Week 3 Detroit Game: A Must-Win?

[Packerlover]

It's not just about winning this game that matters. It's about how they win. If they barely get by while the offense struggles again.... I'll remain pessimistic. Nothing will change in my eyes.

I agree with you but a win is still a win right?

 

[Packerlover]

We need CM3 to have big time game. 2 sack game would be groovy for our defense. Perry has been a beast thus far and also will need to continue and have a big game aswell. Clark will be pushed into the starting lineup now that Guion is hurt. He had a nice batted pass but I will be watching his push in the pocket. Martinez did an excellent job shadowing AP if he does that with Rid**** this week it gives us good chance to win. It will be tricky to cover Tate and Jones without Shields. But my opinion Randall and Rollins would rotate covering both through the game.

Groovy...

 

[Arthur Squires]

It's not just about winning this game that matters. It's about how they win. If they barely get by while the offense struggles again.... I'll remain pessimistic. Nothing will change in my eyes.

Would Rodgers throwing 3 TDs and Lacy hit his 1st 100yd game with a TD help ease your mind. That's what I see happening with Rodgers telling everyone in post game interview" WHAT'S EVERYBODY WORRIED ABOUT WE'RE FINE!!!" Or at least that's what I dreamed last night

 

[Packerlover]

We beat the Lions, The Bears lose to Dallas and the Vikings lose to Carolina. The perfect scenario to move into a tie with the Vikes as Detroit and Chicago wonder what's going on!!

 

[Arthur Squires]

I have a feeling our defense is going to be pretty stout, forcing 3 and outs and multiple FGs maybe 3 or 4

 

[sschind]

I will continue to say it, I don't think our WR's group is as great as some want to think it is,

Are you kidding. Its so good that Ted was forced to keep 7 so we didn't make another team an instant playoff contender by picking up the one we cut.

 

[Packerlifer]

We`ve been issued with Thompson subs

I didn't know the Packers' GM had his own sandwich.

 

[C-Lee]

Anyone see Aaron's latest interview? I really liked it.

 

[Packerlifer]

A big, big game in the early season. http://www.packersnews.com/story/sp...next-opponent-lions-scouting-report/90735514/

 

[Packerlifer]

Anyone see Aaron's latest interview? I really liked it.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17606464/aaron-rodgers-says-green-bay-packers-worry-opinions

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Anyone see Aaron's latest interview? I really liked it.

I didn't like it as much as you did. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of AR, but again lots of excuses, said with a chip on his shoulder and sounding like the fans and media don't understand what is really happening. I don't doubt that that AR and the rest of the offense know more then I do as to what is happening and have a bit more confidence at this point then some of us, but I would tend to believe what he is saying if the offense only had a bad game or two over the last year. It's been a lot of games. He also talks about the West Coast offense and how important timing is when running it and that "We've been working on that throughout training camp and the regular season, but it's a little different when it's live out there". I also understand this, but if that is the case, why take the preseason off? What happened last year when it was clicking in the Chiefs game and then seemed to disappear for the rest of the season?

 

[Jimbo]

Jimbo,
I hope you enjoy your time in WI. and at Lambeau! I have feeling that the Packers will not disappoint. They need to build up some confidence. Have fun.
DS

Thanks DS! Really excited now!

 

[Packer Brother]

Would Rodgers throwing 3 TDs and Lacy hit his 1st 100yd game with a TD help ease your mind. That's what I see happening with Rodgers telling everyone in post game interview" WHAT'S EVERYBODY WORRIED ABOUT WE'RE FINE!!!" Or at least that's what I dreamed last night

Yes it would ease my mind. It would mean the offense may very well be back to 12-14 form. Barely beating the Lions with more offensive struggles? While a win is a win, l still won't feel any more confident.

 

[Packers907]

I would would say it's a must win for nothing other than confidence. Going into the bye week with a win would boost morale for the team and the fans alike. AR stated he didn't care what the press or what anyone else had to say about his and the Pack's performance against Minn but it's obvious that the negative feedback has taken its toll. This would be the boost they need to get through the bye week on a high note and work on the things that will hopefully go right for them in this game. As far as the record goes it may not be a must win but for the mood in and out of the locker room I would say this is about as big as it gets.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I will continue to say it, I don't think our WR's group is as great as some want to think it is, but its the group we have and MM needs to find a way to get AR and that groups confidence back or it could be a long season.

There's no doubt the top three on the wide receiver depth chart have struggled during the first two games but it's extremely tough to evaluate the Packers receiving corps as McCarthy for some reason refuses to use any of the other players on the roster. After the praise Abbrederis received all offseason and the way Montgomery performed at the start of last season it's mind-boggling none of them us getting any snaps.

We need CM3 to have big time game. 2 sack game would be groovy for our defense.

Matthews wasn't able to practice yesterday therefore it's possible he won't be able to play or be limited on Sunday.

Someone will probably find stats to prove me wrong, but it sure seems like we have very few yards after the catch (YAC) and prior to this drought, the YAC was our friend and what turned a small gain into a big one.

That's an interesting point that hasn't been brought up so far. During the 2014 season 38.1% of the Packers receiving yards from WRs and TEs came after the catch (average of 5.2 yards per completion). After two games this season that number has dropped to 12.6% (1.3 avg.).

