Why does Rodgers only want to throw to Adams?

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as rodgers said during his presser just moments ago...when asked about how well he's playing at 37 and how he looks different this year... "i think you have to play different. for me, i think it was just embracing this offense." then he went on and spoke about how much all the zoom calls made such a big difference...which he's mentioned several times this season.
 
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never said he was washed. said down-trending. yes it is amazing how he's performed (he bought in) and said so early on. he's done a complete 180 in every regard. i've been singing his praises all season. never commented on his personal life.
You said declining. Diminishing skills. Can't make the downfield throws anymore. Don't have the time to go back and drudge up the quotes, but those were your words. Own them. You were wrong.
 

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as rodgers said during his presser just moments ago...when asked about how well he's playing at 37 and how he looks different this year... "i think you have to play different. for me, i think it was just embracing this offense." then he went on and spoke about how much all the zoom calls made such a big difference...which he's mentioned several times this season.
This is just another glaring example of you either:
  • all out lying about what Rodgers said
  • incorrectly interpreting what he said
  • taking what he said out of context to fit your agenda
  • taking a 3-6 word phrase as definite meaning to drive your narrative forward
All of these things by the way you've been called out on in the past and been exposed for.

In this scenario, yes Rodgers uttered the phrase "embrace this offense". But again, it wasn't in the sense you're suggesting it was. What you're wanting to portray from that is Rodgers not accepting the offense, not buying into Matt LaFleur, etc.

What you don't mention though is that he explained what he meant by "embracing the offense".

He elaborated by saying he has embraced the offense by:
  • Improving fundamentally, as this particular system demands different footwork which requires repetition and re-learning your habits.
  • Understanding how the previous point is critical in making sure the timing is better in the pocket
  • Going back to old film to study footwork on certain route concepts from years past
  • Altering his workout regiment to improve leg strength which includes, but is not limited to, doing more squats
  • The previous point has allowed him to play more in rhythm
  • Consequently, he feels better than he has in a long time
As the vast majority on this board pointed out throughout the course of year one (which are the sane, level minded crowd), it was always going to take at least a year for Rodgers to figure out what adjustments needed to be made. It was always going to take at least a year to feel comfortable. It was always going to take a transition period to figure all of these things out.

But of course, you're going to cling to this ******** narrative that Rodgers was rebelling against Matt LaFleur and his system when it couldn't be further from the truth.

Even in a year when your criticism has been low (because Rodgers has literally left you with no choice because he's been near flawless), you still figure out a way to push this insane narrative forward.

Patiently waiting for you to respond with the same drivel you always do.
 

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You said declining. Diminishing skills. Can't make the downfield throws anymore. Don't have the time to go back and drudge up the quotes, but those were your words. Own them. You were wrong.
a search says i used the word "declining" once irt rodgers in this sentence..."what would you have him do now, at his age and declining skill level, with these non-adams receivers? use them or keep holding the ball? take more sacks and hits? lead the league in throw-aways again? all of the above?" are rodgers physical skills the same as 2010? even the biggest rodgers cheerleader would say no. hell, rodgers would say no and has.
another search shows i've never used the word "diminshed" irt rodgers. i've always said he was still good and, until this season, his stats, and play, had been trending down. that can't be argued...they were.
i've never said he "can't make downfield throws anymore." another search shows i use the term "deep balls" irt rodgers throwing "downfield". last season i said, "he's had accuracy issues all season at all distances but all i've commented on were the deep balls that again no one can say he hasn't struggled with."
if i didn't own my past opinions i wouldn't keep bringing them up...and i'll take rodgers' own words at face value. again in 2020 he's done a complete 180 in every regard. he pretty much covered all the things he's done to make it happen this season in his last presser (and in some earlier pressers this season too). he's been more accurate in 2020 and has had a great season so far all told.
 

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Good stuff... Start about 18 mins in, rodgers talks about the td to lazard and how he wasnt even suppose to be an option

And how he loves smart players are better than talented ones. He specifically mention Mvs
 

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Good stuff... Start about 18 mins in, rodgers talks about the td to lazard and how he wasnt even suppose to be an option

And how he loves smart players are better than talented ones. He specifically mention Mvs


I love these Rodgers conversations with McAfee and AJ. He is usually cool as a cucumber during interviews, but he seems even more authentic hanging out with these guys.
 

