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I couldn’t agree more with the trade back, unless somehow Jacee Horn falls into the 20s for a trade up, I can’t imagine the team will pick anything but an offensive lineman, iDL or CB in the first round, those that could be available at 32 could easily get some steals by moving back and getting two players for the price of one.

Also, looks like someone may have taken a peek at my draft to go with Jarett Patterson, ay? Haha in all seriousness this kid is a baller. His stock is going to rise, unless he totally blows the combine/proday. One of my favorite RBs to watch and have seen a lot of him as my father in law is a Buffalo die hard. I expect him to go by the third, but could see him fall to the 5th as I don’t think he will have the fastest 40 time out there.

Oh seriously on Jarrett? Guess we can co chair the fan club for him. Dude is a straight player. I agree he could launch into the 3rd but I still think his size and 40 will keep him in the 4th/5th range if not dropping to 6th.

Darden WR from North Texas is a guy I love as well that is undersized.
 
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Welp....needed a post-game pick me up, so decided to do a serious mock before February (was trying to wait).

Again, I'm operating under the assumption of the following: Offensive losses/cuts are as follows:

Cuts/Losses - Linsley, Jones and Wagner
Maybe gone - Lane Taylor, Funchess
DEFENSIVELY:
Cuts/Losses - Preston, Kirksey, Lowry, Burks, King
Maybe gone - Sullivan

Round 1 Pick 29 - Traded to Dallas for Pick 42 (2nd) and 99 (3rd) Dallas sitting on the 74th in the 3rd also makes them a prime candidate to move up if they desire.

*Round 2 Pick 42 - Paulsen Adebo - Stanford CB
The more I watch the more I love his fit for GB, and could easily see us picking him over the likes of Campbell or Newsome should Gute be confronted with that option as I was here. Paulsen will clearly be an outside only type guy, but that is fine by me as that is exactly what we need. He shows skillset to excel in Man or Zone schemes - which with Pettine maybe heading out, it is good to grab a guy with the tangibles and intangibles to do all. Let's get what I think could easily be a Day 1 upgrade over King. He isn't as tall as King, but at 6'1' he is plenty long enough and his hips and feet are better than King's IMO.

Round 2 Pick 61 - Darius Stills - West Virginia iDL
Two inches shorter than Clark at 6'1', but bout 30 lbs smaller as well at tick over 280. Stills is my type of interior lineman and can be the disruptive force we see Clark do at the pro level, the question is will Stills be able to do in the NFL as he did in college. The crucial blessing he will have is not being asked to be the #1, but I would fully expect some SERIOUS snapcount tallies if Stills joins our ranks. He is not quite as slight as Keke, and could stand up against the run more consistently than Keke. That's what I love about Stills, he offers a situational depth guy that shows chops to possibly do some of what Clark provides in earlier downs, and the push that Keke provides in passing downs.

Round 3 Pick 92 - Patrick Jones III - Pittsburgh Edge/DE
He is not an experienced standing edge guy having been more of a DE, so some may argue where does he fit - fair - but I see a talent too good to be overlooked here. I see the ability to be that standing/hand in the ground versatile guy which can be something special for us. Produces pressure and an edge which is incredibly attractive. Let's continue to put a front out there that QBs do NOT enjoy playing. Measurables are 6'5' 260lbs, has the frame work to me to EASILY go bigger or stay slighter.

*Round 3 Pick 99 - Baron Browning - Ohio State ILB
I love Browning and believe he has an insanely HIGH ceiling. He has the chops and the ability to turn hips and match a RB like Etienne step for step, attacks rushers violently and shows chops in coverage over the middle and flats. I know many feel he is a 4th round or later, but watch his tape, I think you will quickly understand why I am not waiting and honestly he could be gone here IMO.

Round 4 Pick 133 - Whop Philyor - Indiana WR
Offense wasn't the issue, but when it was an issue it was usually lack of playmakers. Whop is a guy that excelled in manufactured plays and has ZERO fear over the middle, which attacking that out of the slot is still something we need to be stronger in IMO. Whop is a poor mans' Toney or Moore, but I'd argue has more pure receiving chops than either - but definitely needs some growth. Easily can come in and be that motion/jet sweep guy, while also getting work at slot for us in this system.

