Your Do Not Draft List

[Dantés]

I kind of hate making these, because the draft is all about selling optimism and if I want to reserve the right to wax poetic about WHOEVER the Packers draft. Putting my name on guys I don't want means I don't get to do that (or I at least have to pretend to have some new revelation right after the draft). THAT SAID, I still find this interesting.

So here's the exercise:

Pick at least five guys who are in the top 100 on the consensus board who you would not want unless they were going way later than projected and explain why. Restrict your selections to that top 100 range-- I don't care if you're out on some 6th round safety from Northern Illinois.

 

[SudsMcBucky]

I can most definitely tell you I would, in no way shape or form, want Shedeur Sanders on our team. I want nothing to do with the spectacle that Deon might/would bring to whatever team his kid plays for. Even if we NEEDED a QB, I'd take a big ol' pass.

 

[tynimiller]

I kind of hate making these, because the draft is all about selling optimism and if I want to reserve the right to wax poetic about WHOEVER the Packers draft. Putting my name on guys I don't want means I don't get to do that (or I at least have to pretend to have some new revelation right after the draft). THAT SAID, I still find this interesting.

So here's the exercise:

Pick at least five guys who are in the top 100 on the consensus board who you would not want unless they were going way later than projected and explain why. Restrict your selections to that top 100 range-- I don't care if you're out on some 6th round safety from Northern Illinois.

#1 - Will Campbell #8....I guess I have to put him here by default since he isn't my OT1 or OT2 and is likely to end up outside my top 30 possibly. This is partially due to the fact I just don't see him as a Tackle and you have to be a surefire multi-year ALL PRO to get me to support you along the interior for even Day1 consideration. His measurables are simply NOT NFL tackle worthy, I don't care what anyone says.
#2 - Isaiah Bond #70...undersized, hasn't delivered/proven much to me at all...I think he should have stayed another year...to me vastly too unknown of a commodity for a top 100 pick.
#3 - Will Howard #77....I think there are three or so QBs that are after him that if given the exact same situation would out perform him...now this will be hard to gauge as situations dictate a lot of an outcome for these non-top flight guys (ie Malik Willis type).
#4 - Quinshon Judkins #50....the pick it will take to take him I desperately don't see it. I don't see a change of direction or yard creator I want out of my top backer...also has shown very little in passing game to me.
#5 Jack Sawyer #53 - this is tough one...Is he a guy that somehow at every level has found a way to win, produce and be a force to be reckoned with? Yes...BUT the dude has arm length that is just so rare I would not touch unless very much a round later than projected.


Shoot just noticed Tez dropped out of the top 100 now...Tez is #104 now.
#1 - TEZ JOHNSON 1,000% - such an extreme outlier I want no part of it as I just don't see a sustainable NFL season let alone multiple in that body type.

 

[Dantés]

Mine...

Will Campbell, OL, LSU, #8: Campbell, if he plays tackle in the NFL, will have the shortest wingspan of all time at that position. Regardless of which arm measurement is right, the wing isn't changing. I would not want to sign up to be the team that conducts that experiment at his cost. You also have no tape of him at guard.

Jalon Walker, ED/LB, UGA, #11: Walker has played very few snaps of college football AND he's split them between two positions. His most attractive trait is his pass rush, but he's not built anything like a full time edge player. He's built like an off-ball linebacker, but his development there is seriously lacking. I see the talent and I would happily have him on the Packers, but a top 16 pick on an experiment like that is way too rich.

James Pearce Jr, ED, TEN, #24: Pearce is both light and linear, which is my least favorite kind of pass rusher. If you're stiff, which he is, you need to pack a serious punch. As is, I see him as a guy who will just get perpetually washed out high-side. He has the frame to add a lot of strength, so he could make me look stupid, but then you have the concerns about work ethic. People sometimes get upset when fans/media speculate on that stuff, but experience has taught me there's usually fire causing the smoke.

Emeka Egbuka, WR, OSU, #33: I like a lot about Egbuka's game, but the bottom line for me is that I think he's basically a slot at the next level who doesn't create explosives or win vertically. I think that's an easy skill-set to find and one that has limited applications in an offense. As he is likely to require pick #23, I would not draft him.

