th solid depth/contributor that will see snaps for sure first year potentially if Slaton/SJC isn't ready
S - Need that future guy and #3, Amos in final year...Savage soon 5th year option will need decided on
OLB - Need that possible OLB3 and/or guy of the future
ILB - Depth behind Barnes and Campbell + special teams

Nothing really shuffled but the MASSIVE need only beat by WR position wise has been lessoned considerably. Opening up the draft in a massive way to where if Daxton Hill (best S on board atm) is setting there say next to DeMarvin Leal (top DL on board) I give the nod over to Hill potentially early given Hill may see more snaps and a potentially larger role in year one than Leal would.

We also must be cognizant of the fact that KC just moved into the “high need” at WR. And they are sitting in a position to frog us pretty easily at #29 or #30. Just an observation. That’s one more team that stands in our way and they’d like nothing better than to move into #26 slot and screw with us

The only way I’m taking a Safety is if we think we can still get our guy (move up from #28 to #24etc.. and get our WR) or there’s just not a value there. We cannot afford to be boxed out on both sides if a high caliber WR is there. We’ve got NE and KC with high needs at WR as our bookends now.

Until we sign a WR, we are forced to grab 2 early. Even if it’s #28 and then trading into the top #40-50 range

That’s just my opinion. I never even met Gute. Lol. But if I bought the Packers tomorrow and he was my GM? I’d have a picture framed and put on his desk. It would be of an empty noose, with it captioned:
“just a friendly reminder to draft TWO Wideouts very early!”

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Defense, like you said, secondary is pretty much set. LBs are good. Could use another DL or 2, maybe find a guy or like Ming in FA or even Ming himself and the draft.

The Packers need to add some quality depth at linebacker in my opinion.

Okay I believe the OP is up to date. Double checked but only had one cup of coffee so far this morning. If anyone noticed someone I missed let me know. Should reflect all the ERFAs tendered, Lazard tendered, Adams traded, the cuts and Campbell signing posted. The Douglas and the Tonyan deals are unknown but they are listed.

Douglas will count $3,334,313 towards the cap in 2022.

Just looking at the depth chart on defense, S is by far the thinnest.

In my opinion the Packers' starting lineup on defense is pretty talented but they lack quality depth at most positions.

I think most would agree that WR should be the top priority but what does top priority mean to you? I ask because some people seem to think that top priority means they need to draft one in the first round or with their first round pick no matter what. It seems every year some fans are upset because we didn't draft the position they thought we had to draft. That kind of thinking can get you into trouble by reaching or passing on a superior prospect who may be available.

Essentially I'm asking if you are a draft for need or BPA type guy.

If the Packers don't address the wide receiver position before the draft they will absolutely have to spend one of their first rounders on it.

I prefer the team to select players presenting the best value. This year, receiver would definitely present more value than any other position.

We also must be cognizant of the fact that KC just moved into the “high need” at WR. And they are sitting in a position to frog us pretty easily at #29 or #30. Just an observation. That’s one more team that stands in our way and they’d like nothing better than to move into #26 slot and screw with us

The Chiefs are still in a significantly better position regarding their receiving corps with JuJu, Hardman and Kelce on the roster.