Round 4 Pick 140 - Brady Christensen - BYU OT
Brady is a tackle prospect I'm stuck not quite sure what he will translate into. While he has held down the left side for years at BYU, I personally feel a switch to RT is more likely. At this point in the draft, getting a guy with RT starting potential, POSSIBLY LT in pinches if needed and definitely enough ability to go inside - I'll take it and like it.

Round 5 Pick 172 - Bryan Mills - North Carolina Central CB
Alright fellas, here is one you may not be aware of being an FCS guy. He has all the measurables and has excelled with what was placed in front him. Yes, the level of opponents is going to be higher, but if his skillset and hips and foot technique stay and he can be coached up or refined he is that Day 3 gem that begins to shine in 2022 for you. 6'2' and quite slender at only 170lbs - he however, does attack in run support, but just isn't the best tackler with his sleek frame.

Round 5 Pick 178 - Tommy Kraemer - Notre Dame iOL
This man is a beast, and could come in and play a guard spot for us Day 1 if needed. IF Wagner is cut and IF they desire to maybe focus Runyon outside Kraemer could be a serious contender at guard, and no joke he has the frame to possibly take a crack at RT - more of a power run blocker, I think in an RPO type system he could shine. Wagner cut most likely, Lane Taylor coming off severe injury and good candidate not to be resigned, plus throw in Linsley gone most likely...let's grab another guy with serious upside.

Round 6 Pick 209 - Jermar Jefferson Oregon State RB
Kareem Hunt type guy would be the ceiling I'd place upon him, but in all reality a solid contributor for a change of pace role RB I expect could complement Dillon and possibly also Williams for us in 2021. He can cut block in pass pro well, handles primary routes out of the backfield well and shows hands. Solid selection for a Day 3 option.

Round 6 - Pick 217 - Tarron Jackson Coastal Carolina EDGE
6'2' 270lbs the dude is raw, but to me if he can carve into what he has there - sky is the limit. This is the one pick in this mock that I think some may say with merit is a reach to be available. However, Day 3 picks are tough to grade, and Edge is a position guys tend to go slightly higher than they should....however he was there and even though we already added Stills and Jones I'm throwing another guy into the mix to make our front 7 that much deeper and deadlier hopefully.

Round 7 - Pick 252 - DiCaprio Bootle Nebraska CB
5'10' 195lbs he is on the shorter and stockier side of things but this man has a ton of experience. I suspect he could battle for the Sullivan spot OR even possibly a S/CB hybrid role. Either way at this point in the draft I like the risk/reward here of a guy that could be something with experience. Very similar to Vernon Scott in what he is vs what he could be.


Worth Noting - Yes defensive focus, never was I pinned in towards that intentionally and really the only time I was truly weighing options and Defense won vs Offense on my board was Nico Collins at pick 42 and Elijah Moore at pick 61. Was bummed to come away without a TE project, but I don't believe the shelf is bare even if Lewis walks if we hang on to Tonyan - we still got Stern in a show us year and Deguara and Dafney both showing they can handle that H Back role.
 
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I have Adebo on the back end of the 3rd Round, and Stills as a Day 3 Pick, but that's just me.

I just can't see Gute taking Philyor with his frame. I think the shortest he would go is probably 6"1 and 6"2 and 195lbs+

With no Combine and Shrine game I'd take Mills 6th or 7th Round.

I like Jackson but I think he goes a round earlier with the way Coastal played this year.

Bootle is off my board because of Ahmad Carrol.:rolleyes:
 
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I hear ya, but I trust my board, Stills was perhaps the only time I choice his current over what I feel Twyman is, I believe he is an absolute stud ceiling wise...but Stills I think walks in and suits us more.

Adebo lasting till the 3rd while maybe, I believe would be autrocious for the GMs letting that happen
 
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I have Adebo on the back end of the 3rd Round, and Stills as a Day 3 Pick, but that's just me.

