2023 Draft Talk

[Deleted member 6794]

While a team can never have enough good corners, I also feel a team should try to focus on immediate needs first in the early rounds.

The Packers should definitely select a player a tier above others on their board even if it doesn't fill an immediate need. They need to factor position of need into a decision with prospects within the same tier though.

I’ve felt for a long time Clark is not used properly at NT.

Clark only lined up at nose tackle on 16.6% of his snaps last season.

All in all it’s starting to feel like fun to be a Packer fan again.

I truly don't understand any Packers fan thinking that way. In my opinion the last 30 years since Favre became the starter have all been fun. They might be in for some tough years starting with Rodgers not being around anymore.

 

[PikeBadger]

You mean stay away from the schools that have had some of the most dominate teams in recent years and have produced a significant amount of high caliber NFL players. Stay away from the teams that are basically an NFL farm system? LOL Would you prefer we go back to Ted's PAC 12 school of thought and draft players from college teams that are far less likely to hit?

Imo, most are drafted earlier than they should be.
As far as drafting guys from schools out west, are you referring to the guys that have formed the core of our team? You know, guys like Rodgers, Adams, Jones, Bakhtiari, and Clark.
I haven't analyzed this closely, but I suspect that if you looked at the first and second team All-Pro players from each of the last five years, Alabama and Georgia would both be lesser represented than some of the non-celebrated schools. Just my perception.
I don't believe in drafting the helmet (except in the case of Iowa). I think Iowa players are coached differently and are very valuable professionals. I'd like the Packers to have 3 or 4 of those guys on the roster at all times.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Imo, most are drafted earlier than they should be.
As far as drafting guys from schools out west, are you referring to the guys that have formed the core of our team? You know, guys like Rodgers, Adams, Jones, Bakhtiari, and Clark.
I haven't analyzed this closely, but I suspect that if you looked at the first and second team All-Pro players from each of the last five years, Alabama and Georgia would both be lesser represented than some of the non-celebrated schools. Just my perception.
I don't believe in drafting the helmet (except in the case of Iowa). I think Iowa players are coached differently and are very valuable professionals. I'd like the Packers to have 3 or 4 of those guys on the roster at all times.

You showed a lot of restraint in your reply. PAC 12? Yeah they only gave us Rodgers, unless you want to say he played at Butte Community College before GB. (That's just another of his grudges. Apparently he wasn't respected enough at Cal.)

Hey the SEC provides a LOT of talent to the NFL - and so do other schools. Here in GB you'd be excused for thinking that GA is our AAA club, but that's just not true. The list of players you provide are mostly All Pros, and all Pro Bowlers I think.

Maybe some of these GA guys haven't lived up to their billing yet. I think Wyatt and Walker will be Pro Bowlers, if not All Pro. On and there's that guy Rashan Gary. He's pretty good. But he played at MI so, you know, limited upside......

 

[PikeBadger]

You showed a lot of restraint in your reply. PAC 12? Yeah they only gave us Rodgers, unless you want to say he played at Butte Community College before GB. (That's just another of his grudges. Apparently he wasn't respected enough at Cal.)

Hey the SEC provides a LOT of talent to the NFL - and so do other schools. Here in GB you'd be excused for thinking that GA is our AAA club, but that's just not true. The list of players you provide are mostly All Pros, and all Pro Bowlers I think.

Maybe some of these GA guys haven't lived up to their billing yet. I think Wyatt and Walker will be Pro Bowlers, if not All Pro. On and there's that guy Rashan Gary. He's pretty good. But he played at MI so, you know, limited upside......

As well as Alexander and Campbell who have also made All-Pro teams recently..

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

Imo, most are drafted earlier than they should be.
As far as drafting guys from schools out west, are you referring to the guys that have formed the core of our team? You know, guys like Rodgers, Adams, Jones, Bakhtiari, and Clark.
I haven't analyzed this closely, but I suspect that if you looked at the first and second team All-Pro players from each of the last five years, Alabama and Georgia would both be lesser represented than some of the non-celebrated schools. Just my perception.
I don't believe in drafting the helmet (except in the case of Iowa). I think Iowa players are coached differently and are very valuable professionals. I'd like the Packers to have 3 or 4 of those guys on the roster at all times.

