Aaron Rodgers is Losing this game

[PackAttack12]

The greatest quarterback of all time in New England sure knows when to dump it off and when to throw it deep. Ours has forgotten how to do that.

Again, I'm not absolving Rodgers completely from this, but can we not at least acknowledge that McCarthy also plays a role in this? I mean he is the play caller. Rodgers and McCarthy go hand in hand. It took McCarthy more than a season's worth of games from mid 2015 to mid 2016 to make the adjustment to implement the short passing game prior to the team taking off and running the table.

Rodgers checks out of plays, but there are MANY times that he gets to the LOS and makes zero checks, calls zero audibles, and yet you have every single pass catcher running 10+ yards down the field.

So again, Rodgers isn't 100% perfect in this, but can we at least exhibit some fairness in saying that McCarthy deserves some blame as well?

For Pete's sake. The offense has been wildly inconsistent. Special teams has been a nightmare for the most part. You've got mental blunders all over the place. You've got poor usage of timeouts. You've got awful situational football. Terrible penalties at the most inopportune of times. And a team that hasn't improved much at all since week 1 when I could argue that the best football the Packers played all season was in the 2nd half when Rodgers was on a bum knee.

See a pattern? Who's the common denominator? Who's responsible for the overall performance of the team? And somehow we're failing to acknowledge that maybe just maybe his play calling is an issue as well?

 

[Ceodore]

Again, I'm not absolving Rodgers completely from this, but can we not at least acknowledge that McCarthy also plays a role in this? I mean he is the play caller. Rodgers and McCarthy go hand in hand. It took McCarthy more than a season's worth of games from mid 2015 to mid 2016 to make the adjustment to implement the short passing game prior to the team taking off and running the table.

Rodgers checks out of plays, but there are MANY times that he gets to the LOS and makes zero checks, calls zero audibles, and yet you have every single pass catcher running 10+ yards down the field.

So again, Rodgers isn't 100% perfect in this, but can we at least exhibit some fairness in saying that McCarthy deserves some blame as well?

For Pete's sake. The offense has been wildly inconsistent. Special teams has been a nightmare for the most part. You've got mental blunders all over the place. You've got poor usage of timeouts. You've got awful situational football. Terrible penalties at the most inopportune of times. And a team that hasn't improved much at all since week 1 when I could argue that the best football the Packers played all season was in the 2nd half when Rodgers was on a bum knee.

See a pattern? Who's the common denominator? Who's responsible for the overall performance of the team? And somehow we're failing to acknowledge that maybe just maybe his play calling is an issue as well?

Oh for sure MM is largely and maybe mostly to blame. I'm not defending him, I'm ready for him to go. But Rodgers also is VERY responsible. I'm at like a 60/40 blame ratio here where others are 90/10. I have a hard time believing MM's, who has been in the league for 1000 years, playcalling style changed so drastically from one season to the next. And it's felt to me like AR has been passing up the comfortable for the borderline impossible all season long.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

Rodgers was freaking terrific. He just wasn't perfect.

Do you need somebody to hold those blinkers for you ?

Again, I'm not absolving Rodgers completely from this, but can we not at least acknowledge that McCarthy also plays a role in this? I mean he is the play caller. Rodgers and McCarthy go hand in hand. It took McCarthy more than a season's worth of games from mid 2015 to mid 2016 to make the adjustment to implement the short passing game prior to the team taking off and running the table.

Rodgers checks out of plays, but there are MANY times that he gets to the LOS and makes zero checks, calls zero audibles, and yet you have every single pass catcher running 10+ yards down the field.

So again, Rodgers isn't 100% perfect in this, but can we at least exhibit some fairness in saying that McCarthy deserves some blame as well?

For Pete's sake. The offense has been wildly inconsistent. Special teams has been a nightmare for the most part. You've got mental blunders all over the place. You've got poor usage of timeouts. You've got awful situational football. Terrible penalties at the most inopportune of times. And a team that hasn't improved much at all since week 1 when I could argue that the best football the Packers played all season was in the 2nd half when Rodgers was on a bum knee.

See a pattern? Who's the common denominator? Who's responsible for the overall performance of the team? And somehow we're failing to acknowledge that maybe just maybe his play calling is an issue as well?

I agree that MM is probably past his best and it's time for a new head coach, but Pack, you HAVE to see that AR isn't doing what he's paid to do lately. IF the problem is they can't work together, he needs to go out and do HIS thing on the field and show how great he is and he isn't.