I just can't see Gute taking Philyor with his frame. I think the shortest he would go is probably 6"1 and 6"2 and 195lbs+

With no Combine and Shrine game I'd take Mills 6th or 7th Round.

I like Jackson but I think he goes a round earlier with the way Coastal played this year.

Bootle is off my board because of Ahmad Carrol.:rolleyes:


I'd also say Mills is a guy I don't want to wait on. I like him, a lot, and I'm not gonna wait till the 6th to hope he is there. Not many other guys outside of a few skill position types that I think made more sense there.

Whop is a guy admittedly I like, I think MLF would like and I know AR would appreciate...but does Gute like him? He isn't a Gute type guy given his short track record, BUT he has now had 2 seasons to see what MLF system is about and he may understand the value of him. I still have an inch that Nico Collins and Sage Surratt are two guys now with Olave not entering draft being red circled by Gute as Green Bay fits. Not opposed to either and see Nico definitely as the bigger play bigger ceiling type guy, but Surratt is like a refined slightly more athletic Lazard IMO - that could be that consistent WR, that never really is a #1 but solid - which is the role we need truly.
 
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Working on a story piece for fun for this mock scenario...which reflecting on it as I've said is PRECISELY what my goal of this draft would be as far as making moves.

What if I told you that all of the "Rodgers never gets weapons" talk has not always fallen on deaf ears? What if I told you Gute attempted multiple times post-Love pick to nab WRs they liked at the top of the 2nd? What if I told you 2021 is the year he finally gets a "yes" on one of those calls....but not after PISSING off a fan base yet again first:

Sitting on the clock at Pick 29...Moore is there, Toney is there - both would be deadly weapons in the MLF system. "Trade" flashes on the screen and in mere seconds keyboards are pounded, beers a chugged and numerous rumblings for Gute's job surge through the interwebs.

The trade sends our #29 First Rounder to the Panthers. In return we get their #43 (2nd) #112 (4th) & #232 (7th).

From a value stance it is fair trade and Panthers get a guy that would have helped the Packers as well in Nick Bolton LB.

Picks start ticking away...Toney goes to the Chiefs at 32 - another weapon added to an insanely potent offensive juggernaut, awesome. The Bengals at #37 give Burrow a weapon in Moore...we also see Asante Samuel CB, Chazz Surratt LB and Baron Browning LB all linked as targets for the Packers go off the board. Our number is finally up...many are rumbling for Amon St. Brown or Nico Collins...others saying grab Elijah Moore and a few others ask for Eskridge. JUST GET RODGERS A WEAPON ESSENTIALLY.

The pick is in, and with the 40th pick of the 2021 NFL Draft the Green Bay Packers pick Daviyon Nixon iDL Iowa. Now, while many scream and bemoan...the logical fans cannot help but smile at what just happened. Gute bounces back in the draft, add pick equity and nabs what many feel could end up being the best iDL in the 2021 draft. A 'kid' from Kenosha, WI - Nixon will get to take the field for his home state's storied franchise and instantly walks in as the second best person in his position's room. Kenny Clark is ecstatic and Packer fans even screaming at the moment will change their tune eventually.

Fans and forums start discussing likely options at Pick #61, our next pick. Amon St. Brown, Eskridge, Atwell and/or Elijah Moore seem to be the favorites at WR to look to...with others wondering if Tommy Tremble or Hunter Long could fill an offensive weapon but at the TE position?

As discussion rages, "Trade" pops up on all our screens and the smallest of thoughts wonder if perhaps Gute finally got a yes for a weapon. Nico Collins is by leaps and bounds the best WR still available to nearly every pundit and fan...but no this isn't how the narrative is supposed to go - we don't draft WR's this high or at all...

Packers have traded away their #61 (2nd) and their third round pick....WAIT WHAT??? Dear Lord we must want this player....the third round pick is their 2022 Pick though; no doubt Gute is willing to trade next year equity for now in part for Rodgers (hopefully) but also with Jones, Linsley and King all signing elsewhere compensatory picks are heading our way.

