Would you want Cole Beasley in GB?

[Dantés]

If we're looking to find a veteran to play in the slot, here are my preferences:

1. Trade a 5th to Miami for Albert Wilson
2. Sign Jamison Crowder
3. Sign Adam Humphries
4. Resign Randall Cobb
5. Sign Golden Tate




6. Sign Cole Beasley

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Maybe we need a separate thread strictly about... threads?

 

[swhitset]

Maybe we need a separate thread strictly about... threads?

I am continually amazed at the things people get worked up about lol.

 

[Cheese Headed Monster]

Sad thing is I actually took time to pause and think, "is that guy right?". Then I paused a little longer and realized the answer was no. Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought there were plenty of better things to get grumpy about lol

 

[Do7]

Sad thing is I actually took time to pause and think, "is that guy right?". Then I paused a little longer and realized the answer was no. Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought there were plenty of better things to get grumpy about lol

From my breif experience with you and what not your posts are typically well thought out and respectful.

 

[Cheese Headed Monster]

From my breif experience with you and what not your posts are typically well thought out and respectful.

First time I have given a friendly tag in a non-ironic way lol

Edit* kinda weird that its a heart though. Gonna change it to like lol

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

With the new format, "New Threads" shows up on my main page. It used to be "new posts to threads you are watching" or something like that. So with the new format, seems like the quickest way to get peoples attention, is with a new thread. Just like Field of Dreams.....If its interesting....people will come.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

First time I have given a friendly tag in a non-ironic way lol

Edit* kinda weird that its a heart though. Gonna change it to like lol

Yeah, we need a "butt slap" emoji!

 

[gbgary]

Yeah, kumerow could be the next Jared Abbrederis or Myles White, or Jeff Janis.

those guys didn't get open and/or had bad hands. kumerow gets open and catches everything.

 

[RRyder]

To each their own! You can leave this thread if it upsets you so much

Sad thing is I actually took time to pause and think, "is that guy right?". Then I paused a little longer and realized the answer was no. Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought there were plenty of better things to get grumpy about lol

Not upset on the least. Simply replying to your rebuttals. Just pointing out how silly it is to have so many threads pop up even when they're over marginal players.

The fact that I could seemingly derail a thread based off a single post about how I felt these types of player acquisition threads should be merged into one kinda shows how the topic of Beasley would be better served as part of part of larger discussion and whether hed be better value then player x or y.

If you feel like that is being grumpy by all means do. I feel like that it is giving constructive advice however. So please continue on with your opinions on Beasley. I'm not here to interrupt that

 

[ShockwaveRider]

If we're looking to find a veteran to play in the slot, here are my preferences:

1. Trade a 5th to Miami for Albert Wilson
2. Sign Jamison Crowder
3. Sign Adam Humphries
4. Resign Randall Cobb
5. Sign Golden Tate




6. Sign Cole Beasley

I would go with:

1. Trade a 5th to Miami for Albert Wilson
2. Sign Jamison Crowder
3. Sign Adam Humphries
4. Resign Randall Cobb
5. Sign Golden Tate
6. Resign Andre "Bad Moon" Rison



7. Sign Mrs. Beasley

I was actually a huge fan of Andre Rison. He gave the Packers a bit of an edge, him and Antonio Freeman.

And why all the hate for Jake Kumerow? He seems like he has some potential.

And I always liked Randall Cobb (the player and the man) but I fear he might be "washed up".

Shockwave

 

[gbgary]

Rodgers is usually throwing into tight windows and there isn't a lot of wiggle room for them.

that was true of the younger rodgers but not so much now. think about it. the quick slant has gone away. heck, he doesn't even throw back-shoulders much anymore. unless it's a really safe pass he's not throwing it unless he's desperate.

 

[Dantés]

I would go with:

1. Trade a 5th to Miami for Albert Wilson
2. Sign Jamison Crowder
3. Sign Adam Humphries
4. Resign Randall Cobb
5. Sign Golden Tate
6. Resign Andre "Bad Moon" Rison



7. Sign Mrs. Beasley

I was actually a huge fan of Andre Rison. He gave the Packers a bit of an edge, him and Antonio Freeman.

And why all the hate for Jake Kumerow? He seems like he has some potential.

And I always liked Randall Cobb (the player and the man) but I fear he might be "washed up".

Shockwave

Kumerow is not this type of receiver.

 

[ShockwaveRider]

Kumerow is not this type of receiver.

I know, but other folks have piled onto the thread disparaging Kumerow.

 

[Cheese Headed Monster]

I would go with:

1. Trade a 5th to Miami for Albert Wilson
2. Sign Jamison Crowder
3. Sign Adam Humphries
4. Resign Randall Cobb
5. Sign Golden Tate
6. Resign Andre "Bad Moon" Rison



7. Sign Mrs. Beasley

I was actually a huge fan of Andre Rison. He gave the Packers a bit of an edge, him and Antonio Freeman.

And why all the hate for Jake Kumerow? He seems like he has some potential.

And I always liked Randall Cobb (the player and the man) but I fear he might be "washed up".

