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In your opinion the way teams practice by the rules /act/go chasing the big contracts,
Could Vince Lombardi still coach a team in the NFL today?
 
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Imagine the strict Catholic coach Lombardi was hearing one of his players kick the shlt out of
his girl friend or wife.
Whatever the charges in the courts, their biggest fear would be facing Lombardi.
 
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It depends what you mean.

Are you assuming Lombardi rises from the grave today as the 57 year old man he was before he died, knowing nothing of the changing times and evolution of the game over the last 50 years? Rentering the game would be very difficult for obvious reasons, though the caricature of his personality as some harsh disciplinarian is a one-sided simplification. Demanding hard work, dedication and discipline never went out of style. He would probably appreciate how most players now treat conditioning as a year round job instead of having to burn off the fat in camp. In any case, nobody's going to hire a 57 year old intern to relearn everything, and the notoriety of being a man who rose from the dead intact after 48 years would keep him otherwise occupied.

Or are you assuming he was born 48 years later, was now 57 years old, and grew up in different times and in a different game? Would his approach have been the same? Surely not. Would he have invented the power sweep which was quite sophisticated with all kinds of variations based on the defensive alignments, an option run game. Unlikely. Would his football mind have invented something else? Perhaps. This scenario presents a different set of problems. He was a scholorship lineman at Fordam at 5' 8", 180 lbs. after being a fullback in high school not known for his athleticism. 50 years later he wouldn't have played college ball and might not have gotten off the bench in high school if he made the team at all. Without that experience he likely would never have gotten even a first job coaching, such as the high school assistant job he got through connections with his Fordham teammates.

No one is bound for success. It's a confluence of talent, place and time. That diminishes nothing, changes nothing.
 
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HRE, I'm betting he had considered all of those points before posing the question. I mean really man...did you answer the question? :whistling:
 

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Are you assuming Lombardi rises from the grave today as the 57 year old man he was before he died, knowing nothing of the changing times and evolution of the game over the last 50 years? Rentering the game would be very difficult for obvious reasons, though the caricature of his personality as some harsh disciplinarian is a one-sided simplification. Demanding hard work, didication and discipline never went out of style.
You're right, Belichick demands hard work, dedication, and discipline - and he gets it.
I like your question about re-entering the game without any knowledge of how the game has changed though:
"What the hell is wrong with you out there? Get your head down and tackle!"

He was a scholorship lineman at Fordam at 5' 8", 180 lbs. after being a fullback in high school not known for his athleticism. 50 years later he wouldn't have played college ball and might not have gotten off the bench in high school if he made the team at all. Without that experience he likely would never have gotten even a first job coaching, such as the high school assistant job he got through connections with his Forham teammates.
A fair point, he may not have been a coach at all. Given his proclivity at it, that would be a tragedy. Or maybe he'd be coaching basketball, maybe he'd be coaching the Lakers. You never know with these alternate universes. Maybe he would even have a mirror world Spock goatee.
 

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Above all else, Lombardi was a leader and a teacher. That translates across generations.

As an Xs and Os guy...hard to say. If he were an immortal that has kept up with changes over the last 60 or so years, he'd be fine.

If he could delegate to contemporary coordinators, he'd be fine.
 

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Above all else, Lombardi was a leader and a teacher. That translates across generations.

As an Xs and Os guy...hard to say. If he were an immortal that has kept up with changes over the last 60 or so years, he'd be fine.

If he could delegate to contemporary coordinators, he'd be fine.

Agree with this.

He's a "basics of the game" kind of guy. I have no doubt he'd be successful in any era.

As to other socio-political issues, should not be a problem. Segregation was far more troublesome than some players beating their eives/gf's and or doing drugs. Packers would be clean as qhistle team, though!
 

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