2017 roster cuts

[HardRightEdge]

I understand Barclay is expected to be back by week 2-3. He actually had a pretty good camp until the injury and, sadly, is our #1 back up in the interior line. Sure wouldn't IR him with our complete lack of depth there.

These injuries often turn out worse than appears.

 

[Poppa San]

Glad Janis made it! Shout out to the h8rs lol jk

Not many doubted he'd make it on special teams ability.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I understand Barclay is expected to be back by week 2-3. He actually had a pretty good camp until the injury and, sadly, is our #1 back up in the interior line. Sure wouldn't IR him with our complete lack of depth there.

By week 2 or 3, when the "Barc" is back.........run the table!! It is funny how people are worried about getting Barclay back, weren't we just talking about "when are the Packers getting rid of Barclay"?

Glad Janis made it! Shout out to the h8rs lol jk

I have heard a bit about this Janis guy, he sounds like an up-n-comer!

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Isn't this like rubbing salt in a guys wounds? His career is most likely over and the NFL decides to suspend him for the first 2 games of the season? Does anyone in the NFL's front office know that Sam Shields is currently not on a team?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...elds-suspended-for-first-two-games-of-season/

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I know g-mo will be added once his "insane in the brain" suspension is up. now what do we do with janis and davis. mc goes to PS. trade davis and put mc on roster! that's what we do!

The Packers will keep Davis and Janis on the roster and move on with six wide receivers on once they activate Allison.

Keeping Pipkins and cutting McCaffrey. Somebody needs to explain that one.

Of course no one within the Packers organization will provide such an explanation.

I didn't watch a lot of Pipkins. I think he had a pick in one game?

Pipkins didn't have an interception during the preseason but recorded a total of 11 solo tackles. PFF had him on their team on the week once so maybe Thompson finally getting an account resulted in the team keeping him.

By week 2 or 3, when the "Barc" is back.........run the table!! It is funny how people are worried about getting Barclay back, weren't we just talking about "when are the Packers getting rid of Barclay"?

Actually fans yearning for Barclay's return is a pretty strong indicator for a complete lack of quality depth on the offensive line.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Actually fans yearning for Barclay's return is a pretty strong indicator for a complete lack of quality depth on the offensive line.

Yup, that was kind of my point....

I have read a few things that indicate to me that the Packers are looking for outside help on the OL and DL. So it wouldn't surprise me to see them go out and sign a Boone or John Greco. I actually like the idea of Boone, but don't know enough about him. Seattle let Rubin go. Again, I don't know enough about the guy, except he was pretty decent in Seattle and expendable with the trade for Richardson.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Pipkins didn't have an interception during the preseason but recorded a total of 11 solo tackles. PFF had him on their team on the week once so maybe Thompson finally getting an account resulted in the team keeping him.

I would wager to guess that if the Packers pick up someone off waivers or sign a vested FA, Pipkins might be the first to go.

 

[Poppa San]

I would wager to guess that if the Packers pick up someone off waivers or sign a vested FA, Pipkins might be the first to go.

Granted he might be one of the first handful, I do not think he is #53 on the roster. Barclay could still be IRd along with Adams. Ted kept 2 other C/Gs instead of one. This tells me Barclay could be out a while, especially if, as someone noted elsewhere, he is still using the scooter for his leg. If TT brings in a stopgap C/G vet, both Patrick and McCray could be expendable. Also none of the rookie RBs shouldn't be buying a house in GB just yet.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Granted he might be one of the first handful, I do not think he is #53 on the roster. Barclay could still be IRd along with Adams. Ted kept 2 other C/Gs instead of one. This tells me Barclay could be out a while, especially if, as someone noted elsewhere, he is still using the scooter for his leg. If TT brings in a stopgap C/G vet, both Patrick and McCray could be expendable. Also none of the rookie RBs shouldn't be buying a house in GB just yet.

You could be right, I should have said "of the healthy players, Pipkins might be the first to go"

I expect a few moves over the next few days that will change the final 53. Most likely the OL and possibly the DL will see changes.