With the 43rd pick of the 2021 NFL draft, the Green Bay Packers select Nico Collins WR - Michigan.

Some say, that if you were outside when the pick was announced you could hear a gentle rumble if you live in the Midwest - for the state of Wisconsin was cheering LOL. Finally, Green Bay had made a move for an pass catching weapon.

Nico Collins, opted out of the 2020 season at Michigan...but many had him pegged as a guy fighting to be included in the 1st round had he played. His skillset is immense, but his ego is not. Exhibiting that Jordy Nelson approach to talking with his performance and not his mouth Nico projects very well at the next level and is what I'd label a "Packer guy". 6'4 and 215lbs he is that bigger type WR we all know Gute loves, but with that size there is no loss in the categories of release, wiggle or route running (albeit majority of his tree is deeper stuff). He projects to be a low 4.5 type guy, but that frame is rarely much quicker elsewhere and he plays incredibly fast though as his burst off the line or first few steps out of a break are quicker than most. Be happy Packer nation, most pundits are fairly certain you just got that receiving threat of the future to help Rodgers and Adams.

Breathing easier the draft begins to move on for Packer nation...no more trades occur for Gute and the following unfolds.

#92 (3rd) - Joe Tryon EDGE - Washington - Provides instantly our #3 behind Z and Gary for 2021 and makes the departure of Preston less of a worry.

#112 (4th) - Shakur Brown - CB - Michigan State - While at 5'11', he has the edginess needed to line up outside and possibly become an answer to our #2 outside CB riddle left by King's departure. He will join Ka'Dar, Jackson, Samuel, Ento and others trying to provide the answer.

#133 (4th) - Cade Sterns - S - Texas - His abilities limit this as nearing where I'd expect him to not be gobbled up. Has the coverage chops to perhaps become our Nickel or easily a 3rd safety in sub packages.

#140 (4th) - Keith Taylor - CB - Washington - One Washington guy in King leaves, we welcome in another big/tall (6'3'), willing tackler type CB that could be the answer outside but his size and experience of sliding inside also makes him perhaps an instant Sullivan replacement. High upside type guy.

#172 (5th) - Demetric Felton - RB/Hybrid WR - UCLA - Stud playmaker and change of pace RB option that would pair incredibly well with Dillon and Williams (which is my predicted resignee not Jones). I'll expound some, think Tyler Ervin but a slight all around upgrade in all things with the ball in his hands and when lined up at RB.

#178 (5th) - Adrian Ealy - OT - Oklahoma - A guy that weighs right short of 330 but on his nearly 6'7' frame he looks quite athletic for a big man. RT or swing inside candidate with plethora of experience upgrades the depth and potential starting line.

#209 (6th) - Jimmy Morrissey - iOL/C - Pittsburgh - Three year starter and will serve as serious competition at the 2021 starting center position for the Packers.

#217 (6th) - Matt Bushman - TE - BYU - The offensive selections are still coming in for us. Bushman is not a top flight TE, but projects very capable to become a TE2 or TE3 with redzone ability and seam qualities.

#232 (7th) - Cade Johnson - WR - South Dakota State - Short (5'10), twitchy and excellent RAC type of a guy despite probably showing a lower 40 time than some would imagine he would have (hear 4.4 floating around). However, excellent possible gadget weapon, slot WR if grows and PR/KR returner candidate out the gate.

#252 (7th) - Ben Petrula - OT - Boston College - Was a starter at center in 2017, before swinging out and starting at right tackle since. Very experienced and versatile guy I could see honestly competing everywhere but LT, and even in a pinch could probably get a team by in emergencies.

**Two big things do frustrate me about this draft. We are unable to grab a CB in the top tier level on my board. I like Shakur, but the way the draft played unless I forced some more draft equity into another trade Shakur was best available and at a spot that made sense. It helps then that the next two picks played out well for secondary guys on my board as well...with that though fell any chance of getting a true viable options on my board for a LB I liked. A reach could have been made in the 5th but Felton and Ealy ranked higher than their slots by some and also mix with needs. So LB is the big loss here, and honestly a draft like this could save Kirksey in GB, IF we can afford it or we could see a veteran type one year signing to help the core group of Barnes, Martin and Summers.
 
