2025 Draft Prospects for Packers

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Really? I have not watched him enough. The times I have seen him he reminds me of Hutchinson. I don't think he deserves to be the highest paid Edge player at his age. Then again they overpaid for McKinney but got way more than they paid for. I think Hutchinson is too old for that kind of money. Would still love to see him in G&G though, and he's be worth the small risk.

I just have a feeling he'll in GB next season. I have faith in Gluten and Ball to strike a good deal, and if they overpay a bit, well it's only money.

Unfortunately, it's not just money, it's cap space.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Unfortunately, it's not just money, it's cap space.

Agree.

Cap space and the cap itself is the only thing saving the NFL or at least small market teams like the Packers. Shared revenue also helps.

I see the Bengals are in danger of losing their stadium and having to move out of Cincinnati. Seems the tax payers have grown tired of footing the bill. I can't blame them one bit. I love my Packers, but if I had to kick in extra money via taxes, I wouldn't love them so much.

 

[rmontro]

I see the Bengals are in danger of losing their stadium and having to move out of Cincinnati. Seems the tax payers have grown tired of footing the bill. I can't blame them one bit. I love my Packers, but if I had to kick in extra money via taxes, I wouldn't love them so much.

I'm in Indiana, so I think I'm safe. Unless they have another shady stock sale.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Unfortunately, it's not just money, it's cap space.

Good point. There's a lotta money but only so much cap space. And that's another reason I don't like the idea of giving a record-setting edge contract to Maxx Crosby.

 

[SudsMcBucky]

Agree.

Cap space and the cap itself is the only thing saving the NFL or at least small market teams like the Packers. Shared revenue also helps.

I see the Bengals are in danger of losing their stadium and having to move out of Cincinnati. Seems the tax payers have grown tired of footing the bill. I can't blame them one bit. I love my Packers, but if I had to kick in extra money via taxes, I wouldn't love them so much.

Are you a Brewers fan?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Are you a Brewers fan?

I am.

If you are going to use them and baseball as a comparison to how small market teams can make it in MLB, include all those years when the Brewers weren't making it. Also, Baseball has farm leagues, that helps find young/cheap talent.

 

[tynimiller]

Some measurables are coming through from Senior Bowl....going to do a separate Senior Bowl specific thread.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Some measurables are coming through from Senior Bowl....going to do a separate Senior Bowl specific thread.

Look forward to that. When was the Senior Bowl played? Does that attract the best candidates, or do they sit it out and wait for the combine, rather than risk injury? Just curious because I know a lot of players declaring for the draft will skip their team's bowl game.

 

[tynimiller]

Look forward to that. When was the Senior Bowl played? Does that attract the best candidates, or do they sit it out and wait for the combine, rather than risk injury? Just curious because I know a lot of players declaring for the draft will skip their team's bowl game.

Meaurements is all that has occurred. It is a week of stuff not one game.

 

[SudsMcBucky]

I am.

If you are going to use them and baseball as a comparison to how small market teams can make it in MLB, include all those years when the Brewers weren't making it. Also, Baseball has farm leagues, that helps find young/cheap talent.

I'm talking about the part of taxpayers getting sick of footing the bill for stadiums and how your love for the Packers may not be so much if that were the case. Because without taxpayers helping, the Brewers would've been gone decades ago.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Look forward to that. When was the Senior Bowl played? Does that attract the best candidates, or do they sit it out and wait for the combine, rather than risk injury? Just curious because I know a lot of players declaring for the draft will skip their team's bowl game.

It's being played this Sunday. The 3 practices and the game draws a lot of NFL Scouts. Kind of the pre-combine for many.

As far as if it attracts the best candidates. A lot of the top players that feel that their draft position towards the top is somewhat secure, don't participate, for fear of injury. However, guys wanting to improve their position in the draft definitely come to do just that.

 

[GBkrzygrl]

I'm not saying Willis should be or would be, but he is the perfect candidate for a conditional pick to be included in the trade....so it could be:

2025 3rd rounder
2026 5th rounder that becomes a 4th if he starts half the 2025 season, becomes a 3rd if he is a top10 QB in a named category say TDs or Passing Yards or Passer Rating....

Each team in a QB trade scenario understand his value could be a bust or BOOM and each team would want to protect some against that.

I'm against trading Willis. We haven't had the greatest luck finding a backup QB.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'm talking about the part of taxpayers getting sick of footing the bill for stadiums and how your love for the Packers may not be so much if that were the case. Because without taxpayers helping, the Brewers would've been gone decades ago.

Got ya. Fortunately, I am not paying for the Brewers, Packers or Bucks through taxes. I suppose that on the rare occasions that I visit those counties that tax their residents I might. However, even when I attend a game, I get in and get out and don't spend money near the location of the games.

