Week 13: Arizona v.s. Green Bay at Lambeau

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The fact that the Vikings are about to lose their next 2 games will help.;)

If the Packers win out, they have greater than an 80% chance of making the playoffs. If that’s needing “a lot to happen”, then I’ll gladly take it.
Actually, the Vikings winning out would help the Packers. But don't let that little fact hurt your disdain for them.
 

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Score Prediction:

Green Bay Packers: 41
Arizona Cardinals: 13

FINAL

If this happens winning out starts to look like a real possibility. While it seems far fetched Rodgers may have as close to his full complement of weapons since the regular season began with Randall Cobb coming back from the hamstring and Kumerow coming off ir. We'll see I definitely think the defense could hold Arizona to 13. The last rookie QB high draft pick that came to lambeau put 0 on the board
 

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Actually, the Vikings winning out would help the Packers. But don't let that little fact hurt your disdain for them.
Don't worry Raptor, I don't think its just his disdain for the Vikings, he dislikes anyone who doesn't agree with his opinion.
 

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Don't worry Raptor, I don't think its just his disdain for the Vikings, he dislikes anyone who doesn't agree with his opinion.
Vikings beating the Seahawks and the Bears helps the Packers. Seahawks, Skins and Panthers only need to win 4 games to make the Packers season moot. Vikings only need to win 3.
 

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The playoffs are very realistic if the Packers win out. Assuming the saints, rams, bears, and cowboys win their respective divisions.

Vikings: likely to lose on the road to both the patriots and Seahawks who are fighting for okay off spots. Then of their last 3 it's bit harder to see either the bears, dolphins, or lions beating them. At 6-4-1 they do need to lose 3 of 5.

Seahawks: likely will win their next 2 at home against the Vikings and niners. But are likely to lose 2 of their last 3 against 2 divison opponents in the niners and Cardinals and the chiefs who will still be battling for playoff seeding. At 6-5 they do need to lose twice.

Redskins: likely to lose 3 of their final 5 with Colt McCoy at qb. They've got the eagles twice, the jaguars, titans, and giants. And at 6-5 they only need to lose twice.

Eagles: likely to lose at least 2 of the final 5 with the Rams and the Texans in back to back weeks. Also have tough division game with the cowboys. And at 5-6 they only need to lose once.

Panthers: likely to lose at least 2 of their last 5 with the saints twice, the falcons, bucs and browns. At 6-5 they need to lose at least 2.

And even if one of these 5 teams doesn't get to 7 losses that still would make the Packers the 6th seed. So idk what the percentages say but I do know that common sense says that if the Packers can take care of the hard part which would be winning 5 in a row when you haven't even won 2 in a row all season. Well the rest will work itself out and they be in if the two wild cards with a shot to win the tournament
 

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Vikings beating the Seahawks and the Bears helps the Packers. Seahawks, Skins and Panthers only need to win 4 games to make the Packers season moot. Vikings only need to win 3.

Don't care who of those teams doesn't get to 7 losses if it's the Vikings great but they are likely to lose at patriots and seahawks. You are correct though hopefully they beat the Seahawks
 

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Mike Daniels goes to injured reserve possibly ending his career as a packer. It looks like if the team moves on from him after the season they will be on the hook for only 2.4 million in dead money saving around 7.5 million against the salary cap. I suppose it depends on the coaching situation but that money could be used to bring in a player along the line that better fits pettines scheme
 

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The playoffs are very realistic if the Packers win out. Assuming the saints, rams, bears, and cowboys win their respective divisions.

Vikings: likely to lose on the road to both the patriots and Seahawks who are fighting for okay off spots. Then of their last 3 it's bit harder to see either the bears, dolphins, or lions beating them. At 6-4-1 they do need to lose 3 of 5.

Seahawks: likely will win their next 2 at home against the Vikings and niners. But are likely to lose 2 of their last 3 against 2 divison opponents in the niners and Cardinals and the chiefs who will still be battling for playoff seeding. At 6-5 they do need to lose twice.

Redskins: likely to lose 3 of their final 5 with Colt McCoy at qb. They've got the eagles twice, the jaguars, titans, and giants. And at 6-5 they only need to lose twice.

Eagles: likely to lose at least 2 of the final 5 with the Rams and the Texans in back to back weeks. Also have tough division game with the cowboys. And at 5-6 they only need to lose once.

Panthers: likely to lose at least 2 of their last 5 with the saints twice, the falcons, bucs and browns. At 6-5 they need to lose at least 2.

