2017 Draft/FA Needs

[Pokerbrat2000]

I dont want Lacy, Hyde or a 10 million dollar guard. Tretter can replace Lang and use the draft to replace the others.

I want a true no.1 corner that can match up against other teams no.1's so we stopped getting embarassed so much on defense. Its about time we upgraded

So who do you replace Lacy and Hyde with?

What happens if Gilmore gets injured or doesn't live up to his contract?

 

[brandon2348]

This **** wont be funny when losses start piling up against Chicago and playoffs are missed.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

This **** wont be funny when losses start piling up against Chicago and playoffs are missed.

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See....now you are starting to see the light, the last 8 consecutive years of playoffs and the errors of your ways!

 

[brandon2348]

So who do you replace Lacy and Hyde with?

What happens if Gilmore gets injured or doesn't live up to his contract?

If you looked at my Mock I addressed RB and DB depth. I also addresed the defense getting faster in middle and adding edge rush. I see an opportunity to make the Packers faster in the slot in mid rounds as well.

What if Gilmore gets hurt? Hopefully not the same thing as when Shields got hurt because the pass rush will be better and defense will be faster in the middle with Red****. Even with all of these upgrades they will still need Randle and Rollins to rebound as well.

My blue print doesnt guarantee a championship but it does tilt tbe odds in Packers favor and thats what needs to start happening.

 

[brandon2348]

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See....now you are starting to see the light, the last 8 consecutive years of playoffs and the errors of your ways!

Whats so great about squeeking into the playoffs and getting embarrassed?

I guess expectations have changed.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Whats so great about squeeking into the playoffs and getting embarrassed?

I guess expectations have changed.

I guess for the fans of the 20 teams that didn't make it, great. And for those fans of the 28 teams that were watching the conference championships....even greater?

 

[brandon2348]

I guess for the fans of the 20 teams that didn't make it, great. And for those fans of the 28 teams that were watching the conference championships....even greater?

Once again I would be fine with all this if this team didn't have Aaron Rodgers but to just waste a guys career away that is so so good because of some stick up TT's *** principal is sad.

 

[Mondio]

Once again I would be fine with all this if this team didn't have Aaron Rodgers but to just waste a guys career away that is so so good because of some stick up TT's *** principal is sad.

whatever man. You cheapen everything about a team and the sport of football every time you post recently. Aaron has plenty of reasons to point directly at himself the first 6 weeks of the season as to why they're were playing Atlanta on the road as anyone else. and things happened this year, and things happened last year and in 2014 we were stacked, we were healthy and the players didn't get it done. Blame the defense, blame the special teams, blame Ted, but Rodgers couldnt' score a TD either.

 

[bigbubbatd]

Whats so great about squeeking into the playoffs and getting embarrassed?

I guess expectations have changed.

You mean winning the division and taking out one of the best teams in football and then getting embarrassed right? I know the goal is to win a super bowl but to finish as one of the top 4 teams in the NFL isnt easy like you seem to think. The Packers need to upgrade the pass rush and secondary but there are definitely pieces there to make a run

 

[brandon2348]

You mean winning the division and taking out one of the best teams in football and then getting embarrassed right? I know the goal is to win a super bowl but to finish as one of the top 4 teams in the NFL isnt easy like you seem to think. The Packers need to upgrade the pass rush and secondary but there are definitely pieces there to make a run

Yes, there are serious pieces in place to make a run and thats why its so frustrating to see things not solidified because of current tatics and draft philosophies on defense.

 

[longtimefan]

You know what? Go **** yourself. Nothing changed on the fly or otherwise; simple math working within a parameter of rules( the cap) with brief explanations of how you do it for this year and next, without spending the next 5 hours typing every ******* detail of every ******* contract. But no, it doesn't make sense, certainly not to such a super genius as yourself.
I've tried to play nice with you, but you are far too wrapped up in your own genius and intellectual superiority for that to work with mere mortals such as the rest of .
So, again, go **** yourself.

Sigh...


Please ignore each other.. There is no need to act this way

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I would like Thompson to take more calculated risks this offseason to improve the team's chances of winning a Super Bowl but with Rodgers still planning on playing several seasons there's no reason to go all-in and end up in cap hell down the road.

