2025 Draft Prospects for Packers

[Heyjoe4]

Yeah, this was changed a couple years ago and now includes draft-eligible underclassmen, as well.

My thanks to you and Ty for educating me on this. I truly thought it was just an annual game between D1 seniors.

I was watching some sports channel yesterday at the gym, and they were filming some of the events at the senior bowl. They had an entire OL lined up, snapped the ball, and then only an edge defender or DL went against the opposing offensive tackle. It was kinda fast and furious and fun to watch. Very different from the combine where one guy goes up against a clock, a distance measure, or three cones. This was a lot more interesting.

So, is there an actual game at the end of all this other activity?

Thanks again Suds.

 

[tynimiller]

My thanks to you and Ty for educating me on this. I truly thought it was just an annual game between D1 seniors.

I was watching some sports channel yesterday at the gym, and they were filming some of the events at the senior bowl. They had an entire OL lined up, snapped the ball, and then only an edge defender or DL went against the opposing offensive tackle. It was kinda fast and furious and fun to watch. Very different from the combine where one guy goes up against a clock, a distance measure, or three cones. This was a lot more interesting.

So, is there an actual game at the end of all this other activity?

Thanks again Suds.

Yup they'll have an actual game at end of the week. Not everyone sticks around...Trey Amos, Mike Green and another guy (forget who) pulled out and are done for the week after showing out in some of the day practices and 1v1s

 

[Heyjoe4]

CBS Sports suggested the Packers go after MN CB Byron Murphy in FA. I don't know much about the guy. He had 81 tackles, 14 passes defended and 6 INTs.

I'm sure Gluten will try to get a proven Edge guy in FA. Barring that, a solid CB also makes sense. If they have to draft an Edge player or CB, who might be available?

 

[tynimiller]

CBS Sports suggested the Packers go after MN CB Byron Murphy in FA. I don't know much about the guy. He had 81 tackles, 14 passes defended and 6 INTs.

I'm sure Gluten will try to get a proven Edge guy in FA. Barring that, a solid CB also makes sense. If they have to draft an Edge player or CB, who might be available?

At their current position Day 1 I'd say one of the following four would be consensus tops for each of those player groups:

Cornerback
Benjamin Morrison
Shavon Revel
Jahdae Barron
Trey Amos
*that's assuming Travis Hunter and Will Campbell are off the board.
My personal darkhorse consideration for day 1 - Azareye'h Thomas and Darien Porter

Edge
Nic Scourton
Jack Sawyer
Princely Umanmielen
Landon Jackson
*That's assuming Abdul Carter, Mykel Williams, James Pearce, Jalon Walker, Shemar Stewart and Mike Green are gone.
Darkhorse mentions for me also are Kyle Kennard and Donovan Ezeiruaku

 

[Heyjoe4]

At their current position Day 1 I'd say one of the following four would be consensus tops for each of those player groups:

Cornerback
Benjamin Morrison
Shavon Revel
Jahdae Barron
Trey Amos
*that's assuming Travis Hunter and Will Campbell are off the board.
My personal darkhorse consideration for day 1 - Azareye'h Thomas and Darien Porter

Edge
Nic Scourton
Jack Sawyer
Princely Umanmielen
Landon Jackson
*That's assuming Abdul Carter, Mykel Williams, James Pearce, Jalon Walker, Shemar Stewart and Mike Green are gone.
Darkhorse mentions for me also are Kyle Kennard and Donovan Ezeiruaku

Thanks. This makes the draft (and FA) even more interesting. I see Barron going to GB in the majority of mocks, or at least the mocks I've seen. And the current mocks make no allowance for FA. After the first two weeks of FA, the latter half of the draft in particular seems likely to change, a lot or a little, but change.

 

[tynimiller]

Thanks. This makes the draft (and FA) even more interesting. I see Barron going to GB in the majority of mocks, or at least the mocks I've seen. And the current mocks make no allowance for FA. After the first two weeks of FA, the latter half of the draft in particular seems likely to change, a lot or a little, but change.