Surprisingly Rodgers' completions to WRs and TEs have averaged 8.8 yards in the air this season compared to 8.4 in 2014.

 

[Packerlifer]

http://www.espn.com/blog/nfcnorth/p...-lions-re-live-ending-wisconsin-losing-streak

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

There's no doubt the top three on the wide receiver depth chart have struggled during the first two games but it's extremely tough to evaluate the Packers receiving corps as McCarthy for some reason refuses to use any of the other players on the roster. After the praise Abbrederis received all offseason and the way Montgomery performed at the start of last season it's mind-boggling none of them us getting any snaps.

I think that will continue to be the case until some sort of cohesiveness is seen between AR and the 3. It's obvious Jordy wasn't ready to physically play until after the preseason, but the continuation of last years poor play between AR and the receiving corp, makes me think they should have gotten more game reps during the preseason. It is also seems that their issues aren't just a tweak here or a tweak there, its going to come down to a lot more reps and everyone getting on the same page.

That's an interesting point that hasn't been brought up so far. During the 2014 season 38.1% of the Packers receiving yards from WRs and TEs came after the catch (average of 5.2 yards per completion). After two games this season that number has dropped to 12.6% (1.3 avg.).

Surprisingly Rodgers' completions to WRs and TEs have averaged 8.8 yards in the air this season compared to 8.4 in 2014.

Thanks for looking that stat up. 1.3 YAC ave. seems incredibly low. It's a very telling stat. It tells me that our WR's are catching the ball without much separation and/or making little effort to go upfield after a catch.

 

[Croak]

I didn't know the Packers' GM had his own sandwich.

No no no. You misunderstood. He meant we have been issued Ted Thompson substitutes. Anyone want us to use them?

 

[Half Empty]

I agree with you but a win is still a win right?

Basic philosophical difference. Sure, in the absolute sense, a win is a win. However, I (as one who believes there are 31 losing teams every year) prefer to look at how this predicts how the team may play when it counts, i.e., the playoffs. I have no reason to expect them not to be in the playoffs, given the schedule and the injuries to our major competitors already. However, it they're capable of laying an egg in the last game and very nearly an omlet in Jacksonville, I'd be very concerned about getting cranked up for the stretch run. Can it happen, sure. Would I be more comfortable if they started showing it earlier, yup. All through 2011, many were wondering if they could keep up the streak by just outscoring everyone - the streak and playoffs both ended with a resounding 'no'.

 

[mongoosev]

We beat the Lions, The Bears lose to Dallas and the Vikings lose to Carolina. The perfect scenario to move into a tie with the Vikes as Detroit and Chicago wonder what's going on!!

IF vikings and carolina play. Doesn't look so good in Charlotte because of the rioting.

 

[C-Lee]

I didn't like it as much as you did. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of AR, but again lots of excuses, said with a chip on his shoulder and sounding like the fans and media don't understand what is really happening. I don't doubt that that AR and the rest of the offense know more then I do as to what is happening and have a bit more confidence at this point then some of us, but I would tend to believe what he is saying if the offense only had a bad game or two over the last year. It's been a lot of games. He also talks about the West Coast offense and how important timing is when running it and that "We've been working on that throughout training camp and the regular season, but it's a little different when it's live out there". I also understand this, but if that is the case, why take the preseason off? What happened last year when it was clicking in the Chiefs game and then seemed to disappear for the rest of the season?

He seemed super focused and in the zone. Obviously that has to translate over to the field, but I liked what I saw.

 

[mongoosev]

There's no doubt the top three on the wide receiver depth chart have struggled during the first two games but it's extremely tough to evaluate the Packers receiving corps as McCarthy for some reason refuses to use any of the other players on the roster. After the praise Abbrederis received all offseason and the way Montgomery performed at the start of last season it's mind-boggling none of them us getting any snaps.

Strange indeed. Did Davis get a snap in the Viking's game? If i'm not mistaken I think I read he did. Might be mistaken. But their rotation was like non existent. Was it because of the no huddle offense?

 

[C-Lee]

Strange indeed. Did Davis get a snap in the Viking's game? If i'm not mistaken I think I read he did. Might be mistaken. But their rotation was like non existent. Was it because of the no huddle offense?

He had no more than 5 snaps, and he was WIDE open on one of them. Would have been a huge play.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Strange indeed. Did Davis get a snap in the Viking's game? If i'm not mistaken I think I read he did. Might be mistaken. But their rotation was like non existent. Was it because of the no huddle offense?

They didn't run the no huddle offense in Minnesota for the majority of the game. While I am not looking at stats, I only remember seeing Abby out there a few times and Montgomery and Davis were non existent on offense.

It seems that MM is pretty set on Jordy, Cobb and Adams as his starting 3 and give them as much playing time as possible. Which makes sense to me, since AR and those 3 are still struggling at times to mesh.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

There is basically no way the Packers should lose this game. I will actually be disappointed if the Packers' offense doesn't look historically terrific. The Lions will be missing two of their best defensive players (and perhaps their two BEST defensive players) in Levy and Ansah (and the Lions aren't exactly great on defense to begin with); the Lions had TWO linebackers at practice Wednesday. If the Packers' offense , facing this defense, doesn't look AMAZING then there are serious issues.