That approach should be taken once #12 is close to the end of his career as it's almost guaranteed the team will need at least a year of rebuilding with a different starting quarterback allowing the general manager to right the cap situation by releasing overpaid players before that transition season.

 

[brandon2348]

I would like Thompson to take more calculated risks this offseason to improve the team's chances of winning a Super Bowl but with Rodgers still planning on playing several seasons there's no reason to go all-in and end up in cap hell down the road.

That approach should be taken once #12 is close to the end of his career as it's almost guaranteed the team will need at least a year of rebuilding with a different starting quarterback allowing the general manager to right the cap situation by releasing overpaid players before that transition season.

You don't know that. That could all change in a second. I want Rodgers to play forever but there is no guarantee he will be able to play at the same level as he approaches 40. Rodgers game requires much more athleticism then Brady for example. A serious injury could happen any time as well. He isn't as durable as lets say a Brett Favre.

TT and Co. need to seriously start putting together a 4 year run. To just run the "same old show" every off-season is a failure at this point

 

[Deleted member 6794]

TT and Co. need to seriously start putting together a 4 year run. To just run the "same old show" every off-season is a failure at this point

In my opinion you need to find the middle ground on your opinion regarding Thompson. I vividly remember you being convinced TT had assembled the best 90 man roster in NFL history the past two offseasons and now you don't trust him to field a playoff team anymore.

There's no doubt he has some shortcomings I have pointed out for years but he's far from a terrible general manager as well.

Overall the Packers currently have enough talent on the roster to be considered a Super Bowl favorite and some moves in free agency and a decent draft might put them over the top. Therefore there's no reason to be afraid of a gloom and doom scenario.

I agree that Thompson has to use all methods available to upgrade the roster and take more calculated risks moving forward.

 

[brandon2348]

In my opinion you need to find the middle ground on your opinion regarding Thompson. I vividly remember you being convinced TT had assembled the best 90 man roster in NFL history the past two offseasons and now you don't trust him to field a playoff team anymore.

There's no doubt he has some shortcomings I have pointed out for years but he's far from a terrible general manager as well.

Overall the Packers currently have enough talent on the roster to be considered a Super Bowl favorite and some moves in free agency and a decent draft might put them over the top. Therefore there's no reason to be afraid of a gloom and doom scenario.

I agree that Thompson has to use all methods available to upgrade the roster and take more calculated risks moving forward.

Yeah.I was all in with TT with his choices for several years even though I didn't understand a lot of his picks or not doing anything in free agency. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and now after last season I have been struck with clarity after really dissecting many of the moves and lack of moves.

He isn't the worse GM in the NFL by far but right now but he isn't the guy to get this team back to the promise land with his tatics recent drafting. If somehow this all changes I would re-direct my course.

 

[PackAttack12]

whatever man. You cheapen everything about a team and the sport of football every time you post recently. Aaron has plenty of reasons to point directly at himself the first 6 weeks of the season as to why they're were playing Atlanta on the road as anyone else. and things happened this year, and things happened last year and in 2014 we were stacked, we were healthy and the players didn't get it done. Blame the defense, blame the special teams, blame Ted, but Rodgers couldnt' score a TD either.

Hmmm...but the Packers were 4-2 in those games? What really killed us was the 0-4 stretch in which the defense gave up over 38 points a game. Take out the 0-4 stretch, and we're 10-2.

The Vikings loss was all Aaron though. For certain.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

So who do you replace Lacy and Hyde with?

What happens if Gilmore gets injured or doesn't live up to his contract?

Ty Montgomery, Andre Ellington and Crockett/late round draft pick. As for Gilmore...what happens if the draft picks don't work out (ahem, Randall/Rollins) or the current guys don't reverse their nosedives from last season? Packers are a team that are very close to being Super Bowl worthy and need to get a corner that can start right away and match up with #1's. Yes, that's expensive, but that's the position the Packers' front office has put themselves in.

 

[Mondio]

Hmmm...but the Packers were 4-2 in those games? What really killed us was the 0-4 stretch in which the defense gave up over 38 points a game. Take out the 0-4 stretch, and we're 10-2.

The Vikings loss was all Aaron though. For certain.

the 6 weeks was just an arbitrary number I pulled out, point being, Rodgers was not perfect all year. nobody is. There were plenty of times in the first half of the season where the offense or the defense put each other in bad positions. Plenty of times where a receiver couldn't help out their QB and the QB didn't help out the receivers. Plenty of opportunities for the defense to get a stop where they didn't, but also opportunities the defense gave the offense and they did nothing with it.