One thing Gute has proven at minimum is he is going to add a body or two in rooms which need help...now that could be just resigning Stokes cheaply and another similar case....but he won't enter the draft cornered if you will so deeply into a position that he has to draft position based. He's done it almost every year to the degree his finances allow.

 

[tynimiller]

I’ve shared some before but one direction I would understand and get behind is if Gute and Co. replaced Myers with Gray Zebel from North Dakota State.

Dude played LT for them but he absolutely crushed the senior bowl this week in interior work, especially at center.

Sadly it seems he might not make it to our second pick, that’s how clean his technique is, how good his hip sink is and yet his athleticism to mirror speed rushes also make him just solid all around.

It would be a luxury pick, but would instantly put Rhyan on notice and knowledge of he’s likely not getting signed after his contract year.

Anthony Belton from NC State that many likely recall me talking about for 2024 draft before he decided to return to school, is a tackle prospect I could easily see GB liking for consideration in that 3rd to 4th round as well.

I’m narrowing in on my personal top 100 prospects which will likely only get refined some when more testing and knowledge comes in over the coming months.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

It would be a luxury pick, but would instantly put Rhyan on notice and knowledge of he’s likely not getting signed after his contract year.

That is kind of how I feel about any non-LT O-lineman taken in Rounds 1-2. Now if your roster isn't lacking at some of the more expensive skilled positions, I could see using a high pick on a guy that you feel is a rock solid Pro Bowl type Center, that will start immediately. That isn't to say that with your 1st 2 picks, you have any guarantees that you are going to find a future Pro Bowler at CB, EDGE, IDL,WR either, but for the Packers, those needs outweigh that of grabbing a center too early.

Gute would do himself and the Packers a favor by addressing as many of those needs in Free Agency as possible, before the draft. Than maybe, if that career center is available, you grab him.

I know it isn't always easy to draft instant starters, even in Rounds 1 and 2, but for once, I would like to see Gute select 2 guys in those rounds that he doesn't lead off the presser with "We feel this guy just has a lot of untapped potential."

 

[tynimiller]

That is kind of how I feel about any non-LT O-lineman taken in Rounds 1-2. Now if your roster isn't lacking at some of the more expensive skilled positions, I could see using a high pick on a guy that you feel is a rock solid Pro Bowl type Center, that will start immediately. That isn't to say that with your 1st 2 picks, you have any guarantees that you are going to find a future Pro Bowler at CB, EDGE, IDL,WR either, but for the Packers, those needs outweigh that of grabbing a center too early.

Gute would do himself and the Packers a favor by addressing as many of those needs in Free Agency as possible, before the draft. Than maybe, if that career center is available, you grab him.

I know it isn't always easy to draft instant starters, even in Rounds 1 and 2, but for once, I would like to see Gute select 2 guys in those rounds that he doesn't lead off the presser with "We feel this guy just has a lot of untapped potential."

To be fair Bullard and Williams both started asap, Cooper eventually as well....I know folks look solely to first day but damn that draft for one year at least was a GRAND SLAM

 

[Schultz]

IMO part of Bullard and Williams starting right away had a lot to do with just how bad the secondary was pre-draft.

 

[tynimiller]

IMO part of Bullard and Williams starting right away had a lot to do with just how bad the secondary was pre-draft.

On Bullard I concur, Williams straight up came in and was better than anyone thought he’d be. If Nixon didn’t suck at nickel Bullard doesn’t likely see the field as fast.

Those two with X have us in a very special place with our safety and inside play…crazy good trio and Bullard and Williams aren’t even the pros they’ll likely become.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Too early to grade the 2024 draft, but if I had to, I'd give it a C-

1. Morgan (F but incomplete)
2. Cooper B+
3. Bullard C+
4. Lloyd (F but incomplete)
5. Hopper C-
6. Williams A-
7. Monk F
8. Oladapo D-
9. Glover F
10. Pratt F-
11 King D

Not a fan of grading players 1 year in, but I did anyway.