 

[Ceodore]

And Brady is better at exactly ONE thing compared to Aaron Rodgers; luck at having the best coach of all time.

Only going to address this once to keep the thread remotely on topic, but this is a joke right? You're really ready to hang 8 superbowl appearances solely on a head coach? Not, oh, you know, (quick google) "Brady has been honored with four Super Bowl MVP awards (Super Bowl XXXVI, XXXVIII, XLIX, and LI), the most ever by a single player, has won three league MVP awards (2007, 2010, 2017), has been selected to 13 Pro Bowls, "

 

[PackAttack12]

I agree that MM is probably past his best and it's time for a new head coach, but Pack, you HAVE to see that AR isn't doing what he's paid to do lately. IF the problem is they can't work together, he needs to go out and do HIS thing on the field and show how great he is and he isn't.

Again buggy I'm not excusing Rodgers from this. I've said as much multiple times. He needs to be better, but McCarthy is responsible for the performance of the entire team and it's simply been underwhelming to put it nicely.

And at the end of the day, people can get irritated by this all they want and say that it shouldn't be this way, but you can't fire or get rid of the player you've got 130+ million dollars invested in. That only leaves the coach. Like it or not, that's the reality.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Only going to address this once to keep the thread remotely on topic, but this is a joke right? You're really ready to hang 8 superbowl appearances solely on a head coach? Not, oh, you know, (quick google) "Brady has been honored with four Super Bowl MVP awards (Super Bowl XXXVI, XXXVIII, XLIX, and LI), the most ever by a single player, has won three league MVP awards (2007, 2010, 2017), has been selected to 13 Pro Bowls, "

Yeah, I got boisterous, Brady is not "far from the best of all time". He certainly belongs in the discussion for second best ever.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Do you need somebody to hold those blinkers for you ?

You honestly think that 70% completion, numerous great throws into tight windows, no turnovers and over 300 yards passing isn't a great performance? I mean, are we really to the point in analyzing Rodgers that that level of play is considered "bad" because he missed, what, four checkdowns? Yeah, maybe those checkdowns help the Packers win, but that's only because they would overcome the lack of rushing plays called by MM, poor use of timeouts by the team, and, most importantly, a scared MM who refused to risk his timeout on an obvious replay challenge and punted the ball because he was scared of the media questioning him.

 

[PackAttack12]

Only going to address this once to keep the thread remotely on topic, but this is a joke right? You're really ready to hang 8 superbowl appearances solely on a head coach? Not, oh, you know, (quick google) "Brady has been honored with four Super Bowl MVP awards (Super Bowl XXXVI, XXXVIII, XLIX, and LI), the most ever by a single player, has won three league MVP awards (2007, 2010, 2017), has been selected to 13 Pro Bowls, "

Brady is the greatest ever, but those first three Super Bowls he was definitely not the Tom Brady that we've come to know over the past 10-12 seasons.

Prior to the 2007 explosion, Brady had never posted a passer rating above 95, had never thrown for more than 30 touchdowns, and had never thrown less than 12 interceptions. Completion percentage never north of 64%.

Belichick doesn't deserve all of the credit, but I'd go 75/25 in his favor. He made Tom Brady.

 

[Ceodore]

a scared MM who refused to risk his timeout on an obvious replay challenge and punted the ball because he was scared of the media questioning him.

but once again, where you can blame MM (and he definitely is to blame) you can blame AR and his love for taking his time at the line of scrimmage. You just threw for a giant gain, does it really matter if you take the delay of game and move back 5 yards? especially when you're throwing for 1,000 yds/attempt? It would have been tough for me to throw that challenge flag with only one TO remaining, especially when you're watching your defense getting gashed. Not to mention it took the announcers about 5 different angles to get the incomplete view.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

You honestly think that 70% completion, numerous great throws into tight windows, no turnovers and over 300 yards passing isn't a great performance? I mean, are we really to the point in analyzing Rodgers that that level of play is considered "bad" because he missed, what, four checkdowns? Yeah, maybe those checkdowns help the Packers win, but that's only because they would overcome the lack of rushing plays called by MM, poor use of timeouts by the team, and, most importantly, a scared MM who refused to risk his timeout on an obvious replay challenge and punted the ball because he was scared of the media questioning him.

