Why does Rodgers only want to throw to Adams?

[longtimefan]

Honestly, the way we looked I firmly believe you could have given us OBJ and Julio Jones out there with Adams and we still lose. Yes, we looked that rough on Offense after the first two drives.

But we need number 1wr draft picks even tho with adams we got blasted

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

you could have given us OBJ and Julio Jones

Stop teasing me

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Show.me where I said that

I said its a pattern..they need to figure out why it is.

I never said that you did. That was said tongue in cheek and directed towards the whole notion of "we have won 6 games without Adams". I look at the 5 games (including playoffs) that we have lost in the last 2 seasons and I don't see any of those loses being a result of having Adams on the field.

 

[longtimefan]

I never said that you did. That was said tongue in cheek and directed towards the whole notion of "we have won 6 games without Adams". I look at the 5 games (including playoffs) that we have lost in the last 2 seasons and I don't see any of those loses being a result of having Adams on the field.

So we arent 6 and 0 with adams out?

Im lost?

Tongue and cheek

Fact is they are 6 and 0 and look good... Why is it a pattern?

Something is different

Figure out what rodgers is doing, or what he isnt...

Figure out what matt is doing or what he isnt.

But again..this is a pattern

 

[GleefulGary]

That is a very scary statement if true, but also very telling and possibly correct. Generally speaking, that is the problem for MLF, Rodgers and the Packer offense, besides Adams, they have yet to find someone that they can consistently rely on to run the right routes, get open and catch the ball. Yes, Lazard was showing that potential, but he is injured so next man up, who is it going to be? While they can get by with this against the weaker defenses, the better ones seem to be able to shut our offense right down.

It’s also not true.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

So we arent 6 and 0 with adams out?

Im lost?

Tongue and cheek

Fact is they are 6 and 0 and look good... Why is it a pattern?

Something is different

Figure out what rodgers is doing, or what he isnt...

Figure out what matt is doing or what he isnt.

But again..this is a pattern

So here is a shocker for you, the Packers 5 loses have come with Adams playing. Pattern?

Fact is, the Packers are 19-5 under MLF. Many of those 19 wins were actually close games, without Adams, who knows how many they would have lost. 4 out of the 5 losses were ugly blowout losses where the Packers were just mostly terrible on offense (and defense). If you are saying had Adams not played yesterday, in the 2 games against the 49ers or the 1 game against the Chargers and the Packers would have won all 5 of those games, then I am listening. Otherwise, I see a Pattern of a good team beating inferior teams, even without their #1 WR on the field.

The Packers have a really good offensive minded head coach IMO, as well as a FHOF QB, a top 5 WR and RB and a decent offensive line. Their record last season with basically the same players was indictive of a team that on any given Sunday, should beat all but the top tier teams. Saying "oh look they won 6 games without Adams" would mean a lot more to me if the Packers were 12-12 over the last 2 seasons.

 

[longtimefan]

Otherwise, I see a Pattern of a good team beating inferior teams, even without their #1 WR on the field.

Bingo

Makes sense to me

No need for a Hre 2 page thesis why either.

Good job

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

It’s also not true.

This, I actually think Malik Taylor is better than ESB. But the other problem is ESB just got back on the field for the first time since 2018 and really hasn't had a chance to get in sync with Rodgers up till now, especially with the shortened off-season.

Im not ready to give up on ESB just yet, but he should pick up his game quickly if he doesn't want Taylor to bump him out of it.

I had a feeling Captain's stat was more how the game went. I think people just got the idea that Rodgers was locked on to Adams the whole game because the two picks came on throws to him.

So, for those who want to know why has our offensive production been up and us 6-0 without Adams?

1. Every team we've faced without him has had a garbage defense

2. To add to that Rodgers has had a clean pocket and Aaron Jones has had monster games in all of those wins

I think the two biggest problems yesterday were the OL being porous, and Matt LaFleur abandoning the neo-Westcoast offense he was running the first four weeks, and then reverting to the old Mike McCarthy playbook there beginning in the second quarter. We really need to try and avoid pressing the issue in the future and sticking with the bells and whistles that make the offense tick in the future.