I don't believe in drafting by helmet either, but I do believe in drafting by conference. SEC has proved time and time time again that they produce more NFL ready players than pretty much any other conference besides maybe the Big 10. If you noticed there's a pattern in the players you listed, all but one are offensive players. Pac 12 definitely has produced offensive talent over the years, but if you want defense, you go to a conference like the SEC. We historically neglected that conference and our core defense definitely reflected it in the TT years. SEC has always been a tough, smash mouth conference with the best defenses and that's where you want to pluck from.

 

[tynimiller]

The conference or level of reps against are PIVOTAL in projecting guys. PIVOTAL. Can make a massive impact on how well you envision the prospect doing or being at the next level.

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

As well as Alexander and Campbell who have also made All-Pro teams recently..

Imo, most are drafted earlier than they should be.
As far as drafting guys from schools out west, are you referring to the guys that have formed the core of our team? You know, guys like Rodgers, Adams, Jones, Bakhtiari, and Clark.
I haven't analyzed this closely, but I suspect that if you looked at the first and second team All-Pro players from each of the last five years, Alabama and Georgia would both be lesser represented than some of the non-celebrated schools. Just my perception.
I don't believe in drafting the helmet (except in the case of Iowa). I think Iowa players are coached differently and are very valuable professionals. I'd like the Packers to have 3 or 4 of those guys on the roster at all times.

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This was last years All Pro defense. Chris Jones, Quinnen Williams, Roquan Smith, Patrick Surtain II, and Minkah Fitzpatrick are all from the SEC. Micah Parsons and Nick Bosa are from the Big 10. That's 7 of 11 players out of either the SEC or Big 10.

 

[tynimiller]

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This was last years All Pro defense. Chris Jones, Quinnen Williams, Roquan Smith, Patrick Surtain II, and Minkah Fitzpatrick are all from the SEC. Micah Parsons and Nick Bosa are from the Big 10. That's 7 of 11 players out of either the SEC or Big 10.

And to take it a step further the remaining were from: USC, Boston College, BYU, Cincinnati. One historical powerhouse (USC)...leaving three "lessor schools" in lessor conferences.

 

[Heyjoe4]

As well as Alexander and Campbell who have also made All-Pro teams recently..

Yeah I mean even the most complete college team couldn’t touch a pro team. GMs pick talent based on need, wherever the talent is. Do they always take the BPA? I kinda doubt it. Do some schools produce more NFL players. Sure.

The conference or level of reps against are PIVOTAL in projecting guys. PIVOTAL. Can make a massive impact on how well you envision the prospect doing or being at the next level.

Good point. Level of competition makes a big difference in how quickly a guy can produce in the NFL. Look at Adams, out of Fresno State. It took him three years to develop. Look at the WRs coming out of OSU. These guys seem ready day 1 partly because they play against solid opponents. (No Big 10 jokes please......)

 

[tynimiller]

As well as Alexander and Campbell who have also made All-Pro teams recently..

It's still somewhat early but here soon can we unsticky last years selection threads when any mods get a chance? Before we know it we will have this year's.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I haven't analyzed this closely, but I suspect that if you looked at the first and second team All-Pro players from each of the last five years, Alabama and Georgia would both be lesser represented than some of the non-celebrated schools. Just my perception.

Your perception isn't correct.

At least not in the sense of what NCAA college football programs had the most players on NFL rosters in 2022. The "All-Pro" part, probably changes every year, but I would guess that the number of players shifts up and down, but the teams you see on this list, are always well represented.

College programs with the most NFL players 2022 | Statista

College football is seen as the final stepping stone for student athletes before hitting the big time in the NFL.

www.statista.com

Add on: Just did a quick check on Pro Bowlers, seems like The Buckeyes, at least in 2021 were the program that held that mark.