Ultimately, Morgan will be a big factor in determining just how good Gute and the Packers did with the 11 guys they drafted. Quite a few of them either never saw the field or if they did, very little. So yeah, lots of room to grow for all players and thus, still too early to declare it a success or failure of a draft class.

 

[AmishMafia]

Too early to grade the 2024 draft, but if I had to, I'd give it a C-

1. Morgan (F but incomplete)
2. Cooper B+
3. Bullard C+
4. Lloyd (F but incomplete)
5. Hopper C-
6. Williams A-
7. Monk F
8. Oladapo D-
9. Glover F
10. Pratt F-
11 King D

Not a fan of grading players 1 year in, but I did anyway.

Ultimately, Morgan will be a big factor in determining just how good Gute and the Packers did with the 11 guys they drafted. Quite a few of them either never saw the field or if they did, very little. So yeah, lots of room to grow for all players and thus, still too early to declare it a success or failure of a draft class.

Damn. That is harsh. Cooper a B+? The man got NFC defensive player of the week twice. He was the highest PFF graded defensive player one week. All as a rookie. If that's not an A+ I don't know what is. And it's not like we picked him in the top 10. He was a 2nd rounder.

 

[Schultz]

Too early to grade the 2024 draft, but if I had to, I'd give it a C-

1. Morgan (F but incomplete)
2. Cooper B+
3. Bullard C+
4. Lloyd (F but incomplete)
5. Hopper C-
6. Williams A-
7. Monk F
8. Oladapo D-
9. Glover F
10. Pratt F-
11 King D

Not a fan of grading players 1 year in, but I did anyway.

Ultimately, Morgan will be a big factor in determining just how good Gute and the Packers did with the 11 guys they drafted. Quite a few of them either never saw the field or if they did, very little. So yeah, lots of room to grow for all players and thus, still too early to declare it a success or failure of a draft class.

IMO Cooper, Williams and Bullard make this draft a B+ for year 1.

 

[tynimiller]

Shoot if you asked me to grade the 2024 draft I’d say your three years early but A for sure. You get three first year starters that cause a massive shift in presences on their side of the ball that draft was KILLER

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Damn. That is harsh. Cooper a B+? The man got NFC defensive player of the week twice. He was the highest PFF graded defensive player one week. All as a rookie. If that's not an A+ I don't know what is. And it's not like we picked him in the top 10. He was a 2nd rounder.

The reason I didn't give him an A, it took him half the season to start showing who he was. From about week 8 or so on, most definitely an A.

 

[tynimiller]

I believe I've settled in on my top 12 rankings within the WR class...

1 - Tetairora McMillan Arizona - he's literally what would pop out of a machine if I tried to design a guy that should be dynamite in the league.
2 - Emeka Egbuka Ohio State - highest floor in the class IMO and one of the most sure things.
3 - Matthew Golden Texas - His floor isn't as high as EE but this kid is a BIG play walking...expect him to light up the 40 time as well.
4 - Luther Burden Missouri - I'm not as high on him as some, but MO deployed him deadly in his time there.
5 - Jayden Higgins Iowa State - A man his size should not have the release and foot deployment speed he does IMO.
6 - Jalen Royals Utah St - Had he not went to Utah St and missed part of this past year, he would be in EVERYONE's Top10 IMO
7 - Elic Ayomanor Stanford - Some polished stance and route technique and Elic could be the steal of the draft in five years.
8 - Tre Harris Ole Miss - Mr. Production. Dude simply flat out produces and has every single year.
9 - Jack Bech TCU - My hesitant ranking...his ceiling is immense but he's only proved he is who I think he is one year in college...
10 - Xavier Restrepo Miami - Once he started getting good QB play and chances in games he's done nothing but produce.
11- Savion Williams TCU - Rarity at 6'4' 225 pounds made plays as a RB and wildcat QB as well all year in 2024 - he has excellent long speed...swiss army knife that could be fun in MLF system.
12 - Tez Johnson Oregon - Dude is tiny, but BIG play potential. Very hard to cover, I just worry can he survive at the next level with his frame?
13 - Tory Horton Colorado State - An older statesman who got bit by the injury bug in 2024, but is still to me one of the most surefire guys you know precisely what you're getting, high floor / low ceiling type IMO that I really like in the third/fourth range.