 

[Dantés]

Rodgers was missing on his would be connections with MVS yesterday, who is a low volume option anyhow.

Lazard was out.

On his attempts to EQ, the latter missed an audible and dropped a ball.

 

[longtimefan]

Rodgers was missing on his would be connections with MVS yesterday, who is a low volume option anyhow.

Lazard was out.

On his attempts to EQ, the latter missed an audible and dropped a ball.

long toss to mvs yesterday where mvs was open least 3 yards and rodgers threw it 5 yards way to left of mvs..

Not saying that changes anything.. But all year rodgers makes those

 

[Dantés]

long toss to mvs yesterday where mvs was open least 3 yards and rodgers threw it 5 yards way to left of mvs..

Not saying that changes anything.. But all year rodgers makes those

MVS also had a couple steps down the left sideline and Rodgers underthrew him-- it was almost pick #3 instead of a long touchdown.

Rodgers said the wind was bad yesterday. Maybe that had something to do with it.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I think the two biggest problems yesterday were the OL being porous, and Matt LaFleur abandoning the neo-Westcoast offense he was running the first four weeks, and then reverting to the old Mike McCarthy playbook there beginning in the second quarter. We really need to try and avoid pressing the issue in the future and sticking with the bells and whistles that make the offense tick in the future.

What do you do when you play top defenses like we saw yesterday? The Packer offense just has a tough time against speed and power. I would contend that the Packers just don't have enough offensive weapons/speed to consistently beat a team with a defense like that. Our only real chance is if the other teams offense isn't very good (Bears). Then we will see a low scoring game, one that might be decided by turnovers, but not this death march that we see from teams like the 49'ers, Chargers and now the Bucs.

I know I post a lot about lack of weapons on offense, but I am equally disappointed with the Defense under Pettine. Granted, he might be short a player or 2 (DL and ILB) but I think he has done less with more.

 

[longtimefan]

MVS also had a couple steps down the left sideline and Rodgers underthrew him-- it was almost pick #3 instead of a long touchdown.

Rodgers said the wind was bad yesterday. Maybe that had something to do with it.

Maybe

 

[Dantés]

Two things can be true.

The weapons on this team, particularly MVS, gave Rodgers a chance to get the team back in the game and he missed.

The offense would benefit from more weapons on offense.

 

[gbgary]

after going down 10-0 tampa got aggressive. on the first pick rodgers stared down adams the whole way with an open guy underneath. that fueled tampa and they doubled down on the pressure. on the second pick tampa was off-side and there was clear pass interference on the guy covering adams. it was a 6 man blitz with everyone in tight man coverage btw...something they did the rest of the day. packers had to keep rb's and extra te's in to handle the blitz limiting what they could do with wr's. of course adams is going to get most of the targets. game got out of hand quickly. the o morphed into last years o. being a little off and rattled didn't help.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

after going down 10-0 tampa got aggressive. the first pick rodgers stared down adams the whole way with an open guy underneath. that fueled tampa and they doubled down on the pressure. on the second pick tampa was off-side and there was clear pass interference on the guy covering adams. it was a 6 man blitz with everyone in tight man coverage btw...something they did the rest of the day. packers had to keep rb's and te's in to handle the blitz limiting what they could do with wr's. it's was EQ adams and tonyan. of course adams is going to get most of the targets. game got out of hand quickly. the o morphed into last years o.

Meanwhile Pettine is watching this unfold and appears to stick to his guns of not mixing things up with much blitzing. I swear to god I heard Pettine mutter "Watch this, we are going to make Brady beat us with his arm."

 

[gbgary]

Meanwhile Pettine is watching this unfold and appears to stick to his guns of not mixing things up with much blitzing. I swear to god I heard Pettine mutter "Watch this, we are going to make Brady beat us with his arm."

he's gutless. he should have done what tampa did. throw the kitchen sink at brady. instead he had them out there playing 5-10 yards off on 3rd and 2. he's got to go.