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From what I’ve read on the SR Bowl, Felton is fuuuun.

More receiver than RB, quicker than fast, but not slow. I like what I’ve seen/read a lot. Could play the Ervin role.
 
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From what I’ve read on the SR Bowl, Felton is fuuuun.

More receiver than RB, quicker than fast, but not slow. I like what I’ve seen/read a lot. Could play the Ervin role.

To me he is an upgraded Ervin that offers more lined up as a RB though.
 
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Was going to avoid doing a draft, but post Senior Bowl seems as fitting as any other time...

I enjoyed the story style but let's keep it shorter, but provide a brief overview:

When 29 comes up I looked at my board and saw a lot of guys I liked on my board and without any of my top flight CBs falling (Horn, Stokes, Surtain and Farley) to me the value was there to trade back and prepare to maybe sling forward then after. Traded 29 for 42 and 114.

You'll notice 3 Corners are selected in this draft, two are IMO type of guys that will deliver impact out the gates and Elijah Molden I pulled the trade up scenario watching him still there in the 3rd - traded 140 (4th) 178 (5th) & 217 (6th) for #84.

Gute and company sees if lightning can strike twice from the UCLA well - taking one the most intriguing and guys that showed up at the Senior Bowl in iDL Osa Odighizuwa.

I knew I wanted a WR at some point, and at 114 I'll be honest folks the pick came down to four guys on my board that are neck and neck for variety of reasons; Sage Surratt, Anthony Schwartz, Dazz Newsome and Josh Imatobhebhhe. All are insanely gifted and provide different benefits. Surratt is the most all round complete guy so I drew his straw.

#42 - Tyson Campbell CB - Georgia
Possibly one of the most athletic CBs in the draft, would walk in with the expectation of starting opposite Jaire from Day 1.
#61 - Dillun Radunz OT - North Dakota State
RT for now most likely with Bahk's future replacement quite possibly what he grows into.
#84 - Elijah Molden CB - Washington
I have him circled as an outside shot at playing on the outside, but most likely a very very good slot/nickel use DB right out the gates.
#92 - Osa Odighizuwa iDL - UCLA
Ooober athletic, a thinner DL body type but could very quickly be a deadly pairing with Clark and Keke
#114 - Sage Surratt WR - Wake Forest
Arguably a complete WR, albeit just not polished really well in anything but good in everything. Smooth guy that could become something special with time and growth.
#133 - Kylin Hill RB - Mississippi State
Dude is a Mid-Tier RB I've had circled for a while, showed out at Senior Bowl and is a great pairing stylistic wise with what I assume with be a backfield with Williams and Dillon
#172 - Tarron Jackson EDGE - Coastal Carolina
He is a little too slight, but his ability to rush the passer is IMPRESSIVE and we instantly have the depth behind Gary and Z (and Garvin some) with the loss of Preston expected.
#209 - Drew Dalman iOL - Stanford
His potential value is too immense here. Starter at center with some guard experience, will enter camp battling for C role vacated by Linsley along with as many as three others.
#252 - Bryan Mills CB - North Carolina Central
I LOVE this guy, small school dude that shows the raw traits of being an excellent find...he has never had to show it against high caliber competition, but did above average at the Senior Bowl and should be selected in the draft IMO.
 
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Molden can’t play outside. Good slot though.

I drafted him for slot, but I liken him and his ability to play outside like Lucas Patrick playing RT...I don't want it in the plans, but I think he can if pushed to more than some think.
 
