2017 Draft/FA Needs - Ranked

[PackerDNA]

And if you traded your first round pick, you had a first round pick to trade. Not sure how that's a reach.

But if you traded your 1st round pick, then you don't have....
Heh, forget it.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Once you have used your first round pick, you don't have a pick, just a player.....this is getting confusing!

 

[PikeBadger]

And if you traded your first round pick, you had a first round pick to trade. Not sure how that's a reach.

I wouldn't mind if the Packers traded 29 for 37 and 108. Picks 29 & 37 are essentially the same guy and 108 is your new RB,TE or ILB.

 

[OldSchool101]

Once you have used your first round pick, you don't have a pick, just a player.....this is getting confusing!

Oh NOOO! Counting trades and draft picks again!! It's a vicious cycle that makes me feel like this Mr Bill skit!

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[Dantés]

I wouldn't mind if the Packers traded 29 for 37 and 108. Picks 29 & 37 are essentially the same guy and 108 is your new RB,TE or ILB.

The talent drop offs are different in every class. I haven't seen nearly enough to say, this year, if it's around 20 or 25 or 30 or whatever the case may be.

You're right that after that talent drop off happens, a trade down can be a good idea. But the problem is that you have to find someone to move up. That can be difficult. If Team A thinks the talent from 29 to 37 is relatively the same, chances are Team B does too.

 

[McKnowledge]

With the recent release of Mario Williams from the Miami Dolphins, I think he would be a great "one year flyer" type of player for the Packers. Re-sign Julius Peppers, re-sign Nick Perry, restructure CM3 with incentives; tack on Fackrell with another pass rusher via draft. That could solidify a decent pass rush from the DE/OLB spots in the 3-4 of Dom Capers. Williams has gotten double digit sack totals in five other seasons. Maybe, selling him on the savior role for a team with championship aspirations might work.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...lphins-releasing-defensive-end-mario-williams

 

[OldSchool101]

We have the Cap to Resign Perry, Tretter and Lang and Perry should be a priority.
What was reinforced in my mind this season is that this is a dominantly passing league. Which means it's imperative to have depth at a relatively vulnerable position in the injury arena and a dynamic area of the opposing teams production (pass D)..
think Atlanta and The Patriots here.
With that being said it's my opinion that we need 2 additional starting level DBs added this offseason. My wish list includes 1 veteran and/or another 1st or 2nd round pic with a 4.4 (neighborhood) raw speed and some natural intensity and attitude. I would love to see competition for Randall and Rollins as it will only make them better.
There is no cure for poor production better than infusing more competition in the mix.
It actually pains me to say that because I thought this year would be the year Aaron gets his turn at a #1 receiving weapon.

 

[sdh09e44]

With the recent release of Mario Williams from the Miami Dolphins, I think he would be a great "one year flyer" type of player for the Packers. Re-sign Julius Peppers, re-sign Nick Perry, restructure CM3 with incentives; tack on Fackrell with another pass rusher via draft. That could solidify a decent pass rush from the DE/OLB spots in the 3-4 of Dom Capers. Williams has gotten double digit sack totals in five other seasons. Maybe, selling him on the savior role for a team with championship aspirations might work.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...lphins-releasing-defensive-end-mario-williams

I feel like Mario Williams would be a Belichick type move. A guy with obvious talent but never really lived up to the role he was destined for, but still a solid player. And that player isn't brought in to move mountains, just need him to provide depth and make a few plays here and there. I'd rather have Williams be that guy than some rookie DE.

Don't know what happened since 2014 when he was a pro bowler and had 14.5 sacks, but then like I said, we wouldn't need him to come in and do that. Just would be nice to have some extra experience on that line and a guy who has done some nice things and maybe can do some more nice things. I like it

 

[brandon2348]

We have the Cap to Resign Perry, Tretter and Lang and Perry should be a priority.
What was reinforced in my mind this season is that this is a dominantly passing league. Which means it's imperative to have depth at a relatively vulnerable position in the injury arena and a dynamic area of the opposing teams production (pass D)..
think Atlanta and The Patriots here.
With that being said it's my opinion that we need 2 additional starting level DBs added this offseason. My wish list includes 1 veteran and/or another 1st or 2nd round pic with a 4.4 (neighborhood) raw speed and some natural intensity and attitude. I would love to see competition for Randall and Rollins as it will only make them better.
There is no cure for poor production better than infusing more competition in the mix.
It actually pains me to say that because I thought this year would be the year Aaron gets his turn at a #1 receiving weapon.