 

[GleefulGary]

he's gutless. he should have done what tampa did. throw the kitchen sink at brady. instead he had them out there playing 5-10 yards off on 3rd and 2. he's got to go.

On one hand, it’s really easy to say that.

On the other hand, we don’t have the blitzers TB does. Barnes blitzed 5 times, never got a pressure. But yeah, they gotta find a way to get pressure or you’ll end up with yesterday again.

 

[gbgary]

On one hand, it’s really easy to say that.

On the other hand, we don’t have the blitzers TB does. Barnes blitzed 5 times, never got a pressure. But yeah, they gotta find a way to get pressure or you’ll end up with yesterday again.

tampa's wr's weren't doing anything yesterday. evans was out there hurt. brady can't throw deep. gotta blitz more than one guy and not just once in a while.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

he's gutless. he should have done what tampa did. throw the kitchen sink at brady. instead he had them out there playing 5-10 yards off on 3rd and 2. he's got to go.

It's not just Pettine that does this either, you see it often with teams, especially when playing "prevent Defense". Maybe we don't quite have the horses that a team like TB has to get to the QB as consistently, but at least make an effort, blitz Alexander or Amos once in awhile. Pettine's creativity and ability to change things up seems pretty marginal. Packers looked to come out with a pretty decent defensive game plan and the 2 "pick 6's" in a row didn't help their state of mind, but then its the job of the DC to refocus and get his players back on task. The defense looked like they quit well before the game was even over.

Now there is one pitfall if you sell out with blitzes, if the offense has a lot of other weapons or a decent OL. If memory serves me correct, we tried blitzing Garoppolo a bit and with all the weapons he has, he still shredded us.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I don't think the Tampa Bay Offense was that big of a factor in them winning yesterday. As a matter of fact, their offense really shouldn't scare that many teams.

They won because of:

1. The Bucs Defense
2. The Packers Offense
3. The Packers Defense
4. The Bucs Offense.

 

[PackerDNA]

I don't think the Tampa Bay Offense was that big of a factor in them winning yesterday. As a matter of fact, their offense really shouldn't scare that many teams.

They won because of:

1. The Bucs Defense
2. The Packers Offense
3. The Packers Defense
4. The Bucs Offense.

Brady and the Tampa offense may not have done a lot, but they did everything they needed to do. Barring injuries, they will continue to get better, and I'd be willing to bet they'll be more than scary enough come play off time

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Brady and the Tampa offense may not have done a lot, but they did everything they needed to do. Barring injuries, they will continue to get better, and I'd be willing to bet they'll be more than scary enough come play off time

Gronk's apparent coming out party as a Buccaneer helped yesterday and Evans getting healthier will definitely help, but a defense like Tampa Bay's, would give Brady absolute fits.
Are they better than the Packers Offense? At this point I would say "yes". But I would take Rodgers over Brady, but the Bucs Receiving group over ours.

 

[PikeBadger]

MVS also had a couple steps down the left sideline and Rodgers underthrew him-- it was almost pick #3 instead of a long touchdown.

Rodgers said the wind was bad yesterday. Maybe that had something to do with it.

The ball to the left may have been due to wind but he also got hit while still in his throwing motion. He launched it a hair late on that play. He was also late on a couple of other throws imo.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

This is literally the easiest topic I've ever read, anywhere. They keep throwing to Adams because he's a top-5 WR in the NFL and, on top of that, the roster features ZERO other receiving options that are even average NFL-players.

 

[BrokenArrow]

There is truth to this. It happened last year too but I'm not sure if anything can be "done" except for LaFluer pointing it out during film review.

Adams is the best receiver on the team. It's natural for Rodgers to go his way. To be fair though, MVS and ESB couldn't haul in passes tonight. He missed connections with just about everyone else. Whom else could Rodgers throw to?

Well, there are the other 9 guys who caught passes while Adams was out. But it's probably their fault though.