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So in my boredom I played out a similar scenario 5 times last night and once again this morning. Let's say 29 comes and no offers to build equity back that are worthwhile happen, Mac Jones isn't still there so a team wanting that 5th year option that need a QB aren't calling us like I'd hoped...Barmore goes right before us at 28 so no DL hungry team isn't calling and the top flight CBs all are gone...so we have to pick. The most intriguing mock with no illogical trades or players unrealistically falling was as follows:

#29 - Kadarius Toney WR
It may seem crazy to think but losing the Tampa Bay game could actually be what lands Toney in Green Bay. He is a weapon Arians would have salivated over and not too mention the Bills and the Buccs are both set to lose some WR threats via Free Agency most likely and WR would have been on their radar...those two spots could actually be the difference between him being there for us and not. I know many are clamoring for Moore from PU out the gate of draft discussions...dude is SCARY with the ball, but his injuries and tiny size make me unwilling to draft him unless he falls into the 3rd. Toney on the other hand is 5'11' and built like a running back, that flies like a wide out. His near 200lb frame shouldn't be able to perform like it does. He is simply offers too much to our system, dynamic/RAC/speedster for MLF and Rodgers is drafted...with it goes a chance at CBs like Samuel Jr and Campbell...plus could cost us a shot at LBs like Surratt/Cox or even Bolton or Collins should they drop.

#61 - Chazz Surratt LB
I know many project he will be here but it was still quick to get him picked. Such a smart ex-QB playing the LB spot with insane athletic ability just doesn't happen much. Whomever our DC ends up being Chazz will for sure be a weapon brandished often. Solid pick here.

Now for the only move/trade the whole mock. Watching the few remaining CBs I have graded out as being able to most likely walk into the starting role opposite of Jaire - not stud out the gate - are dwindling and I pounce before I run out of any of them. Trading our 3rd rounder in the 2022 draft (we should get some 4ths for comps I'd imagine with Jones and Linsley contracts) and one of our 4th rounders this draft. More than I'd like or anyone to give up, but worth it - we get the 76th and a late 7th compensatory pick #241 from Washington.

#76 - Paulson Adebo CB
I've spoken about him, he is firmly in my personal Tier 3 of CBs out there. A guy with all the potential in the world and worst case I feel will be as good as King was - I know not what Packer nation necessarily wants to hear but I'll take it - with the chance to be better.


#92 - Hunter Long TE
This is a guy I could see go as high as late 2nd - to first couple picks in the 4th. TE is such a hard class to gauge outside the clear top tier guys (this year Pitts and Freiermuth only two...and Pitts only 1st rounder) Long is there with Brevin and Tremble as TE 3/4/5. Excellent weapon for the system, could potentially be a more receiver based Big Dawg with time...but I think immediately makes Stern a cut risk potentially. Adding another weapon...

#133 - Jaylen Twyman iDL
Twyman is a guy that gets hurt some with no 2020 season and not doing the Senior Bowl. Dude is a nasty pressure threat wherever you line him up along the trenches. Could grow into a real true 3 down type guy, but the blessing is as long as we have Clark that won't be totally necessary.

#172 - Patrick Johnson EDGE/OLB
This cat is a rush specialist with phenomenal athleticism. Tulane is a smaller school so his exposure to better lines is limited but his technique is so natural. Very solid tackler as well.

#178 - Simi Fehoko WR
Let me tell you about the other of my two mid-draft crushes at WR (the other is IMATORBHEBHE). Fehoko is a TALL son of a gun. 6'4' and weighs around 225...his catch radius and ball plucking abilities in contested balls is exceptional and his biggest strength. He is not a burner but does show speed enough to separate on 9 routes. One of those mid-round flyers that could be special.

#209 - Brenden Jaimes OT
One of my Day 3 tackles I actually think could possibly win a battle to be a team's RT - that'd be a steal for this spot. Most likely he is either a slide inside for 2021 if needed or the RT of 2022 perhpas.

#217 - Bryan Mills CB
I've already expressed my beliefs in this FCS product out of North Carolina Central. His technique is awesomes, hips top shelf...the biggest question is refinement and ability to do it with NFL level talent....

#241 - CJ Marable RB
A dual threat running back from Coastal Carolina - don't sleep on the change of pace he could offer in a backfield paired with Dillon (and possibly Williams)

#252 - Syrus Tuitele OT
Crazy long, but may not have the ability to play outside in NFL...inside slide or full time swing depth type guy role.
 