Why is it a crime to dare and critisise Rodgers ?? He isn't getting the job done. He has to carry some of the blame here but it seems to even say it and there might be a lynching party somewhere in town.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

What the hell is wrong with Rodgers? It's not just this game. For the last several games, he has underthrown every single long ball. Even the one to Adams in the 4th quarter was underthrown - a perfect ball would have had Adams running into the end zone. And he's thrown so many 5-10 yard passes into the dirt. WTF.

Only one clear answer...first Olivia, now this.

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[longtimefan]

Why is it a crime to dare and critisise Rodgers ?? He isn't getting the job done. He has to carry some of the blame here but it seems to even say it and there might be a lynching party somewhere in town.

How it was during Brett's last years He wasn't to blame for int.. He was trying to make a play.

 

[aristotle]

How many times are they going to run the wide receiver screen? Such a bad play, barely ever has a good gain.
also, you run on first down, not 2nd and 10.

I am so ******* pissed right now. How many chances is the defense going to give you? How many times are you going to go deep on third and short? What is a slant??? Three second half points with a chance to put the game away. This offense is ******* pathetic. Rodgers (and this offense) is the problem and it's time to admit it

 

[C-Lee]

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This physically hurts me.

 

[Mondio]

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This physically hurts me.

He's probably still sitting there wide open. who needs a new set of downs when you can just settle for a FG

 

[longtimefan]

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This physically hurts me.

that same type of screen grab with Brett not seeing Ryan Grant versus the Giants

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

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This physically hurts me.

I'm not saying Rodgers didn't mess up here, but this could be creative cropping of a picture. It's 3rd and 5 and AJ is almost 4 yards behind the LOS so he needs 9 yards, are there Seahawk players just outside the picture that could come in and tackle him? I don't remember the play, but if Rodgers threw it away here, that yes, that was a mistake.

What was the result of the play?

I mainly bring this up because I for one have been livid in the past when its third and whatever and the Packers throw short and are still 1-4 yards short of the first down. Here you are in FG range, so a first down or better is really your main goal.

 

[Cheese Headed Monster]

Remember when Rodgers used to do the belt celebration? Remember that guy? Doesn't even seem like that is the same guy anymore.

 

[Mondio]

I'm not saying Rodgers didn't mess up here, but this could be creative cropping of a picture. It's 3rd and 5 and AJ is almost 4 yards behind the LOS so he needs 9 yards, are there Seahawk players just outside the picture that could come in and tackle him? I don't remember the play, but if Rodgers threw it away here, that yes, that was a mistake.

What was the result of the play?

I mainly bring this up because I for one have been livid in the past when its third and whatever and the Packers throw short and are still 1-4 yards short of the first down. Here you are in FG range, so a first down or better is really your main goal.

The result was a sack

 

[Ceodore]

Remember when Rodgers used to do the belt celebration? Remember that guy? Doesn't even seem like that is the same guy anymore.

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[Pokerbrat2000]

The result was a sack

Thanks man. I didn't want to have to rewatch the game to find out what happened, my blood pressure is finally back down to normal.

Given that result, Then.....he should have dumped it off to AJ and at least gotten some positive yards out of it.

 

[Mondio]

Thanks man. I didn't want to have to rewatch the game to find out what happened, my blood pressure is finally back down to normal.

Given that result, Then.....he should have dumped it off to AJ and at least gotten some positive yards out of it.

i'm pretty sure that's the one he pulled it down and tried to run left and was tackled before going anywhere.

 

[BrokenArrow]

His mechanics are badly flawed, throwing off his back foot, not stepping into his throws.

I have to ask... is this the first time you've ever seen AR play?

 

[XPack]

The Toomer and Green penalties reversed the trend. Were any of you complaining at end of first half?

Rodgers missed an easy throw and suddenly he's regressed back to Stone age with couch experts questioning his technical ability, ffs.

Unfeckinbeleivable!

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

Again I think he hasn't fully recovered from last season. I truly believe he is seeing phantoms on the field. That and the surgery on his throwing arm is affecting him more than he cares to admit. Plus on a lighter note, someone did mention that he hasn't been the same since he gave up dairy. XD

Seriously people. Rodgers has 19 tds and 1 int. Played through a sprained knee.

Thats on a 4-5-1 stretch...
Bears are 6-3. Vikes are 5-4-1.... With 7 games left. And both of them still on our schedule...

This is far from over. Green bay will rally.