Tyni's Pre-RAS Top 50

[tynimiller]

Have settled in I think with my Top 50 pre-RAS grades...which massively good or massively bad RAS scores can factor and shift stuff IMO.

Notable Omissions - Nix, Penix, Devontez Walker, Frazier, Wilson, Braswell
Notables Higher On Than Most - Quinyon 13, Beebe 31, Haynes 43, Fiske 45, Sainristil 49 and Brooks 50

Positional breakdown is: 4 QBs / 1 RB / 7 WR / 1 TE / 13 OL / 4 DL / 6 EDGE / 3 LB / 8 CB / 3 S (including DeJean as I see him)

Player	Position	Ranking
Marvin Harrison Jr.	WR	1
Rome Odunze	WR	2
Brock Bowers	TE	3
Caleb Williams	QB	4
Drake Maye	QB	5
Terrion Arnold	CB	6
Joe Alt	OL	7
Laiatu Latu	EDGE	8
Jared Verse	EDGE	9
Dallas Turner	EDGE	10
Cooper Dejean	DB	11
Olumuyiwa Fashanu	OL	12
Quinyon Mitchell	CB	13
Jer'Zhan Newton	DL	14
Malik Nabers	WR	15
Taliesa Fuaga	OL	16
Tyler Guyton	OL	17
Amarius Mims	OL	18
JC Latham	OL	19
Chop Robinson	EDGE	20
Nate Wiggins	CB	21
Jordan Morgan	OL	22
Keon Coleman	WR	23
Kamari Lassiter	CB	24
Jayden Daniels	QB	25
Kamren Kinchens	S	26
Troy Franklin	WR	27
Ennis Rakestraw	CB	28
Jackson Powers-Johnson	OL	29
Byron Murphy	DL	30
Cooper Beebe	OL	31
Kool-Aid McKinstry	CB	32
Darius Robinson	EDGE	33
Brian Thomas Jr	WR	34
Tyler Nubin	S	35
T'Vondre Sweat	DL	36
Bralen Trice	EDGE	37
Edgerrin Cooper	LB	38
Junior Colson	LB	39
Patrick Paul	OL	40
Graham Barton	OL	41
Troy Fautanu	OL	42
Christian Haynes	OL	43
Adonai Mitchell	WR	44
Braden Fiske	DL	45
TJ Tampa	CB	46
JJ McCarthy	QB	47
Jeremiah Trotter	LB	48
Mike Sainristil	CB	49
Jonathan Brooks	RB	50

 

[PikeBadger]

Have settled in I think with my Top 50 pre-RAS grades...which massively good or massively bad RAS scores can factor and shift stuff IMO.

Notable Omissions - Nix, Penix, Devontez Walker, Frazier, Wilson, Braswell
Notables Higher On Than Most - Quinyon 13, Beebe 31, Haynes 43, Fiske 45, Sainristil 49 and Brooks 50

Positional breakdown is: 4 QBs / 1 RB / 7 WR / 1 TE / 13 OL / 4 DL / 6 EDGE / 3 LB / 8 CB / 3 S (including DeJean as I see him)

Player	Position	Ranking
Marvin Harrison Jr.	WR	1
Rome Odunze	WR	2
Brock Bowers	TE	3
Caleb Williams	QB	4
Drake Maye	QB	5
Terrion Arnold	CB	6
Joe Alt	OL	7
Laiatu Latu	EDGE	8
Jared Verse	EDGE	9
Dallas Turner	EDGE	10
Cooper Dejean	DB	11
Olumuyiwa Fashanu	OL	12
Quinyon Mitchell	CB	13
Jer'Zhan Newton	DL	14
Malik Nabers	WR	15
Taliesa Fuaga	OL	16
Tyler Guyton	OL	17
Amarius Mims	OL	18
JC Latham	OL	19
Chop Robinson	EDGE	20
Nate Wiggins	CB	21
Jordan Morgan	OL	22
Keon Coleman	WR	23
Kamari Lassiter	CB	24
Jayden Daniels	QB	25
Kamren Kinchens	S	26
Troy Franklin	WR	27
Ennis Rakestraw	CB	28
Jackson Powers-Johnson	OL	29
Byron Murphy	DL	30
Cooper Beebe	OL	31
Kool-Aid McKinstry	CB	32
Darius Robinson	EDGE	33
Brian Thomas Jr	WR	34
Tyler Nubin	S	35
T'Vondre Sweat	DL	36
Bralen Trice	EDGE	37
Edgerrin Cooper	LB	38
Junior Colson	LB	39
Patrick Paul	OL	40
Graham Barton	OL	41
Troy Fautanu	OL	42
Christian Haynes	OL	43
Adonai Mitchell	WR	44
Braden Fiske	DL	45
TJ Tampa	CB	46
JJ McCarthy	QB	47
Jeremiah Trotter	LB	48
Mike Sainristil	CB	49
Jonathan Brooks	RB	50