This defense laid some giant ****ing stinkers out there last year. They also had a few good games sprinkled in there and dealt with a gutting and constant rotation in the middle and back end of that defense.

I grow tired of this notion that the Packers are nothing but Rodgers. it cheapens every single thing there is to love about the team sport of football. Saying we should win a super bowl every year just because we have him also cheapens every last thing there is to winning a championship. Mostly said by people that probably never played at a championship level on any team at any level let alone the NFL .

 

[brandon2348]

the 6 weeks was just an arbitrary number I pulled out, point being, Rodgers was not perfect all year. nobody is. There were plenty of times in the first half of the season where the offense or the defense put each other in bad positions. Plenty of times where a receiver couldn't help out their QB and the QB didn't help out the receivers. Plenty of opportunities for the defense to get a stop where they didn't, but also opportunities the defense gave the offense and they did nothing with it.

This defense laid some giant ******* stinkers out there last year. They also had a few good games sprinkled in there and dealt with a gutting and constant rotation in the middle and back end of that defense.

I grow tired of this notion that the Packers are nothing but Rodgers. it cheapens every single thing there is to love about the team sport of football. Saying we should win a super bowl every year just because we have him also cheapens every last thing there is to winning a championship. Mostly said by people that probably never played at a championship level on any team at any level let alone the NFL .

Who is saying "they should win the super bowl every year"? I haven't seen this posted anywhere

 

[Mondio]

that's the intent you've pulled from the flow of my posts?

 

[brandon2348]

that's the intent you've pulled from the flow of my posts?

Maybe I have been "sour grapes" a little but I am still posting things that I think would help the team reach there goal. I am not giving up on these and wish I could sometimes because of all the TT crap but I just love the Packers as its in my blood. Should I just be quiet while the heart break continues?

I am talking about "6 years of heart break". How do we get from that to "winning the super bowl every year'?

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Steelers only put an original round tender on CB Ross Cockrell, which would be fourth round. He's 25, 6' and was PFF's 29th rated corner. Packers could conceivably sign him to a contract that the Steeler's would be loathe to match and then the Packers are only giving up a fourth for a good, young corner. Just a thought.

 

[Pkrjones]

Steelers only put an original round tender on CB Ross Cockrell, which would be fourth round. He's 25, 6' and was PFF's 29th rated corner. Packers could conceivably sign him to a contract that the Steeler's would be loathe to match and then the Packers are only giving up a fourth for a good, young corner. Just a thought.

At his pro day ran SUB 4.4 40 and had a 39" vertical... both spectacular for a 6', 190 lb. corner. Would only cost 1/2 of Gilmore so if I'm TT (instead of just an assistant TT) I'd make a run at him & give up a 4th. Just see he ran 4.56 at the Combine, WTH? Supposedly plays faster than timed, smart and a ball hawk (awareness!!).

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/ar...Cockrell/8c02595a-abe8-42f3-9585-fc1fbc30ad42

 

[brandon2348]

At his pro day ran SUB 4.4 40 and had a 39" vertical... both spectacular for a 6', 190 lb. corner. Would only cost 1/2 of Gilmore so if I'm TT (instead of just an assistant TT) I'd make a run at him & give up a 4th. Just see he ran 4.56 at the Combine, WTH? Supposedly plays faster than timed, smart and a ball hawk (awareness!!).

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/ar...Cockrell/8c02595a-abe8-42f3-9585-fc1fbc30ad42

Pump the breaks just a little here. This guy is very inconsistent and sometimes gets lost.

 

[Pkrjones]

Rotoworld 3/03 - "It's somewhat surprising Cockrell didn't land a second-round tender after emerging as Pittsburgh's top corner the past two years, at times chasing No. 1 receivers. Still, Cockrell seems unlikely to generate significant interest on the restricted free agent market. The price for another team to acquire Cockrell would be a fourth-round pick and a big contract, and the Steelers can match any offer sheet Cockrell might receive."

He'll be 26 in August and has been matched-up against #1's for the last 2 years. How much of an upgrade is he from Gunter? Sign the man to an offer sheet!