Some say that public funding for Pro Teams is less expensive than losing those teams income tax revenue. While there may be some truth to that, I'm not a fan of public extortion, by businesses that make plenty of money and could find more direct sources of income to pay their expenses.

If the NFL required each NFL team to set aside $30M or so per year, as a sinking fund for stadium repairs or future builds, tax payers wouldn't be held hostage by their local team begging for more money.

 

[tynimiller]

I'm against trading Willis. We haven't had the greatest luck finding a backup QB.

The post you quoted was not an argument for it, just outlining what a package if you included conditional would have to look like. Unless someone is starting a package with a 2nd rounder this year minimum, I'm not answering calls.

Now if Willis can be part of a package to bring in a bonafide improvement to the roster you do have to consider if you're the GM.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Meaurements is all that has occurred. It is a week of stuff not one game.

Gotcha. So like a mini combine for seniors with a game included? Do candidates for all 7 rounds show up?

 

[tynimiller]

Gotcha. So like a mini combine for seniors with a game included? Do candidates for all 7 rounds show up?

It is invite only. The other thread lists all of them. Nagy and his staff try to select the best prospects, of course some don't come, decline invite but especially of late vastly more high profile guys are there....

(deleted as I misquoted figures...working on getting).

 

[tynimiller]

2024 First Rounders - of the 32 there were 10 that were Senior Bowl participants.

110 Senior Bowl participants were drafted in the NFL draft. The Senior Bowl roster is usually around 120 players (60 on each team)

 

[Heyjoe4]

2024 First Rounders - of the 32 there were 10 that were Senior Bowl participants.

110 Senior Bowl participants were drafted in the NFL draft. The Senior Bowl roster is usually around 120 players (60 on each team)

Thanks for all this info on the Senior Bowl. It's clearly an important event for players and teams. 110 seniors drafted surprised me as being higher than I expected. Seems like guys usually declare after their junior season.

 

[tynimiller]

Thanks for all this info on the Senior Bowl. It's clearly an important event for players and teams. 110 seniors drafted surprised me as being higher than I expected. Seems like guys usually declare after their junior season.

I think you're misunderstanding what the "Senior Bowl" is.

It is a week event essentially where draft eligible guys are invited (you have to be invited) to come and participate in the week worth of practices (NFL/experienced positional coaches are there instructing even). The origin of why it is called the "Senior Bowl" is anyone's best bet but it growing into a massive event.

There tagline on their website is "Elite draft prospects from around the country are selected to showcase their talent and connect with coaches and decision-makers from all 32 NFL teams."

The Packers have a coach there working with the linebackers and edge rushers for the American team during the week and then on gameday, Wendel Davis.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I think you're misunderstanding what the "Senior Bowl" is.

It is a week event essentially where draft eligible guys are invited (you have to be invited) to come and participate in the week worth of practices (NFL/experienced positional coaches are there instructing even). The origin of why it is called the "Senior Bowl" is anyone's best bet but it growing into a massive event.

There tagline on their website is "Elite draft prospects from around the country are selected to showcase their talent and connect with coaches and decision-makers from all 32 NFL teams."

The Packers have a coach there working with the linebackers and edge rushers for the American team during the week and then on gameday, Wendel Davis.

I thought that it was exclusively for seniors. Apparently it's broader than that. Anyway I appreciate all the info you shared. Does this even occur before the combine?

One last question - who decides the players to be invited?

 

[tynimiller]

I thought that it was exclusively for seniors. Apparently it's broader than that. Anyway I appreciate all the info you shared. Does this even occur before the combine?

One last question - who decides the players to be invited?

It is happening right now.

The staff that run the event choose. Phil Savage is man guy but he has a team. The process is explained some here https://www.seniorbowl.com/how-the-senior-bowl-selects-players/

 

[Heyjoe4]

It is happening right now.

The staff that run the event choose. Phil Savage is man guy but he has a team. The process is explained some here https://www.seniorbowl.com/how-the-senior-bowl-selects-players/

Interesting. Sounds like a lot of work for Savage and his staff.

 

[SudsMcBucky]

I thought that it was exclusively for seniors. Apparently it's broader than that. Anyway I appreciate all the info you shared. Does this even occur before the combine?

One last question - who decides the players to be invited?

Yeah, this was changed a couple years ago and now includes draft-eligible underclassmen, as well.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Add DT Walter Nolen to your Packer Draft watch list.

Mel Kiper: "Nolen has strong hands and can pressure the QB from inside with his quickness. He had 12.5 tackles for loss and 6.5 sacks in 2024...a difference-maker to heat up the pocket."

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[tynimiller]

Add DT Walter Nolen to your Packer Draft watch list.

Mel Kiper: "Nolen has strong hands and can pressure the QB from inside with his quickness. He had 12.5 tackles for loss and 6.5 sacks in 2024...a difference-maker to heat up the pocket."

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lol Nolen is one of like five primary targets in the first day id dance in the streets if he makes it to us and we pick him.