Week 4: Buffalo at Green Bay - Time to bounce back

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At root, the depth of the Rodgers-McCarthy game plan disagreement boils down to this:

If McCarthy is calling a ball control passing game with a lot of timing passes and conservative run calls to protect his QB and burn clock while Rodgers doesn't want to be protected while keeping the pedal to the metal, that's an issue that can and should be worked out.

If McCarthy wanted to pivot to this offensive approach from the get go, with Rodgers "managing" games with audibles and ad libs curtailed, that will be difficult to reconcile.
 
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Maybe time to move on? Jeeeesh......Rodgers is still wearing a brace, Rodger himself said the injury is still bothering him and doesn't know how long it will last. IF he declares himself 100% healthy in week 16, are you going to do a butt wiggling dance in HRE's face, because you were right?
It's pointless, poker, but nonetheless amusing.
 

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Something else will tell me that Rodgers knee is much improved and that is the Packers running a faster paced offense. Not sure if the stats are kept, but they seem to be huddling up a lot more than usual. Not sure if this is to give AR a breather or to try and keep the defense off the field more.

Only my eye test, but it seems like the Packer offense is at its best when they don't huddle up, doesn't mean they have to snap the ball immediately. When there is no huddle Rodgers can keep the defense from substituting and can stand behind center and take his time to access his options and call the play. He still usually takes the play clock down to about as close to 0 as one can get, but the offense seems to thrive doing it.
 
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Something else will tell me that Rodgers knee is much improved and that is the Packers running a faster paced offense. Not sure if the stats are kept, but they seem to be huddling up a lot more than usual. Not sure if this is to give AR a breather or to try and keep the defense off the field more.

Only my eye test, but it seems like the Packer offense is at its best when they don't huddle up, doesn't mean they have to snap the ball immediately. When there is no huddle Rodgers can keep the defense from substituting and can stand behind center and take his time to access his options and call the play. He still usually takes the play clock down to about as close to 0 as one can get, but the offense seems to thrive doing it.
Also, in weeks 2 and 3 where Rodgers and McCarthy were being cautious with the knee, the Packers were almost always in shotgun to prevent Rodgers from having to put more pressure on the knee dropping back in the pocket from under center.

Weeks 2 and 3, the Packers were in shotgun 97% and 98% of the time, respectively.

In Week 4 against Buffalo, that number dropped to 64%.

That leads me to believe they're feeling more and more comfortable with where the knee is at.
 

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Also, in weeks 2 and 3 where Rodgers and McCarthy were being cautious with the knee, the Packers were almost always in shotgun to prevent Rodgers from having to put more pressure on the knee dropping back in the pocket from under center.

Weeks 2 and 3, the Packers were in shotgun 97% and 98% of the time, respectively.

In Week 4 against Buffalo, that number dropped to 64%.

That leads me to believe they're feeling more and more comfortable with where the knee is at.
yes, the formations tell a story and just watching him move, you can tell he's more comfortable than he was a few weeks ago. i'm sure it's not feeling great, but it has improved and that is good. Now just keep him on that path. Get the oline intact from one week to the next and get the receivers concentrating and we'll be fine
 

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Also, in weeks 2 and 3 where Rodgers and McCarthy were being cautious with the knee, the Packers were almost always in shotgun to prevent Rodgers from having to put more pressure on the knee dropping back in the pocket from under center.

Weeks 2 and 3, the Packers were in shotgun 97% and 98% of the time, respectively.

In Week 4 against Buffalo, that number dropped to 64%.

That leads me to believe they're feeling more and more comfortable with where the knee is at.
Great job finding stats that help support the idea that the knee is improving. It matches the eye test - I think we can all agree the knee is improving, which is great to see!
 

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When he ran out of the tunnel I saw no limping.. I said to my wife.. Looks like the knee is a lot better
 
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Rodgers needs to play better, but I understand his frustrations with the play calling. I'm sure that he has the ability to audible out of certain things, we see him hand motion and things of the like quite often. But I also don't think he can (or will) audible out of everything McCarthy calls just because he doesn't like it.

It has been reported in the past that Rodgers has the option to call one of two plays at the line, mostly either a pass or a run. It's definitely not possible for him to audible to any play in the playbook.

Something else will tell me that Rodgers knee is much improved and that is the Packers running a faster paced offense. Not sure if the stats are kept, but they seem to be huddling up a lot more than usual. Not sure if this is to give AR a breather or to try and keep the defense off the field more.

Only my eye test, but it seems like the Packer offense is at its best when they don't huddle up, doesn't mean they have to snap the ball immediately. When there is no huddle Rodgers can keep the defense from substituting and can stand behind center and take his time to access his options and call the play. He still usually takes the play clock down to about as close to 0 as one can get, but the offense seems to thrive doing it.

The Packers have huddled on 87% of the offensive plays this season, gaining an average of 5.38 yards per play compared to 6.51 in a no huddle offense. That number is actually on par with last season (89.8%) and the last one Rodgers played in every game in 2016 (85.4%).
 
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