College teams with the most former players named to Pro Bowl rosters for 2021 season

Ranking the college teams that have more than one player named to the NFL’s Pro Bowl for this season.

buckeyeswire.usatoday.com

 

[Heyjoe4]

Your perception isn't correct.

At least not in the sense of what NCAA college football programs had the most players on NFL rosters in 2022. The "All-Pro" part, probably changes every year, but I would guess that the number of players shifts up and down, but the teams you see on this list, are always well represented.

College programs with the most NFL players 2022 | Statista

College football is seen as the final stepping stone for student athletes before hitting the big time in the NFL.

www.statista.com

Add on: Just did a quick check on Pro Bowlers, seems like The Buckeyes, at least in 2021 were the program that held that mark.

College teams with the most former players named to Pro Bowl rosters for 2021 season

Ranking the college teams that have more than one player named to the NFL’s Pro Bowl for this season.

buckeyeswire.usatoday.com

I don't have any numbers or data other than what you provided (thanks), but your number confirms what I expected - the SEC and OSU send a lot of players to the NFL.

 

[Dantés]

Players from 2018-2022 All-Pro Teams (5 year sample; 134 players):

Quarterback:

Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech
Jalen Hurts, Oklahoma
Aaron Rodgers, Cal
Tom Brady, Michigan
Josh Allen, Wyoming
Lamar Jackson, Louisville
Russell Wilson, Wisconsin
Drew Brees, Purdue

Running Back:

Josh Jacobs, Alabama
Nick Chubb, Georgia
Jonathan Taylor, Wisconsin
Derrick Henry, Alabama
Alvin Kamara, Tennessee
Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
Todd Gurley, Georgia
Saquon Barkley, Penn State
Ezekiel Elliott, Ohio State

Tight End:

Travis Kelce, Cincinnati
George Kittle, Iowa
Mark Andrews, Oklahoma
Zach Ertz, Stanford

Wide Receiver:

Justin Jefferson, LSU
Tyreek Hill, West Alabama
Davante Adams, Fresno State
A.J. Brown, Mississippi
Stefon Diggs, Maryland
Ceedee Lamb, Oklahoma
Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington
Deebo Samuel, South Carolina
Ja'Marr Chase, Clemson
DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson
Calvin Ridley, Alabama
D.K. Metcalf, Mississippi
Cole Beasley, SMU
Michael Thomas, Ohio State
Julio Jones, Alabama
Chris Godwin, Penn State

Offensive Line:

Trent Williams, Oklahoma
Lane Johnson, Oklahoma
Joel Bitonio, Nevada
Zack Martin, Notre Dame
Jason Kelce, Cincinnati
Andrew Thomas, Georgia
Tristan Wirfs, Iowa
Joe Thuney, N.C. State
Chris Lindstrom, Boston College
Creed Humphrey, Oklahoma
Rashawn Slater, Northwestern
Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame
Wyatt Teller, Virginia Tech
Corey Linsley, Ohio State
David Bakhtiari, Colorado
Jack Conklin, Michigan State
Brandon Scherff, Iowa
Garett Bolles, Utah
Ryan Ramczyk, Wisconsin
Ryan Kelly, Alabama
Frank Ragnow, Arkansas
Ronnie Stanley, Notre Dame
Mitchell Scwartz, Cal
Marshal Yanda, Iowa
Rodney Hudson, Florida State
Duane Brown, Virginia Tech
Terron Armstead, Ark-Pine Bluff
Maurkice Pouney, Florida
Tyron Smith, USC

Edge:

Nick Bosa, Ohio State
Micah Parsons, Penn State
Myles Garrett, Texas AM
Haason Red****, Temple
T.J. Watt, Wisconsin
Robert Quinn, UNC
Maxx Crosby, Eastern Michigan
Khalil Mack, Buffalo
Za'Darius Smith, Kentucky
Chandler Jones, Syracuse
Shaq Barrett, Colorado State
Cameron Jordan, Cal
J.J. Watt, Wisconsin
Danielle Hunter, LSU
Von Miller, Texas AM