This is so true. After investing a 1st and a 2nd in the secondary just two years ago you'd think we'd be okay there along with a 1st the year prior with Dix but here we are.

Not sure Mario Williams has much left in the tank.

It would be unreal to get Rodgers a big time weapon.

 

[7thFloorRA]

I would draft Watt at all costs, sign a 2nd/3rd tier guy like Mingo, Jarvis Jones or our old pal Walden & keep Perry. After that grab a vet corner & draft bpa.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Speed in the middle of the defense is a necessity and not a luxury so I don't consider Peppers a "luxury pick". We need Nick Collins speed in the middle and "J.Peppers" supplies that immediately. Then we finally need to get a ILB that can fly and make plays all over the field as well. I like Haason Red****. You can then start actually plugging a corner like a Casey Hayward for example on the outside and hit "home runs" and get the results everyone wants. Of course the pass rush needs to be addressed as well.

Peppers steuggles in coverage though. While he might end up being an impact player for a defense with an above average secondary he for sure isn't the answer to the Packers woes there.

With the recent release of Mario Williams from the Miami Dolphins, I think he would be a great "one year flyer" type of player for the Packers.

Williams has struggled mightily rushing the passer over the last two years. The Packers should pass on signing him.

 

[Half Empty]

I would draft Watt at all costs, sign a 2nd/3rd tier guy like Mingo, Jarvis Jones or our old pal Walden & keep Perry. After that grab a vet corner & draft bpa.

Just wondering, if Watt's name was Smith, and he played for LSU, how would you feel?

 

[rodell330]

Draft analysis eh?
CB
CB
CB
CB
CB
CB
And sign a Cb in free agency. There. You're all welcome. Resign Perry and Add Mario Williams or Chandler Jones.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Just wondering, if Watt's name was Smith, and he played for LSU, how would you feel?

Does this Smith guy have a brother named JJ Smith?

As a Huge Badger fan, I am high on TJ as well, but recognize his ultimate value isn't known at this time, but then again, what player available at #29 this year or in the history of the draft is a sure thing?

I don't think he will have an instant impact in the NFL, but a year or two in the weight room and with the right team, he could be really good. Could that be the perfect fit for the Packers if they resign Perry and don't cut Matthews?

But it really doesn't matter to me if he was TJ Smith from LSU, his draft value is all over the board even with the so called experts. Even back in 2011, "experts" were skeptical on JJ's potential.

http://www.fanragsports.com/nfl/t-j-watt-living-on-the-edge-ready/

 

[Mondio]

I think he'll be good, just because of his effort. But I think he'll need a season or two of growth yet too before he's where he'd need to be physically.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Here is what one draft guy was saying about TJ's brother before the draft:

Weaknesses:

• Still developing

• Inexperience hurts his instincts

• Has to develop pass-rushing moves

• Tackling skills need improvement

• Due to height needs to be cognizant of playing high
  
  Summary: J.J. Watt can help a team in a lot of ways. He can play different spots across the line, help on special teams blocking kicks and even do a Mike Vrabel impression as a receiving tight end. In his primary role on defense he can be a dominating presence as a five-technique defensive end in a 3-4. On the downside, while his ascension to top prospect is impressive, he was a Central Michigan tight end not that long ago. He is very much a work in progress.

 

[Half Empty]

Does this Smith guy have a brother named JJ Smith?

As a Huge Badger fan, I am high on TJ as well, but recognize his ultimate value isn't known at this time, but then again, what player available at #29 this year or in the history of the draft is a sure thing?

I don't think he will have an instant impact in the NFL, but a year or two in the weight room and with the right team, he could be really good. Could that be the perfect fit for the Packers if they resign Perry and don't cut Matthews?