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a search says i used the word "declining" once irt rodgers in this sentence..."what would you have him do now, at his age and declining skill level, with these non-adams receivers? use them or keep holding the ball? take more sacks and hits? lead the league in throw-aways again? all of the above?" are rodgers physical skills the same as 2010? even the biggest rodgers cheerleader would say no. hell, rodgers would say no and has.
another search shows i've never used the word "diminshed" irt rodgers. i've always said he was still good and, until this season, his stats, and play, had been trending down. that can't be argued...they were.
i've never said he "can't make downfield throws anymore." another search shows i use the term "deep balls" irt rodgers throwing "downfield". last season i said, "he's had accuracy issues all season at all distances but all i've commented on were the deep balls that again no one can say he hasn't struggled with."
if i didn't own my past opinions i wouldn't keep bringing them up...and i'll take rodgers' own words at face value. again in 2020 he's done a complete 180 in every regard. he pretty much covered all the things he's done to make it happen this season in his last presser (and in some earlier pressers this season too). he's been more accurate in 2020 and has had a great season so far all told.
"I was wrong" would have saved you a lot of time and energy.
 

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I didn't listen to the whole thing but I can't say as I like Rodgers having a head shaking conversation with LaFleur while making a play call. Should be more like..."here's the play." imo No wonder it takes em so long sometimes. Not worth time outs.
 

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I didn't listen to the whole thing but I can't say as I like Rodgers having a head shaking conversation with LaFleur while making a play call. Should be more like..."here's the play." imo No wonder it takes em so long sometimes. Not worth time outs.
I noticed that the last game, looked like a pitcher getting signals from his catcher.

Personally, I don't have a problem with it. There's obviously mutual respect and both have seemed to earn it. I think that play went for a TD.
 

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I noticed that the last game, looked like a pitcher getting signals from his catcher.

Personally, I don't have a problem with it. There's obviously mutual respect and both have seemed to earn it. I think that play went for a TD.

Agreed. They seem to be developing great chemistry and it even seems the # of timeouts due to the play clock running out are down. Nothing wrong with them "working through the signs" to take advantage of both their great offensive minds.

Much like a great catcher and a pitcher, eventually both will know pretty much what the other one is thinking.

Yadier Molina (C) and Adam Wainwright (P) have both been together with the Cardinals since 2005. I think they have something like 275 starts together and I remember announcers saying "its as if they don't even need to use signals, they are so familiar with each other in every situation."
 

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Agreed. They seem to be developing great chemistry and it even seems the # of timeouts due to the play clock running out are down. Nothing wrong with them "working through the signs" to take advantage of both their great offensive minds.

Much like a great catcher and a pitcher, eventually both will know pretty much what the other one is thinking.

Yadier Molina (C) and Adam Wainwright (P) have both been together with the Cardinals since 2005. I think they have something like 275 starts together and I remember announcers saying "its as if they don't even need to use signals, they are so familiar with each other in every situation."
Didn’t realize Wainwright had been there that long. That’s truly remarkable for a pitcher and catcher to be together for 15 years.
 

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"I was wrong" would have saved you a lot of time and energy.
but i wasn't wrong. not then and i'm not wrong now. rodgers changed and improved. he, and everyone around him, have said so. the latest was nathaniel hackett yesterday. when asked why rodgers was so much better this year than last, one of the first things he said was rodgers "has totally bought in." his performance, as is everyone's in their jobs, is a fluid thing. next season will be different than this one.
 
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but i wasn't wrong. not then and i'm not wrong now. rodgers changed and improved. he, and everyone around him, have said so. the latest was nathaniel hackett yesterday. when asked why rodgers was so much better this year than last, one of the first things he said was rodgers "has totally bought in." his performance, as is everyone's in their jobs, is a fluid thing. next season will be different than this one.
Cloud 9 must be a cool place.
 
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