Must be a very poor draft for RB, DL, S, and TE at the top of the draft.

 

[tynimiller]

Must be a very poor draft for RB, DL, S, and TE at the top of the draft.

I've only been a zealot for about five years...but this is the worst top end of a RB and TE class I've seen. DL and Safety really bloats/grows in the 50-125 range nicely and I suspect many a story will come of successes at each of those groups in that range - they'll be some Tucker Kraft that emerges like Cade Stover or AJ Barner....safety my money is Hicks from Washington State, Bullard from Georgia or Bullock from USC as highly likely to make noise.

 

[tynimiller]

I'll be fully transparent on a few guys that I struggled with ranking them as high or where I did for very different reasons:

#47 JJ....I love everything about JJ the football player, his grit and will are impressive. He isn't a QB void of abilities either...but while there is so much to like, I cannot help but see a low ceiling....an Alex Smith type guy (sufficient to win and even push for a SB on right team) but I don't see a guy that is a franchise mover and could possibly be overassessed here on my list.

#2 Rome Odunze - I bring him up not because he is ahead of Caleb Williams but because my main hesitancy is not putting him ahead of MHJr. Yes, I truly in my heart of hearts think Rome might just be a better more ready pro than MHJr. I NEVER see Rome struggling to make an impact in a game, even in quiet ways. Rome's quiet games are still 75 yards on 5 receptions....Marvin was held below 40 yards 4 separate times this past season...Rome never...Rome's lowest game was 64 yards otherwise 80 or more. MHJr's pedigree is the only decider for me that keeps him at #1.

#31 Beebe...I just see ELITE guard at the next level for 8-10 years. Want a player comp - Zach Martin, one of the best guards in the game presently...both shorter, both shorter arms (expect sub 33 from Beebe like Martin) but just made to run the iOL position. While I'm high on Beebe compared to nearly all....I struggle with if I'm too low.

#41 Graham Barton....This could be high on him. Yes, he likely could play at any position, but iOL is more likely given measurables...but some awesome Tackle reps riddle his film. BUT, I just don't see an elite tackle, I don't think I see an elite guard either but I do see a guy that is going to be a solid starter for multiple contracts for someone, but isn't going to be like an all pro level guy. A guy folks may recognize I'll bring up is that he IMO is likely to be a poor man's Josh Sitton...won't earn All Pro like Sitton did once, but he could sneak on to a Pro Bowl as an alternate or such a time or two.

#11 Cooper DeJean - I'm so high on this playmaker that no one knows for sure if he plays corner, slot or safety....I say safety and myself I see potential of Kyle Hamilton level play potentially....that's insanely high praise and makes me hesitant.

 

[Dantés]

I see people that like Kinchens in round 1, others who see him in round 3, and everything in between.

 

[Thirteen Below]

It seems like everytime I see the latest rankings by basically anyone, my dream of getting Dejean fades a little more. Seems unlikely he'll slip this far.

 

[tynimiller]

I see people that like Kinchens in round 1, others who see him in round 3, and everything in between.

Yup, he and Nubin are generally considered clear best two safeties but the differences are massive.

Draft Network I believe it was actually has Beau Brade in top 50 too