But it really doesn't matter to me if he was TJ Smith from LSU, his draft value is all over the board even with the so called experts. Even back in 2011, "experts" were skeptical on JJ's potential.

http://www.fanragsports.com/nfl/t-j-watt-living-on-the-edge-ready/

Understand and agree. I was just taking a good-natured shot at the draft him 'at any cost' comment.

 

[brandon2348]

I've simmered on Watt a little bit. I think Charles Harris(Mizzou) is more day 1 ready if thats the direction they choose to go.

Plus Mizzou has been an "edge rush factory" transferring some nice to talent to the NFL.

I like the safer play here.

 

[Arthur Squires]

I've simmered on Watt a little bit. I think Charles Harris(Mizzou) is more day 1 ready if thats the direction they choose to go.

Plus Mizzou has been an "edge rush factory" transferring some nice to talent to the NFL.

I like the safer play here.

I think both Watt and Harris are Rd 2 players. Both are mocked to go 1st round as of now but we'll see.

 

[Arthur Squires]

With the recent release of Mario Williams from the Miami Dolphins, I think he would be a great "one year flyer" type of player for the Packers. Re-sign Julius Peppers, re-sign Nick Perry, restructure CM3 with incentives; tack on Fackrell with another pass rusher via draft. That could solidify a decent pass rush from the DE/OLB spots in the 3-4 of Dom Capers. Williams has gotten double digit sack totals in five other seasons. Maybe, selling him on the savior role for a team with championship aspirations might work.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...lphins-releasing-defensive-end-mario-williams

Official prediction TT passes on Mario but Jerry Jones doesn't.

 

[PikeBadger]

We have the Cap to Resign Perry, Tretter and Lang and Perry should be a priority.
What was reinforced in my mind this season is that this is a dominantly passing league. Which means it's imperative to have depth at a relatively vulnerable position in the injury arena and a dynamic area of the opposing teams production (pass D)..
think Atlanta and The Patriots here.
With that being said it's my opinion that we need 2 additional starting level DBs added this offseason. My wish list includes 1 veteran and/or another 1st or 2nd round pic with a 4.4 (neighborhood) raw speed and some natural intensity and attitude. I would love to see competition for Randall and Rollins as it will only make them better.
There is no cure for poor production better than infusing more competition in the mix.
It actually pains me to say that because I thought this year would be the year Aaron gets his turn at a #1 receiving weapon.

I don't think re-signing Lang is a high priority and I don't think Packers mgmt feels it is either.

 

[PikeBadger]

The talent drop offs are different in every class. I haven't seen nearly enough to say, this year, if it's around 20 or 25 or 30 or whatever the case may be.

You're right that after that talent drop off happens, a trade down can be a good idea. But the problem is that you have to find someone to move up. That can be difficult. If Team A thinks the talent from 29 to 37 is relatively the same, chances are Team B does too.

Possibly so but some warrooms get pretty nervous I bet if they think some team above them is going to snap up the guy they want to pick.

 

[rodell330]

Still baffled as to why anyone is suggesting any position other than a corner in the 1st rd. Corner was by far the weakest link on defense. In fact, on the entire team. The Packers don't have one complete corner on the roster. Not 1. They need a guy with size, who's not afraid to tackle, instincts, ball skills, and can run with NFL WRs. Period.

 

[Mondio]

Equally as baffeling is a guy that is comfortable with Matthews and Fackerell as your complete list of pass rushing specialists on the entire roster as of now.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Still baffled as to why anyone is suggesting any position other than a corner in the 1st rd. Corner was by far the weakest link on defense. In fact, on the entire team. The Packers don't have one complete corner on the roster. Not 1. They need a guy with size, who's not afraid to tackle, instincts, ball skills, and can run with NFL WRs. Period.

IMO, that will all depend on what TT does in the Free Agent Market, if anything. If he doesn't pick up a CB, then I agree with you, he better find a starting CB with that #29, which I think would be a big risk to bank on. Same really for OLB, all depends on what happens with our own guys as well as any other FA's.

Hard to really start talking hardcore draft, until you know our needs going in.