Luther Burden, WR, MIZZ, #34: I think Burden has the highest ceiling of any receiver in this draft class. He could be a legit, 1A, do-everything receiver in an offense. But I also think he has the most work to do of any of the top guys in order to reach that ceiling. That on its own doesn't sour me, but then you consider that he is dogged by rumors of being a really selfish, lazy player, he has turned in terrible interviews during the process, and he has manifested that selfishness on film by quitting on most plays that don't feature him.

 

[tynimiller]

Mine...

Will Campbell, OL, LSU, #8: Campbell, if he plays tackle in the NFL, will have the shortest wingspan of all time at that position. Regardless of which arm measurement is right, the wing isn't changing. I would not want to sign up to be the team that conducts that experiment at his cost. You also have no tape of him at guard.

1,000%

 

[Dantés]

Here's one more I forgot:

Maxwell Hairston, CB, UK, #35: Hairston is uber-talented with great cover skills, but you're talking about a 180 lb corner who just missed 5 games with a bad shoulder. These really slight defenders just do not last. Look at how quickly Asante Samuel Jr has gone from promising player on the ascent to persona non grata.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Here's one more I forgot:

Maxwell Hairston, CB, UK, #35: Hairston is uber-talented with great cover skills, but you're talking about a 180 lb corner who just missed 5 games with a bad shoulder. These really slight defenders just do not last. Look at how quickly Asante Samuel Jr has gone from promising player on the ascent to persona non grata.

WRs are getting bigger, 6'2" plus, 210 lbs plus. I just don't see how a corner under 6' and weighing around 180 lbs can survive, much lest defend in the NFL. The top corners will be bigger. That's the trend and that's how GMs should evaluate guys.

 

[Schultz]

Did not look up their rankings. I believe if not still, at one time were top 100.
5. Restrepo- WR Miami- too slow.
4. Bond- WR Texas- his college production does not make him look like he will do much in the NFL.
3. Pearce- E Tennessee- character issues.
2. Hairston- CB- Kentucky- we have an injury issue #1 corner. We signed an injury prone slot corner. Please don't draft an injury prone corner.
1. Stewart- E- A&M. Great ceiling. Will eventually disappoint IMO. Man, he reminds me of (take your pick of multiple early high potential recent GB picks).

 

[Dantés]

WRs are getting bigger, 6'2" plus, 210 lbs plus. I just don't see how a corner under 6' and weighing around 180 lbs can survive, much lest defend in the NFL. The top corners will be bigger. That's the trend and that's how GMs should evaluate guys.

I think small players can absolutely perform. The issue is durability.

For instance, Tank Dell can 100% play, but he can't stay healthy.

Sometimes small corners defy the odds, but this kid already had a shoulder issue, which is exactly what tanked Jaire's career.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I think small players can absolutely perform. The issue is durability.

For instance, Tank Dell can 100% play, but he can't stay healthy.

Sometimes small corners defy the odds, but this kid already had a shoulder issue, which is exactly what tanked Jaire's career.

Tyreek Hill is a great example of a small guy who excels. But he is absolutely ripped (and fast) and has some built-in protection from injury.

But yeah the guy in question is a non-starter for reasons stated.

 

[Dantés]

Tyreek Hill is a great example of a small guy who excels. But he is absolutely ripped (and fast) and has some built-in protection from injury.

But yeah the guy in question is a non-starter for reasons stated.

And Hill is more short than he is small. 185# at just under 5’10”.

 

[Thirteen Below]

WRs are getting bigger, 6'2" plus, 210 lbs plus. I just don't see how a corner under 6' and weighing around 180 lbs can survive, much lest defend in the NFL. The top corners will be bigger. That's the trend and that's how GMs should evaluate guys.

I've really liked Hairston at KU, but I have to admit, the first time he's called upon to lay a hit on a 220-lb NFL running back rocketing out of the backfield, he's likely to get vaporized.

 

[Heyjoe4]

And Hill is more short than he is small. 185# at just under 5’10”.

He only weighs 185 lbs? Wow. His arms are massive. But yeah, at that height and weight, he would not be considered a great candidate for the draft, fast or not.

Then again I'm 5'10" and weigh 160 lbs, but was 190 lbs just two years ago. At my age, and given I have no NFL future, that's perfect!

Hill is probably the exception to the rule, but also a good reason for scouts to look at everyone. Thx for the stats Dantes!

 

[Magooch]

I will probably have a lot of repeats, but...