Mays was actually a surprise to me as finalist on the 53. I figured he would be an easy release and resign to the PS. Do we really need 3 RB's (4 if you consider FB a RB) on the 53? He must have looked really good in practice, because I don't recall seeing him do much in the preseason.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Of course no one within the Packers organization will provide such an explanation.

Clearly. It was a rhetorical question.

 

[Sky King]

You could be right, I should have said "of the healthy players, Pipkins might be the first to go"

I expect a few moves over the next few days that will change the final 53. Most likely the OL and possibly the DL will see changes.

Mays was actually a surprise to me as finalist on the 53. I figured he would be an easy release and resign to the PS. Do we really need 3 RB's (4 if you consider FB a RB) on the 53? He must have looked really good in practice, because I don't recall seeing him do much in the preseason.

I've wondered why he was not cut in favor of a few others, as well. TT gamesmanship, perhaps? If he got cut yesterday he may be have been added to some other team's 53 later today. Waiting a day or more may settle other teams' rosters just enough that the Packers could more safely cut him, then offer him a spot on their PS.

 

[HardRightEdge]

I've wondered why he was not cut in favor of a few others, as well. TT gamesmanship, perhaps? If he got cut yesterday he may be have been added to some other team's 53 later today. Waiting a day or more may settle other teams' rosters just enough that the Packers could more safely cut him, then offer him a spot on their PS.

Here's the best I can come up with:

If there was one fresh theme in this preseason it was D-backfield aggressiveness. Pipkin fits the theme.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Do we really need 3 RB's (4 if you consider FB a RB) on the 53?.

There are 5. Did you forget Montgomery?

I think they're still in the evaluation process. Williams is the best pass blocker among all of these RBs which gives him priority among the backups. He runs a nice route on chip-and-release as well. He's been a little disappointing in the run game. While the holes have been scarce, part of the problem is he needs to develop some patience to allow the hole to develop in zone blocking. Without it, he's fairly limited to "3rd. down" and "1 yard to go" duty, not a true #2 backup in the event of a Montgomery injury. Between Jones and Mays, I think Jones is the better between-the-tackles runner and receiver; Mays looks to be more patient and sets up blocks on stretch-then-cutback runs. They both need work on pass blocking.

We're probably only one or two short term injuries at other positions before a decision is made to release one of these guys with a move to the practice squad. That's easier to do once everybody else has set their roster and PS. Then you've got financial issues in the hundreds of thousands of dollars once season salaries are guaranteed

Maybe they're all special teams demons; I have not noticed. However, it would be hard to cover all of the backup positions on the 45 man game day roster with 4 RBs.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

There are 5. Did you forget Montgomery?

LOL.....good catch on my precaffinated post. I did mean THAT many With one one of the 4...can I call them Half Backs?....having experience and really not a ton of it, just seems odd to have 4 HB's on the 53, when more than likely, Mays could have been put on the PS or another RB of equal caliber would probably be available to be picked up.

Last year is probably firmly in TT's mind, but not sure having 3 rookie HB's for depth is the answer.

 

[Sky King]

Here's the best I can come up with:

If there was one fresh theme in this preseason it was D-backfield aggressiveness. Pipkin fits the theme.

Here's one thing we know for sure: For sure TT is not going to explain any of it.

 

[swhitset]

LOL.....good catch on my precaffinated post. I did mean THAT many With one one of the 4...can I call them Half Backs?....having experience and really not a ton of it, just seems odd to have 4 HB's on the 53, when more than likely, Mays could have been put on the PS or another RB of equal caliber would probably be available to be picked up.

Last year is probably firmly in TT's mind, but not sure having 3 rookie HB's for depth is the answer.

The last clause of your last sentences is what made me hit the agree button.

 

[HardRightEdge]

LOL.....good catch on my precaffinated post. I did mean THAT many With one one of the 4...can I call them Half Backs?....having experience and really not a ton of it, just seems odd to have 4 HB's on the 53, when more than likely, Mays could have been put on the PS or another RB of equal caliber would probably be available to be picked up.