 

[AmishMafia]

The reason I didn't give him an A, it took him half the season to start showing who he was. From about week 8 or so on, most definitely an A.

Sounds like you are grading production of the draft picks and not the picks themselves.

Getting Cooper where we did, and to have him be the best defensive player in the NFL 2 weeks, all players, not just rookies, well that is something pretty special. He is probably the steal of the draft (or maybe DeJean) at this point so I have to give him an A+.

 

[tynimiller]

Sounds like you are grading production of the draft picks and not the picks themselves.

Getting Cooper where we did, and to have him be the best defensive player in the NFL 2 weeks, all players, not just rookies, well that is something pretty special. He is probably the steal of the draft at this point so I have to give him an A+.

I would personally say Evan Williams was an even bigger steal and an A+ as well.

Vastly too early to grade the class not even a year removed from first season but I’m telling ya this class didn’t just shove guys into playing time because the roster sucked, they played and at times played at high levels.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Sounds like you are grading production of the draft picks and not the picks themselves.

Getting Cooper where we did, and to have him be the best defensive player in the NFL 2 weeks, all players, not just rookies, well that is something pretty special. He is probably the steal of the draft (or maybe DeJean) at this point so I have to give him an A+.

Of course I am grading production and how they performed on the field in 2024. Yes, I recognize that Cooper appears to be the real deal and should get better and when he actually does, his grade will go up. If he goes backwards in 2025, so will his grade.

If I had done mid-season grades, Cooper probably is at a C and Bullard is probably at a B. Like I have always said, grading draft classes, as a whole or individually, is very fluid and will be constantly changing during their 4+ years as a Packer.

 

[AmishMafia]

I would personally say Evan Williams was an even bigger steal and an A+ as well.

Vastly too early to grade the class not even a year removed from first season but I’m telling ya this class didn’t just shove guys into playing time because the roster sucked, they played and at times played at high levels.

Yes. You may be right. I think Cooper was a bigger impact, but Evans was a 4th rounder pick. You have to take that into account. Definitely an A+.

The whole draft i would have to give it a solid A.

 

[tynimiller]

Of course I am grading production and how they performed on the field in 2024. Yes, I recognize that Cooper appears to be the real deal and should get better and when he actually does, his grade will go up. If he goes backwards in 2025, so will his grade.

If I had done mid-season grades, Cooper probably is at a C and Bullard is probably at a B. Like I have always said, grading draft classes, as a whole or individually, is very fluid and will be constantly changing during their 4+ years as a Packer.

I would argue you weren't grading the draft pick, you were purely grading the player's season. I think that is the difference. Both valid.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Tetairora McMillan Arizona

TMAC might be my #1 guy as well. Unfortunately, he probably goes top 10 and the Packers will never have a shot at him. Now if he somehow slips far enough that Gute can make a reasonable trade to go get him, I would love it. The guy is a human highlight reel and his YAC is something the current Packer WR group can't match. He would be THE guy that they thought they were getting in Watson.

 

[tynimiller]

TMAC might be my #1 guy as well. Unfortunately, he probably goes top 10 and the Packers will never have a shot at him. Now if he somehow slips far enough that Gute can make a reasonable trade to go get him, I would love it. The guy is a human highlight reel and his YAC is something the current Packer WR group can't match. He would be THE guy that they thought they were getting in Watson.

He is awesome, special, unique...and a lot more.