- Shedeur Sanders: I think he's got a bit of the "Bronny James" syndrome about him - a decent enough player who would not get anywhere close to the buzz he has if not for his dad. He is an accurate passer, but physically I think is pretty limited. Not a good enough player to merit the circus you would potentially be inviting.

- Jalon Walker: to me he kind of has the vibe of one of those guys who is an elite athlete but in a way that doesn't always translate into being an elite football player at the next level, if that makes sense. Positionally he feels kind of like a tweener, I'm not sure where his best application is going to project at the pro level.

- Shemar Stewart: if only because I am so tired of dealing with players whos production didn't match their potential...and then not living up to their potential, either. Like Walker I see an elite athlete who has not been able to put it all together. He was "only" 3rd-team All-SEC, which is of course not a bad thing, but I am always going to have a hard time spending premium draft capital on guys who just spent a season getting outplayed by their peers when those same peers project to be available much, much later.

- Colston Loveland: kind of a random one I guess. IMO it wouldn't make any sense for us unless he falls a TON. And I don't think he's a great fit for LaFleur's system. Not much of a blocker, not great in traffic/contested catches, he's fast but doesn't break tackles, etc.

And finally, it's not a need for us so probably not really on the table at all, but...Jaxson Dart: I think he's going to end up being one of the most over-drafted QBs in recent memory. IMO, this draft is extremely thin at QB. (Ward is pretty much the consensus #1 QB in this year's draft, and in my estimation he would probably be like QB6 in last year's draft, for instance), and Dart is still QB3 at best. He is a one-read QB; when he has to go off of his first read he doesn't even look like a draftable player, period. He reminds me a lot of Will Levis, except Levis at least had a great arm. Dart doesn't have that, either. Every year it seems like QB-needy teams start getting skittish and one of these guys make a rise up the board...I just don't see it panning out at all.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I will probably have a lot of repeats, but...

- Shedeur Sanders: I think he's got a bit of the "Bronny James" syndrome about him - a decent enough player who would not get anywhere close to the buzz he has if not for his dad. He is an accurate passer, but physically I think is pretty limited. Not a good enough player to merit the circus you would potentially be inviting.

- Jalon Walker: to me he kind of has the vibe of one of those guys who is an elite athlete but in a way that doesn't always translate into being an elite football player at the next level, if that makes sense. Positionally he feels kind of like a tweener, I'm not sure where his best application is going to project at the pro level.

- Shemar Stewart: if only because I am so tired of dealing with players whos production didn't match their potential...and then not living up to their potential, either. Like Walker I see an elite athlete who has not been able to put it all together. He was "only" 3rd-team All-SEC, which is of course not a bad thing, but I am always going to have a hard time spending premium draft capital on guys who just spent a season getting outplayed by their peers when those same peers project to be available much, much later.

- Colston Loveland: kind of a random one I guess. IMO it wouldn't make any sense for us unless he falls a TON. And I don't think he's a great fit for LaFleur's system. Not much of a blocker, not great in traffic/contested catches, he's fast but doesn't break tackles, etc.

And finally, it's not a need for us so probably not really on the table at all, but...Jaxson Dart: I think he's going to end up being one of the most over-drafted QBs in recent memory. IMO, this draft is extremely thin at QB. (Ward is pretty much the consensus #1 QB in this year's draft, and in my estimation he would probably be like QB6 in last year's draft, for instance), and Dart is still QB3 at best. He is a one-read QB; when he has to go off of his first read he doesn't even look like a draftable player, period. He reminds me a lot of Will Levis, except Levis at least had a great arm. Dart doesn't have that, either. Every year it seems like QB-needy teams start getting skittish and one of these guys make a rise up the board...I just don't see it panning out at all.

Good stuff. If Stewart falls to #23, I'd take him, and yes, for his athleticism and potential in the NFL.

 

[tynimiller]

- Shemar Stewart: if only because I am so tired of dealing with players whos production didn't match their potential...and then not living up to their potential, either. Like Walker I see an elite athlete who has not been able to put it all together. He was "only" 3rd-team All-SEC, which is of course not a bad thing, but I am always going to have a hard time spending premium draft capital on guys who just spent a season getting outplayed by their peers when those same peers project to be available much, much later.

This made me think of what a buddy texted me the other day....I was shocked....

Two players below compared - both entered the league same year:

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One is a Packer the other is an Eagle...