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and how do you get a Fumble KO #1
Instead of starting in great Field Position. Zero awareness?

Then you back up -7 points with a holding on KO .#2. Backing is up to our own 10??? What? Inexcusable

That would’ve been strictly warned. It made Ty Montgomery look intelligent. I’d told the ST group, Get a flag in Qtr1? and go to the lockerroom I’ll meet you for a talk at HT.
He did take a helmet to helmet on the KO which was later determined bad enough to fine the guy. Bad non call - plus he recovered it clearly. Not on Nixon on the ref
 

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Yep, that is still unmatched also. Of course, Lombardi left before he was diagnosed with colon cancer. Most people thought the Packer dynasty had run its course by that point, and I've always suspected that he might have known that and was perhaps one of the reasons why he left.
Vince knew that it was changing but he never winced at believing he could go out there and lose. During the 1968 season those close to him heard him say that he had made a mistake in stepping down. Bengtson was not getting the job done. But he felt it was not right for him to fire Phil and just take his place. So he went elsewhere.
 

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The Chiefs are just more clutch than the Bills. The bills had numerous chances to win it on 4th downs in the second half and stumbled over themselves too often. That team should be dismantled. As long as Mahomes is in KC, they'll never beat them when it counts.
 

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Josh Allen is overrated.I'm tired about hearing how good he is. His about winning a big game for once. I'll take Love over him. At least Love has a chance to get better and turn into a bona fide winner. We'll see. Maybe, maybe not.
 

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Philly is a better team than the Bills but that might not be enough to beat Mahomes. The Eagles two young cornerbacks look really good. I sure with Cooper DeJean was wearing green and gold instead of Morgan.
 

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Philly is a better team than the Bills but that might not be enough to beat Mahomes. The Eagles two young cornerbacks look really good. I sure with Cooper DeJean was wearing green and gold instead of Morgan.
A few years back it went exactly right down to the end when they played. Could be the same. KC has the better kicker but indoors it may not matter. Turnovers will be crucial. Eagles forced them in the last 2 games but did not make any. Both teams are very strong on defense. Chiefs will obviously key on Barkley. Eagles will mix up the heat and keep Kelce under wraps.
 

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On the last 4th down play, the Bills had a receiver wide open running a cross route 10 yards in front of Allen. Instead of hanging in the pocket and picking up an easy first down, Allen didn't want to take the hit. He backpeddled and threw up a Favre-like heave to nobody. I'm pretty sure Mahomes hangs in the pocket and makes that completion. That's why they are going to threepeat and why the Bills are fools gold.
 

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Philly is a better team than the Bills but that might not be enough to beat Mahomes. The Eagles two young cornerbacks look really good. I sure with Cooper DeJean was wearing green and gold instead of Morgan.
Lest we forget Quinyon Mitchell went just a couple picks before Morgan too. Both DROY candidates, basically reinvented their secondary in one draft.

In 2022 you may recall that we doubled up on drafting Georgia defenders with Quay Walker at 22 and Devonte Wyatt at 2023.

Philly did the same thing in 2023: Jalen Carter at 9 and Nolan Smith at 30. (they've also had a general affinity for drafting Georgia players with Nakobe Dean and Lewis Cine also as recent additions)
Then this past offseason they signed Zack Baun with basically no fanfare whatsoever. Wasn't considered a marquee signing by any stretch, 1 year 3.5m contract.

That's not all they've done but I'll be brief. In 2023 the Eagles were 29th in Defensive DVOA. This season they were 1st. New DC and proper talent identification/drafting has completely turned their defense around in a massive way.

For 2025 our total defensive spending is at roughly 133m. Philly is spending ~93m.
Now admittedly our defense made some big improvements in a lot of ways with Hafley but IMO we still have too many early investments that we aren't getting near the return from that we should expect.
 

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The Chiefs are just more clutch than the Bills. The bills had numerous chances to win it on 4th downs in the second half and stumbled over themselves too often. That team should be dismantled. As long as Mahomes is in KC, they'll never beat them when it counts.
The Chiefs are an unbelievable 17-0 in their last 17 one possession games. That is insanely clutch.

Josh Allen is 4-0 in his last 4 regular season games against KC, and 0-4 in his last 4 playoff games against KC. Josh Allen is just like Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs against the 49ers.
 

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Josh Allen needed to hang in the pocket on the last 4th down play and take a hit. Instead. He backpeddled against the blitz and threw up a prayer. I understand the call on the QB sneak could've gone either way, but he still had a chance to win the game after that and he choked.
 

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It happened again! I was driving my car, listening to the radio, and the guy on the radio said that the Chiefs were going for a threepeat, "which has never happened in the NFL". Those were his exact words. He didn't mention anything about a Super Bowl, he just said a threepeat has never happened in the NFL.

:mad::tdown: :poop: :poop::poop: :poop: :poop::poop::poop: :poop: :poop::poop: :poop:

I was thinking about why MLB honors its past while the NFL pretends it didn't exist before 1967. And I realized cutting off MLB's past would mean taking away a bunch of Yankee championships. Obviously a big time media like in New York is not going to let that happen. Green Bay? No one is going to give a crap.

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Josh Allen needed to hang in the pocket on the last 4th down play and take a hit. Instead. He backpeddled against the blitz and threw up a prayer. I understand the call on the QB sneak could've gone either way, but he still had a chance to win the game after that and he choked.
If he hung in the pocket, he gets sacked without even throwing the ball. That ball hit his tight end right in the hands. That wasn’t a choke by Allen.
 

