2024 3rd round #88 MarShawn Lloyd RB

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Ya gotta love Uecker. He said he got no appreciation for playing so many games hungover. His point was anyone could play baseball with a clear head.

It's right along the lines of the ground ball he said he missed because the sun got in his eyes. And even that's interesting because he played catcher. How many ground balls did he field?

He's Uecker, and he's all Milwaukee. What a guy.
He got to sit in the front row!
 

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Totally just spitballing... I wonder if it isn't possible that Dillon's future isn't seen as more of a FB as alluded to above, more of a specialist type position. The 49ers for instance have generally been keeping 3 running backs active, but also Juszczyk as a fullback. Perhaps we would look to do similar?
Good catch M. I'm a little surprised that the press never picked up on this. It's my understanding that MLF loves to have a FB at his disposal. Dillon is close to perfect for the position. He certainly has the strength to handle the position, he's a decent receiver, and if he gets some blocking, he can hit a gap pretty quickly for 4-6 yards. A versatile FB. Don't hear that very often.

Personally, I'd love to see that work out for the good of the team and Dillon. He clearly loves GB and WI, he's a fan favorite. Seems like a great match. As always, it will come down to how MLF and Gluten decide on the 53 and who is active on game day. Anyway, I like it.
 

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LOL I believe it was me and Dantes or @Voyageur that tried tipping everyone off based on usage and his insanely good blocking skillset Dillon was likely heading that way this year, then in presser MLF even shared his deployment was going to be very diverse and not just a HB. It's been a concept I think anyone watching saw coming.
 

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He got to sit in the front row!
On man milani, you and Amish are killing me (and dating me) with these Uecker references. I think you're referring to a Miller Lite commercial where he always bragged about sitting in the front roooooow at a game.

Uecker and Al McGuire. Milwaukee's Best (pun intended).
 

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On topic of the thread, Lloyd is possible to return this week from IR - first week that is possible. Be interesting to hear what is happening.
 

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LOL I believe it was me and Dantes or @Voyageur that tried tipping everyone off based on usage and his insanely good blocking skillset Dillon was likely heading that way this year, then in presser MLF even shared his deployment was going to be very diverse and not just a HB. It's been a concept I think anyone watching saw coming.
I'll admit to wondering if he was a better FB when he started playing, but then he was never played at the position, or not often and not that I remember. The idea just kind of faded, well for me. Some of you guys spotted it and I hope it plays out that way.
 

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LOL I believe it was me and Dantes or @Voyageur that tried tipping everyone off based on usage and his insanely good blocking skillset Dillon was likely heading that way this year, then in presser MLF even shared his deployment was going to be very diverse and not just a HB. It's been a concept I think anyone watching saw coming.
I was one of those pointing at Dillon as being more of a fullback/H-back, because his blocking skills far exceeded everyone on the team at that time. That would still apply.

What Dillon adds to that role is that he can be a power runner for short yardage as well, and has decent enough hands that he's also a threat in that department. Role players, in today's NFL, are a necessity, because the have a combination of skills that make them a little different kind of threat, and support, for others.

As an example, a good blocking H-back/fullback can be important in picking up pass rush from the blind side of a QB, saving them from being pressured, or taking a hard hit that can disrupt a play. Bill Walsh turned that role into one of the backbones of the 49ers offense, and it worked to perfection. LeFleur has that same offensive approach to the game.

As for Jacobs, he's done everything that they've asked of him, including carrying the team in a game where they went in concerned about having to throw the ball. His efforts in that game was enormous, and every down that he's in the game, the opposition needs to honor the run because of his chops between the tackles, even on 3rd and 9, because he's good at finding seams in defenses.

What we're seeing with him in the lineup is more balance to the offense. He's more consistent in his runs than Jones was. A steady 3 to 5 yards a carry far exceeds the 20 yard carry then four more where you don't get a yard. You move the markers, then the chains steadily down the field, and wear the opposing defense down, and keeping your own defense fresh.
 

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I was one of those pointing at Dillon as being more of a fullback/H-back, because his blocking skills far exceeded everyone on the team at that time. That would still apply.

What Dillon adds to that role is that he can be a power runner for short yardage as well, and has decent enough hands that he's also a threat in that department. Role players, in today's NFL, are a necessity, because the have a combination of skills that make them a little different kind of threat, and support, for others.