And even if one of these 5 teams doesn't get to 7 losses that still would make the Packers the 6th seed. So idk what the percentages say but I do know that common sense says that if the Packers can take care of the hard part which would be winning 5 in a row when you haven't even won 2 in a row all season. Well the rest will work itself out and they be in if the two wild cards with a shot to win the tournament
So, let's get this straight. The Seahawks will beat the Vikings then lose to the Cardinals and Niners. Wow. Keep dreaming.
 

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Not really. A lot would have to happen. The Packers best bet is if the Bears lose 4 of the next 5, and that's not likely to happen. Although, if I was a Packer fan, I would be a pulling for the Giants, Bucs and Niners this week.

As has been stated elsewhere the "lot that would need to happen" is not that unlikely to happen. Eagles loose 1, Redskins, Seahawks, Panthers lose 2, vikings lose 3, 4 of those 5 happen and the Packers win out the Packers are in. I think the likelihood of 4 of those 5 happening is pretty good. I think the likelihood of the Packers winning out...not so good.
 

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Actually, the Vikings winning out would help the Packers. But don't let that little fact hurt your disdain for them.

Assuming the Bears don't lose their next 4 (and I am assuming they won't) the vikings only play one more game against a team with any bearing on the Packers chances (Seahawks) the vikings losing their next two might help the Packers more than the vikings winning out. Since the Seahawks need to lose 2 and the vikings 3 I'm not sure which would be a better outcome for that game. What is more likely, the vikings losing 2 more on top of that or the Seahawks losing 1. I'll wait to see what happens this week before I decide if I have to stoop to rooting for the vikings.
 

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So, let's get this straight. The Seahawks will beat the Vikings then lose to the Cardinals and Niners. Wow. Keep dreaming.

I think the Seahawks will lose one of those 3 games. They are divisional games and they can be tough. Depends on if the 9ers and Cards decide to fight it out for the #1 pick. Besides I don't subscribe to the transitive property when it comes to sporting events.
 

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So, let's get this straight. The Seahawks will beat the Vikings then lose to the Cardinals and Niners. Wow. Keep dreaming.

Didn't say they'd lose to both the Cardinals and the niners said they'd lose 1 of the 3 games against the niners (2) and the Cardinals (1) that they have remaining. Also losing to the chiefs giving them a record of 9-7. I have the Vikings making the playoffs what's your deal?
 

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Didn't say they'd lose to both the Cardinals and the niners said they'd lose 1 of the 3 games against the niners (2) and the Cardinals (1) that they have remaining. Also losing to the chiefs giving them a record of 9-7. I have the Vikings making the playoffs what's your deal?

Viqueens fans are as slow as HS dropouts, don't expect them to get anything.
 

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I've said it before I'll say it again. With a two-game lead plus the tiebreaker we are not catching the Vikings . That ship has sailed. Turn your attention instead to the Seahawks, Panthers, and NFL East runner up.
 

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I've said it before I'll say it again. With a two-game lead plus the tiebreaker we are not catching the Vikings . That ship has sailed. Turn your attention instead to the Seahawks, Panthers, and NFL East runner up.
What would you say if the Bears and Vikings both lose today? The Bears are at the Giants playing again with their backup QB. It's certainly possible they could lose. The Vikings are in New England. The Bears would be 8-4 and the Vikings 6-5-1. The Bears then play the Rams and Packers, so could fall to 8-6 very easily. The Vikings play at Seattle and could be 6-6-1. At this point, Green Bay winning out would put them within a half game of both teams, and the Vikings and Bears play each other week 17. No ship has sailed at this point.

That could change if the Vikings win today. I don't see that happening, however.
 
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Get Hot?
How many games were played since pre-season to "Get Hot"??

While it's unlikely the Packers get hot at the right time there's a small possibility of it happening.

Actually, the Vikings winning out would help the Packers. But don't let that little fact hurt your disdain for them.

Actually the Vikings going 2-3 with wins against Seattle and Chicago is best for the Packers.

Mike Daniels goes to injured reserve possibly ending his career as a packer. It looks like if the team moves on from him after the season they will be on the hook for only 2.4 million in dead money saving around 7.5 million against the salary cap. I suppose it depends on the coaching situation but that money could be used to bring in a player along the line that better fits pettines scheme

While the Packers would save $8.3 million in cap space by releasing Daniels I highly doubt the team is interested in doing it.
 
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