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Trying to space these out more, but 10 days is enough LOL:

I call this the "Roll With Barnes/Martin" Draft

Here's the thing...I value ILB much higher than GB as a whole has historically...and to be fair ILB has your insane next level guys and then a slurry tank forms of immense high caliber and low caliber guys hard to figure out as much as all of us try. So, I truly think Gute is confident rolling with Barnes/Martin and building around them not over them.

With that in mind when #29 comes up and Bolton is sitting there to have we pass and answer the call from the middle of the draft pick heavy Cowboys that call. They offer up Pick #42 and #99 to slide up to #29. It's a heavy load getting us back into having 4 picks in the top 100.

#42 Ifeatu Melifonwu 6'2'' 212lbs Cornerback, Syracuse

#61 Josh Myers 6'5'' 312lbs iOL/Center, Ohio State

#92 Alim McNeill 6'2'' 315lbs iDL, NC State

#99 Kary Vincent Jr 5'10'' 189lbs Cornerback, LSU

#134 Anthony Schwartz 6'0'' 179lbs WR, Auburn

#142 Patrick Johnson 6'3'' 255lbs EDGE, Tulane

#174 Garret Wallow 6'2'' 230lbs LB, TCU

#178 Jermar Jefferson 5'9'' 215lbs RB, Oregon State

#214 Josh Ball 6'8'' 350lbs OT, Marshall

#221 Trevon Grimes 6'4'' 217lbs WR, Florida

#250 Lamont Wade 5'9'' 190lbs S, Penn State

Takeaway notes...while ignoring ILB when the likes of Bolton (Day 1) or Surratt/Cox types were present (Day 2) we do get a smaller framed attacker in Garret Wallow that the more I watch the more I absolutely love adding him to our LB room. Go watch him...you will like him more than I bet you thought you would.

Melifonwu is slowly trying to change my thought process on where he ranks in the CBs of 2021 draft. I for certain thought he was a bottom of Round 2 graded guy MAYBE...to I just cannot argue I feel he might just be better than some others I originally pegged above him. The reactionary speed he has in that frame is special.

At #99 many will argue is too soon for Vincent Jr...but to me he has the raw skills of a top 100 player - it is just unknown if he will ever learn to utilize it all and he is slightly undersized. However, we in three short rounds may have very well found our future outside CB opposite Jaire and now our slot replacement...oh and not too mention a guy that should enter day 1 as a serious contender to be our Center in Myers plus McNeill could shine in his support role to Clark.

Rest of the draft includes an absolute slot burner in Schwartz that I'm intrigued just how much lower than 4.4 he runs - but here's the kicker, his hands are above average....imagine spreading a defense with him and MVS, both legit sub 4.4. guys!! Jermar Jefferson is that Day 3 RB that could see action out the gate given his strong hands and experience in the passing side of things...Trevon Grimes is a MASSIVE possession style WR to replace Taylor IMO with a higher upside possibly....Wade is a SHORT safety that plays big, it's like he wants every ball carrier to have to look up at him after the plays.
 
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Love your assessment of prospects.

There is absolutely no way I’d trade 29 for 42 and 99 and I don’t think Gutekunst would either. For me it would be 42 and 74.
 
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Love your assessment of prospects.

There is absolutely no way I’d trade 29 for 42 and 99 and I don’t think Gutekunst would either. For me it would be 42 and 74.

You aren't getting 42 and their 74 IMO. Now could gut do 42, 99 and a maybe a 6th or something sure...I didn't want to muddy it with too many picks involved.
 

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You aren't getting 42 and their 74 IMO. Now could gut do 42, 99 and a maybe a 6th or something sure...I didn't want to muddy it with too many picks involved.
I think if you looked at a chart of former draft pick trades you’d find my valuation pretty close to the mark. It’s a pretty big jump from 42 to 29.
 
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I think if you looked at a chart of former draft pick trades you’d find my valuation pretty close to the mark. It’s a pretty big jump from 42 to 29.

It is possibly, but I also don't think Dallas does that trade. It could have been a different team with maybe a 34-39 pick paried with a 4th instead.
 
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