Last year is probably firmly in TT's mind, but not sure having 3 rookie HB's for depth is the answer.

No, you should stick with "running back". "Halfback" became "tailback" which became "running back" going back decades. I don't think halfback has been in usage since the T-formation met it's untimely death.

 

[Sky King]

Halfbacks are snowbirds who used to spend the best seasons between parts North and Florida. They would stay overnight at the mid-point of their journeys, often TN or NC. They discovered that living in one very pleasant place 'year round was less costly than maintaining two very distant places. Or, it was a football position lined-up near the fullback back in the day.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

So if I have to stick with calling all these guys in the backfield "RB's"? Why is there still a designation for "FB's"? I read that we kept "5 RB's", yet one of them is a FB, so isn't that "we kept 4 RB's and a FB"?......good thing we don't have any H-backs on the team.......terminology terminology lol

 

[HardRightEdge]

Halfbacks are snowbirds who used to spend the best seasons between parts North and Florida. They would stay overnight at the mid-point of their journeys, often TN or NC.

That is an attractive option for some. Southerly, but in the lower mountains or mountain valleys where it stays cooler in the summer. You don't want to be a summer flatlander in these places.

Asheville, NC is an example. You do have to be amenable to the north-south culture clashes in these tweener locations. Charlottesville would be an example of that.

I prefer a middle ground approach...a 2 month rental in Florida in February and March...play golf, enjoy the sun, then get the h*ll out. I'll leave the real estate speculation/rental headaches to the other guy.

I guess that makes me an H-back.

 

[Sky King]

That is an attractive option for some. Southerly, but in the lower mountains or mountain valleys where it stays cooler in the summer. You don't want to be a summer flatlander in these places.

Asheville, NC is an example. You do have to be amenable to the north-south culture clashes in these tweener locations. Charlottesville would be an example.

I prefer a middle ground approach...a 2 month rental in Florida in February and March...play golf, enjoy the sun, then get the h*ll out. I'll leave the real estate speculation/rental headaches to the other guy.

I guess that makes me an H-back.

We spent much of the Summer in Knoxville. It beat the NV desert all to heck. We'll be going back. The two map positions probably make my wife and I flankers.

 

[Dantés]

Generally speaking, this isn't exactly how I would have drawn it up. Nor would I necessarily argue that every move was the right one. But if you are finding yourself seriously upset about the 50th through 53rd roster spots, I think you're a little too deep in the weeds.

One thing that's apparent to me-- the Packers are not going to be caught with their pants down at RB or CB against if they can help it. At corner especially, the way the top guys took turns being nicked up probably dictated the decision to keep so many guys. And I will say that Pipkins had some impressive moments.

The lack of a true backup NT speaks to how little this team runs the base 3-4.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

One thing that's apparent to me-- the Packers are not going to be caught with their pants down at RB

While on the surface it may seem that way, but heading into the regular season, they are far less experienced at RB right now, than they were last year at this time with Lacy and Starks on the roster. So yes, # of bodies at RB is up, but I'm not so sure I would say we couldn't get caught with our pants around our ankles at RB this year due to a lot of inexperience at the position.

 

[Dantés]

While on the surface it may seem that way, but heading into the regular season, they are far less experienced at RB right now, than they were last year at this time with Lacy and Starks on the roster. So yes, # of bodies at RB is up, but I'm not so sure I would say we couldn't get caught with our pants around our ankles at RB this year due to a lot of inexperience at the position.

You cut my quote off too early bud. "If they can help it." I was referring more to the quantity kept than the quality.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

You cut my quote off too early bud. "If they can help it." I was referring more to the quantity kept than the quality.

LOL..sorry.....but my statement really doesn't change with that. The quantity of RB's is always there, we saw that last year. To have "helped it" over what happened in 2016, they would have done something in advance, like sign a Vet to back up Monty and then 1-2 rookies for depth. I'm not complaining about the 3 rookies, but really the Packers may have set themselves up for another "pants around the ankles" at RB similar to last year due to lack of experience at the position, something they could have "helped" themselves to avoid.