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If he hung in the pocket, he gets sacked without even throwing the ball. That ball hit his tight end right in the hands. That wasn’t a choke by Allen.
The receiver on the crossing route was uncovered right in front of Allen. All Allen had time for was to dump the pass immediately and take a hit. He needed to realize that backpeddling was not going to work. Better QB's like Mahomes would've taken the short throw and the hit. The receiver was so open, a completion may have gone for enough yards to put them in FG range. KC's DC was smart. Allen has a long wind up to his throws so a quick pass from him takes just a little longer. The blitz was the perfect call.
 

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It happened again! I was driving my car, listening to the radio, and the guy on the radio said that the Chiefs were going for a threepeat, "which has never happened in the NFL". Those were his exact words. He didn't mention anything about a Super Bowl, he just said a threepeat has never happened in the NFL.

:mad::tdown: :poop: :poop::poop: :poop: :poop::poop::poop: :poop: :poop::poop: :poop:

I was thinking about why MLB honors its past while the NFL pretends it didn't exist before 1967. And I realized cutting off MLB's past would mean taking away a bunch of Yankee championships. Obviously a big time media like in New York is not going to let that happen. Green Bay? No one is going to give a crap.

:poop:

I feel the same way. If the NFL got a huge billion dollar deal from Elon to change the Super Bowl to "The Musk Bowl", with the winner getting a trophy of Elon jumping in the air, would all the previous "Super Bowl" and "Lombardi's" be forgotten?

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I feel the same way. If the NFL got a huge billion dollar deal from Elon to change the Super Bowl to "The Musk Bowl", with the winner getting a trophy of Elon jumping in the air, would all the previous "Super Bowl" and "Lombardi's" be forgotten?
They could call it the Belichick Trophy.
 

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Well, speaking of duds...

A week or two ago it was sounding like he was a prime candidate to be fired....

...but no, it turns out we're actually giving an extension to Bisaccia. In addition to being special teams coordinator, Bisaccia retains his role as assistant head coach AND is being given an added role as "game management advisor". Because our in-house game management was already such a strength, I guess.

And just for a bit more... after two failed stints as OC, we're also bringing Getsy back in a full-time role as a "senior offensive assistant" or something.

Because nothing says "We have to do better, things have to change and it starts with me" like bringing back/retaining mediocre coaches because they're your buddies and you don't want to hurt anyone's feelings or something.
 

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It happened again! I was driving my car, listening to the radio, and the guy on the radio said that the Chiefs were going for a threepeat, "which has never happened in the NFL". Those were his exact words. He didn't mention anything about a Super Bowl, he just said a threepeat has never happened in the NFL.

:mad::tdown: :poop: :poop::poop: :poop: :poop::poop::poop: :poop: :poop::poop: :poop:

I was thinking about why MLB honors its past while the NFL pretends it didn't exist before 1967. And I realized cutting off MLB's past would mean taking away a bunch of Yankee championships. Obviously a big time media like in New York is not going to let that happen. Green Bay? No one is going to give a crap.

:poop:
The NBA honors its past with the Celtics and Lakers and the NHL with the Oilers and Canadiens. I don't know why the NFL ignores its past before the SB era. The NYG won 4 championships and appeared in 5 before 1965 so your theory about the NY media doesn't hold water. But you are right, it is inexplicable why the league doesn't value its history like other sports do.
 

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...but no, it turns out we're actually giving an extension to Bisaccia. In addition to being special teams coordinator, Bisaccia retains his role as assistant head coach AND is being given an added role as "game management advisor". Because our in-house game management was already such a strength, I guess.

And just for a bit more... after two failed stints as OC, we're also bringing Getsy back in a full-time role as a "senior offensive assistant" or something.

Given the absolute crap we had on Special teams prior to Bisaccia, I am actually ok with him being retained. I also would have been fine with him being fired, if they had a better coach in mind. I read an article yesterday and the Packers special teams actually wasn't as bad as our Packer eye test feels it was. I don't blame Bisaccia for the Narveson debacle, that's on Gute, as is the signing of Brandon McManus. Punting by Whelan was solid for the most part.

I think if there is a knock against Bisaccia it was for a few really bad decisions/plays on 2 kick returns and a punt coverage. Nixon is responsible for the 2 bad kick returns, both against the Eagles in each of the 2 games we played them. The 3rd was the "trick" punt return for a TD by Da Bears. Was that all on Bisaccia or just players not paying attention?

What I am waiting to hear, but don't expect it, is a change in the offensive play calling. If I am being honest with myself, I don't think it happens and Matt will once again try to call plays. Ultimately, this is what will either make or break him in Green Bay.
 

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The NYG won 4 championships and appeared in 5 before 1965 so your theory about the NY media doesn't hold water. But you are right, it is inexplicable why the league doesn't value its history like other sports do.
Good point. Chicago also has a sizeable media, and most of the Bears' success was before the Super Bowl era. Although unlike the Yankees, the Giants took a backseat to both GB's and Chicago's successes. Arguably the pre-Super Bowl era was baseball's peak, but that doesn't explain the NBA. It's baffling.

I don't know what it is, but since this past weekend football-wise I've been in an angry mood.
 

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