As an example, a good blocking H-back/fullback can be important in picking up pass rush from the blind side of a QB, saving them from being pressured, or taking a hard hit that can disrupt a play. Bill Walsh turned that role into one of the backbones of the 49ers offense, and it worked to perfection. LeFleur has that same offensive approach to the game.

As for Jacobs, he's done everything that they've asked of him, including carrying the team in a game where they went in concerned about having to throw the ball. His efforts in that game was enormous, and every down that he's in the game, the opposition needs to honor the run because of his chops between the tackles, even on 3rd and 9, because he's good at finding seams in defenses.

What we're seeing with him in the lineup is more balance to the offense. He's more consistent in his runs than Jones was. A steady 3 to 5 yards a carry far exceeds the 20 yard carry then four more where you don't get a yard. You move the markers, then the chains steadily down the field, and wear the opposing defense down, and keeping your own defense fresh.

Yup, I loved Aaron, BUT Jacobs is a better running back. Aaron was/is a better home run playmaker...but not a better running back.
 

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I was one of those pointing at Dillon as being more of a fullback/H-back, because his blocking skills far exceeded everyone on the team at that time. That would still apply.

What Dillon adds to that role is that he can be a power runner for short yardage as well, and has decent enough hands that he's also a threat in that department. Role players, in today's NFL, are a necessity, because the have a combination of skills that make them a little different kind of threat, and support, for others.

As an example, a good blocking H-back/fullback can be important in picking up pass rush from the blind side of a QB, saving them from being pressured, or taking a hard hit that can disrupt a play. Bill Walsh turned that role into one of the backbones of the 49ers offense, and it worked to perfection. LeFleur has that same offensive approach to the game.

As for Jacobs, he's done everything that they've asked of him, including carrying the team in a game where they went in concerned about having to throw the ball. His efforts in that game was enormous, and every down that he's in the game, the opposition needs to honor the run because of his chops between the tackles, even on 3rd and 9, because he's good at finding seams in defenses.

What we're seeing with him in the lineup is more balance to the offense. He's more consistent in his runs than Jones was. A steady 3 to 5 yards a carry far exceeds the 20 yard carry then four more where you don't get a yard. You move the markers, then the chains steadily down the field, and wear the opposing defense down, and keeping your own defense fresh.
I think we all love Aaron Jones, but the switch to Jacobs was the right one. Jacobs is not a glamorous runner but as you say, he'll consistently get 4 or 5 yards on a carry. And he's durable. Jones' biggest issue imo was his size. About 20 lbs too light for a HB in the NFL today. His injury history bears that out.

Still love the guy though, vi-queens aside.
 

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Jones is more fun to watch but Jacobs is the RB this offense needed, especially when Dillon went down. Wilson is a good complement to Jacobs. We've managed to maintain a good balance at that position. Kudos to staff & management.
 

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Honestly, RB's are a dime a dozen in the NFL, I don't see the Packers getting enough to make it worth their while to trade Wilson. Wilson now knows and is familiar with the system, his value is much greater to the Packers than it probably is to another team.
Mostly I agree but not with RBs are a dime a dozen. Most of them could have a great day but that does not make them dime a dozen imo. And definitely agree that Wilson has shown he is an asset right here and trading him would not make sense for us and we would not get back the value he has for us. If Jacobs goes down a couple weeks; we will need him.
 

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Theoretically Dillon should make a good fullback. I'm not convinced he is really the tough blocker that the position requires though.
 

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On man milani, you and Amish are killing me (and dating me) with these Uecker references. I think you're referring to a Miller Lite commercial where he always bragged about sitting in the front roooooow at a game.

Uecker and Al McGuire. Milwaukee's Best (pun intended).
At least he could tell when an infielder missed the tag. Not all umps could see that.
 

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Jones is more fun to watch but Jacobs is the RB this offense needed, especially when Dillon went down. Wilson is a good complement to Jacobs. We've managed to maintain a good balance at that position. Kudos to staff & management.
Jones was fun to watch, but I held my breath every time he weaved his way through DLs, LBs, CBs, and the dreaded Safeties. He's also just a terrific guy.

Jacobs gives the team more reliability, a guy who will consistently average around 5 YPC with a very workman-like approach. He's a grinder. Jacobs and Wilson are exactly what this team needs. The RPO, especially with Love back under center, and MLF's use of motion on almost every play will keep defenses guessing.
 

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