Interior DL:

Chris Jones, Mississippi State
Quinnen Williams, Alabama
Dexter Lawrence, Clemson
Jeffery Simmons, Mississippi State
Aaron Donald, Pittsburgh
Cameron Heyward, Ohio State
DeForest Buckner, Oregon
Grady Jarrett, Clemson
Fletcher Cox, Mississippi State

Linebacker:

Fred Warner, BYU
Roquan Smith, Georgia
Matt Milano, Boston College
Bobby Wagner, Utah State
C.J. Mosley, Alabama
Demario Davis, Arkansas State
Darius Leonard, South Carolina State
De'Vondre Campbell, Minnesota
Devin White, LSU
Lavonte David, Nebraska
Eric Kendricks, UCLA
Luke Kuechly, Boston College
Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State

Cornerback:

Sauce Gardner, Cincinnati
Patrick Surtain, Alabama
Jaire Alexander, Louisville
James Bradberry, Samford
Trevon Diggs, Alabama
Jalen Ramsey, Florida State
J.C. Jackson, Maryland
A.J. Terrell, Clemson
Xavien Howard, Baylor
Tre'Davious White, LSU
Stephon Gilmore, South Carolina
Marcus Peters, Washington
Marlon Humphrey, Alabama
Richard Sherman, Stanford
Kyle Fuller, Virginia Tech
Desmond King, Iowa
Patrick Peterson, LSU
Byron Jones, Connecticut

Safety:

Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama
Talanoa Hufanga, USC
Derwin James, Florida State
Justin Simmons, Boston College
Kevin Byard, Middle Tennessee
Jordan Poyer, Oregon State
Micah Hyde, Iowa
Budda Baker, Washington
Tyrann Mathieu, LSU
Jamal Adams, LSU
Jessie Bates, Wake Forest
Eddie Jackson, Alabama
Harrison Smith, Notre Dame

Conference Breakdown:

-SEC: 36 (27%)
-BIG 10: 26 (19%)
-ACC: 23 (17%)
-PAC 12: 15 (11%)
-G5: 15 (11%)
-BIG 12: 9 (7%)
-FCS: 6 (4%)
-Notre Dame: 4 (3%)

By Notable School:

-Alabama: 13
-LSU: 7
-Oklahoma: 6
-Iowa: 6
-Ohio State: 5
-Wisconsin: 5
-Clemson: 5
-Georgia: 4
-Notre Dame: 4
-Boston College: 4
-Penn State: 3
-Cincinnati: 3
-Mississippi State: 3

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

Players from 2018-2022 All-Pro Teams (5 year sample; 134 players):

Quarterback:

Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech
Jalen Hurts, Oklahoma
Aaron Rodgers, Cal
Tom Brady, Michigan
Josh Allen, Wyoming
Lamar Jackson, Louisville
Russell Wilson, Wisconsin
Drew Brees, Purdue

Running Back:

Josh Jacobs, Alabama
Nick Chubb, Georgia
Jonathan Taylor, Wisconsin
Derrick Henry, Alabama
Alvin Kamara, Tennessee
Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
Todd Gurley, Georgia
Saquon Barkley, Penn State
Ezekiel Elliott, Ohio State

Tight End:

Travis Kelce, Cincinnati
George Kittle, Iowa
Mark Andrews, Oklahoma
Zach Ertz, Stanford

Wide Receiver:

Justin Jefferson, LSU
Tyreek Hill, West Alabama
Davante Adams, Fresno State
A.J. Brown, Mississippi
Stefon Diggs, Maryland
Ceedee Lamb, Oklahoma
Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington
Deebo Samuel, South Carolina
Ja'Marr Chase, Clemson
DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson
Calvin Ridley, Alabama
D.K. Metcalf, Mississippi
Cole Beasley, SMU
Michael Thomas, Ohio State
Julio Jones, Alabama
Chris Godwin, Penn State