Shockwave

I know per our past discussion that you don't like Beasley, but come on now resigning Cobb at 4 lol??? I'm really down on Cobb I think

 

[PackerDNA]

If we're looking to find a veteran to play in the slot, here are my preferences:

1. Trade a 5th to Miami for Albert Wilson
2. Sign Jamison Crowder
3. Sign Adam Humphries
4. Resign Randall Cobb
5. Sign Golden Tate




6. Sign Cole Beasley

Heh,I noticed a big gap between 5 and 6. Intentional?

 

[Dantés]

I know per our past discussion that you don't like Beasley, but come on now resigning Cobb at 4 lol??? I'm really down on Cobb I think

I'm not excited about the prospect of resigning Randall Cobb. I would much rather sign/trade for one of the guys ahead of him on the list. But he's simply a much better player than Cole Beasley. He's a little bit younger, and significantly more productive. In an offense that doesn't lend itself to yards after the catch, Cobb has routinely doubled Cole up in the past couple seasons. Plus, he has a great rapport with our quarterback.

 

[Dantés]

I know, but other folks have piled onto the thread disparaging Kumerow.

I would diagnose it as "Janis Fatigue." I think people are just tired of certain players getting so much hype before they have actually accomplished anything.

 

[gbgary]

Kumerow is not this type of receiver.

didn't say he was. it's just that when kumerow was getting all his praise in camp/pre-season it was short quick routes. he caught everything. the Packers can do better than kumerow for sure but compared to beasley they already have him. imo

 

[ShockwaveRider]

I know per our past discussion that you don't like Beasley, but come on now resigning Cobb at 4 lol??? I'm really down on Cobb I think

Yeah, I know. I guess I'm probably just "grateful" for all the effort and awesome plays RC18 has made over the years.

Remember AR12 to RC18 for 48 and a TD against the dirty stinkin' BEARS in 2013? I sure do.

I'd make a terrible GM.

 

[Dantés]

didn't say he was. it's just that when kumerow was getting all his praise in camp/pre-season it was short quick routes. he caught everything. the Packers can do better than kumerow for sure but compared to beasley they already have him. imo

Ok. We don't have to get into a back and forth about it, because short of watching him play together I don't see how we'd resolve it. Suffice it to say, my opinion is that Kumerow is nothing like Beasley (or Cobb, Tate, Crowder, etc.).

 

[thequick12]

If we're looking to find a veteran to play in the slot, here are my preferences:

1. Trade a 5th to Miami for Albert Wilson
2. Sign Jamison Crowder
3. Sign Adam Humphries
4. Resign Randall Cobb
5. Sign Golden Tate




6. Sign Cole Beasley

Where does draft an explosive slot guy come in there? I know way before Beasley but... You know a guy like Terry mclaurin, or your buddy's favirite Parris Campbell, kavontae Turpin, marquise brown etc I'm sure there's others maybe Terry Godwin?

 

[thequick12]

Ok. We don't have to get into a back and forth about it, because short of watching him play together I don't see how we'd resolve it. Suffice it to say, my opinion is that Kumerow is nothing like Beasley (or Cobb, Tate, Crowder, etc.).

Kumerow would not be good in the slot he's not a quick guy. Watch him run routes hes good at it but it's unique to watch it's almost slow motion his routes take time to develop. Not a ideal in the slot I don't think

 

[Dantés]

Where does draft an explosive slot guy come in there? I know way before Beasley but... You know a guy like Terry mclaurin, or your buddy's favirite Parris Campbell, kavontae Turpin, marquise brown etc I'm sure there's others maybe Terry Godwin?

I don't necessarily think that drafting a guy and signing one need to be mutually exclusive choices. But the better the guy you sign, the less pressing the draft need is.

If they were to somehow acquire Wilson, Crowder, or Humphries, then I would say drafting a slot/YAC receiver is low priority as those guys are young and would fill the role for the foreseeable future.

If they were to address it by resigning Cobb or by bringing in an older veteran like Tate or Beasley, then I would say that such a player should be in play as high as pick #30.

So I guess if we're talking about a relatively high draft pick, it would look like this:

1. Wilson (trade)
2. Crowder
3. Humphries
4. Draft Pick
5. Cobb (resign)
6. Tate




7. Beasley

Bringing Cobb back on a reasonable one year deal and drafting a slot/YAC/PR player is actually not a bad route. You're hedging your bets both ways. Cobb's experience and rapport is there to fill the gap as it's unlikely that a rookie just steps in and is ready day one, and the rookie is there developing and (hopefully) somewhat ready if/when Cobb goes down-- all while giving the Packers an actual viable answer in the punt return game.

 

[Cheese Headed Monster]

I hate drafting receivers in general. I know there are always exceptions, but where does an elite receiver really get you? Funneling money and EARLY draft picks on receivers never made sense to me. I mean without Odell the Giants miss the playoffs, with him, also miss the playoffs. Steelers and Brown miss playoffs. Shoot you could even argue that Julio Jones when removed from Atlanta barely changes them. Atlanta has those running backs. I'd rather get cheap vets and draft receivers later than waste money and early picks on a position that imo is not a difference maker.

In summary- WR is not a difference maker position. (exceptions excluded)