Offensive Line:

Trent Williams, Oklahoma
Lane Johnson, Oklahoma
Joel Bitonio, Nevada
Zack Martin, Notre Dame
Jason Kelce, Cincinnati
Andrew Thomas, Georgia
Tristan Wirfs, Iowa
Joe Thuney, N.C. State
Chris Lindstrom, Boston College
Creed Humphrey, Oklahoma
Rashawn Slater, Northwestern
Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame
Wyatt Teller, Virginia Tech
Corey Linsley, Ohio State
David Bakhtiari, Colorado
Jack Conklin, Michigan State
Brandon Scherff, Iowa
Garett Bolles, Utah
Ryan Ramczyk, Wisconsin
Ryan Kelly, Alabama
Frank Ragnow, Arkansas
Ronnie Stanley, Notre Dame
Mitchell Scwartz, Cal
Marshal Yanda, Iowa
Rodney Hudson, Florida State
Duane Brown, Virginia Tech
Terron Armstead, Ark-Pine Bluff
Maurkice Pouney, Florida
Tyron Smith, USC

Edge:

Nick Bosa, Ohio State
Micah Parsons, Penn State
Myles Garrett, Texas AM
Haason Red****, Temple
T.J. Watt, Wisconsin
Robert Quinn, UNC
Maxx Crosby, Eastern Michigan
Khalil Mack, Buffalo
Za'Darius Smith, Kentucky
Chandler Jones, Syracuse
Shaq Barrett, Colorado State
Cameron Jordan, Cal
J.J. Watt, Wisconsin
Danielle Hunter, LSU
Von Miller, Texas AM

Interior DL:

Chris Jones, Mississippi State
Quinnen Williams, Alabama
Dexter Lawrence, Clemson
Jeffery Simmons, Mississippi State
Aaron Donald, Pittsburgh
Cameron Heyward, Ohio State
DeForest Buckner, Oregon
Grady Jarrett, Clemson
Fletcher Cox, Mississippi State

Linebacker:

Fred Warner, BYU
Roquan Smith, Georgia
Matt Milano, Boston College
Bobby Wagner, Utah State
C.J. Mosley, Alabama
Demario Davis, Arkansas State
Darius Leonard, South Carolina State
De'Vondre Campbell, Minnesota
Devin White, LSU
Lavonte David, Nebraska
Eric Kendricks, UCLA
Luke Kuechly, Boston College
Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State

Cornerback:

Sauce Gardner, Cincinnati
Patrick Surtain, Alabama
Jaire Alexander, Louisville
James Bradberry, Samford
Trevon Diggs, Alabama
Jalen Ramsey, Florida State
J.C. Jackson, Maryland
A.J. Terrell, Clemson
Xavien Howard, Baylor
Tre'Davious White, LSU
Stephon Gilmore, South Carolina
Marcus Peters, Washington
Marlon Humphrey, Alabama
Richard Sherman, Stanford
Kyle Fuller, Virginia Tech
Desmond King, Iowa
Patrick Peterson, LSU
Byron Jones, Connecticut

Safety:

Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama
Talanoa Hufanga, USC
Derwin James, Florida State
Justin Simmons, Boston College
Kevin Byard, Middle Tennessee
Jordan Poyer, Oregon State
Micah Hyde, Iowa
Budda Baker, Washington
Tyrann Mathieu, LSU
Jamal Adams, LSU
Jessie Bates, Wake Forest
Eddie Jackson, Alabama
Harrison Smith, Notre Dame

Conference Breakdown:

-SEC: 36 (27%)
-BIG 10: 26 (19%)
-ACC: 23 (17%)
-PAC 12: 15 (11%)
-G5: 15 (11%)
-BIG 12: 9 (7%)
-FCS: 6 (4%)
-Notre Dame: 4 (3%)

By Notable School:

-Alabama: 13
-LSU: 7
-Oklahoma: 6
-Iowa: 6
-Ohio State: 5
-Wisconsin: 5
-Clemson: 5
-Georgia: 4
-Notre Dame: 4
-Boston College: 4
-Penn State: 3
-Cincinnati: 3
-Mississippi State: 3

My biggest takeaway from this, draft interior DL from Miss State lol

 

[tynimiller]

My biggest takeaway from this, draft interior DL from Miss State lol

DBs from Bama are even a bigger takeaway also

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

DBs from Bama are even a bigger takeaway also

Yup, and LSU actually isn't far behind. Speaking of LSU, you have Chase listed as Clemson instead of LSU. Otherwise, outstanding analytical work as always.

 

[tynimiller]

Yup, and LSU actually isn't far behind. Speaking of LSU, you have Chase listed as Clemson instead of LSU. Otherwise, outstanding analytical work as always.

I didn’t post it lol but “thanks”

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

I didn’t post it lol but “thanks”

My bad! You and Dantes are always posting good content so I just assumed lol

 

[tynimiller]

My bad! You and Dantes are always posting good content so I just assumed lol

Getting confused with Dantés is always welcome, it’s a blessing.

 

[PikeBadger]

It's still somewhat early but here soon can we unsticky last years selection threads when any mods get a chance? Before we know it we will have this year's.

Nag, nag, nag.

 

[PikeBadger]

Players from 2018-2022 All-Pro Teams (5 year sample; 134 players):

Quarterback:

Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech
Jalen Hurts, Oklahoma
Aaron Rodgers, Cal
Tom Brady, Michigan
Josh Allen, Wyoming
Lamar Jackson, Louisville
Russell Wilson, Wisconsin
Drew Brees, Purdue

Running Back:

Josh Jacobs, Alabama
Nick Chubb, Georgia
Jonathan Taylor, Wisconsin
Derrick Henry, Alabama
Alvin Kamara, Tennessee
Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
Todd Gurley, Georgia
Saquon Barkley, Penn State
Ezekiel Elliott, Ohio State

Tight End:

Travis Kelce, Cincinnati
George Kittle, Iowa
Mark Andrews, Oklahoma
Zach Ertz, Stanford

Wide Receiver:

Justin Jefferson, LSU
Tyreek Hill, West Alabama
Davante Adams, Fresno State
A.J. Brown, Mississippi
Stefon Diggs, Maryland
Ceedee Lamb, Oklahoma
Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington
Deebo Samuel, South Carolina
Ja'Marr Chase, Clemson
DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson
Calvin Ridley, Alabama
D.K. Metcalf, Mississippi
Cole Beasley, SMU
Michael Thomas, Ohio State
Julio Jones, Alabama
Chris Godwin, Penn State

Offensive Line:

Trent Williams, Oklahoma
Lane Johnson, Oklahoma
Joel Bitonio, Nevada
Zack Martin, Notre Dame
Jason Kelce, Cincinnati
Andrew Thomas, Georgia
Tristan Wirfs, Iowa
Joe Thuney, N.C. State
Chris Lindstrom, Boston College
Creed Humphrey, Oklahoma
Rashawn Slater, Northwestern
Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame
Wyatt Teller, Virginia Tech
Corey Linsley, Ohio State
David Bakhtiari, Colorado
Jack Conklin, Michigan State
Brandon Scherff, Iowa
Garett Bolles, Utah
Ryan Ramczyk, Wisconsin
Ryan Kelly, Alabama
Frank Ragnow, Arkansas
Ronnie Stanley, Notre Dame
Mitchell Scwartz, Cal
Marshal Yanda, Iowa
Rodney Hudson, Florida State
Duane Brown, Virginia Tech
Terron Armstead, Ark-Pine Bluff
Maurkice Pouney, Florida
Tyron Smith, USC

Edge:

Nick Bosa, Ohio State
Micah Parsons, Penn State
Myles Garrett, Texas AM
Haason Red****, Temple
T.J. Watt, Wisconsin
Robert Quinn, UNC
Maxx Crosby, Eastern Michigan
Khalil Mack, Buffalo
Za'Darius Smith, Kentucky
Chandler Jones, Syracuse
Shaq Barrett, Colorado State
Cameron Jordan, Cal
J.J. Watt, Wisconsin
Danielle Hunter, LSU
Von Miller, Texas AM

Interior DL:

Chris Jones, Mississippi State
Quinnen Williams, Alabama
Dexter Lawrence, Clemson
Jeffery Simmons, Mississippi State
Aaron Donald, Pittsburgh
Cameron Heyward, Ohio State
DeForest Buckner, Oregon
Grady Jarrett, Clemson
Fletcher Cox, Mississippi State

Linebacker:

Fred Warner, BYU
Roquan Smith, Georgia
Matt Milano, Boston College
Bobby Wagner, Utah State
C.J. Mosley, Alabama
Demario Davis, Arkansas State
Darius Leonard, South Carolina State
De'Vondre Campbell, Minnesota
Devin White, LSU
Lavonte David, Nebraska
Eric Kendricks, UCLA
Luke Kuechly, Boston College
Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State

Cornerback:

Sauce Gardner, Cincinnati
Patrick Surtain, Alabama
Jaire Alexander, Louisville
James Bradberry, Samford
Trevon Diggs, Alabama
Jalen Ramsey, Florida State
J.C. Jackson, Maryland
A.J. Terrell, Clemson
Xavien Howard, Baylor
Tre'Davious White, LSU
Stephon Gilmore, South Carolina
Marcus Peters, Washington
Marlon Humphrey, Alabama
Richard Sherman, Stanford
Kyle Fuller, Virginia Tech
Desmond King, Iowa
Patrick Peterson, LSU
Byron Jones, Connecticut

Safety:

Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama
Talanoa Hufanga, USC
Derwin James, Florida State
Justin Simmons, Boston College
Kevin Byard, Middle Tennessee
Jordan Poyer, Oregon State
Micah Hyde, Iowa
Budda Baker, Washington
Tyrann Mathieu, LSU
Jamal Adams, LSU
Jessie Bates, Wake Forest
Eddie Jackson, Alabama
Harrison Smith, Notre Dame

Conference Breakdown:

-SEC: 36 (27%)
-BIG 10: 26 (19%)
-ACC: 23 (17%)
-PAC 12: 15 (11%)
-G5: 15 (11%)
-BIG 12: 9 (7%)
-FCS: 6 (4%)
-Notre Dame: 4 (3%)

By Notable School:

-Alabama: 13
-LSU: 7
-Oklahoma: 6
-Iowa: 6
-Ohio State: 5
-Wisconsin: 5
-Clemson: 5
-Georgia: 4
-Notre Dame: 4
-Boston College: 4
-Penn State: 3
-Cincinnati: 3
-Mississippi State: 3

Dantes, were these 1st and 2nd team all-pro for last 5 seasons? Or just the 1st team? What organization made the picks?

 

[tynimiller]

Nag, nag, nag.

LOL whatever

 

[Dantés]

Dantes, were these 1st and 2nd team all-pro for last 5 seasons? Or just the 1st team? What organization made the picks?

Yeah it’s the 1st and 2nd teams of the AP All Pros.

 

[OldSchool101]

I didn't know about this guy, thanks. I like the MI guy, Jake Moody? Something like that. It's just time to move on from Crosby. His FG kicking is still solid, but he rarely puts a kickoff in the end zone.

That’s something I’d like to address.

Do you think Graham Gano, Nick Folk and Michael Badgley all be sent walking? They both had KO distance averages about the same or worse than Mason Crosby in last season.

I could see offering him less $$. but we could do a lot worse imo and Kickers cracking the top half of the league don’t just grow on trees.

 

[Schultz]

IMO. If they think they have a team that will be competitive I can see sticking with Crosby. If they feel next seasons' priority is evaluating Love I could see grooming a new younger kicker of the future and saving a little money in the process. IMO.