Two Scenarios: Pick One

[Forget Favre]

I would rather have Lacy, Monty and Michaels ahead of him

You are right, Rodgers running ability has always impressed me, he typically can get away with it without taking a hit, but on Sunday he did twice and that part of it always gets me out of my seat. Since his leg injuries, he isn't the runner he was earlier in the year and that has and may continue to cost the Packers a few first downs along the way. News out of GB is that his injuries "feel better", but I would rather see the RB's do the running from here on out and keep AR healthy. Unless of course he sees that "easy first down" and can pick it up without being touched.

It's very unusual for a QB to be one of the top runners of the team.
It's not supposed to be like that.
But when RBs go down or get stopped too easily, well why not?

I hope Ty keeps on keeping on and may he embarrass AP all day when they play the Vikings.

 

[gopkrs]

xpack...of course you are correct that it is way to early for Montgomery to be compared to Hurnung. I was thinking that the patience he shows while coming up to the line is similar to Hornung. It is also similar to that guy in Pittsburgh.

 

[Forget Favre]

Latest image out of Green Bay of Lacy on his scooter, this might be a good sign?

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I have never been so grateful for a headlight before.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Honestly I've seen one good run from CM till now. Despite his talent he's been cut from 5 teams in 3 years. I wouldn't trust him to be anything more than #3 RB in depth charts.

I don't think CM will be offered much other than #3 RB money. However, I would much rather see what he has and keep him on the team as that #3 guy then do what we did this year and have nobody. Crockett should be back to compete, as well as any drafted or UDFA RB's.

 

[Pkrjones]

Despite his talent he's been cut from 5 teams in 3 years. I wouldn't trust him to be anything more than #3 RB in depth charts.

GB expects different things than other teams from their RB's so a RB's success or failure on another team doesn't necessarily mean much. Michael was the leading rusher for Seattle while there in '16, so the guy's got some talent. I'd like to see him mixed into the RB rotation on plays that he knows what to do and formations in which he knows the audible checks.

Ahman Green & a 5th round pick were traded for Fred Vinson & a 6th... so Holmgren was anxious to get rid of Green, who ended-up being a 7 year workhorse for GB.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Another example of stats being next to useless. You have no idea how good Hornung was. At the start of his career and at the end of it for several years he hardly played. He could do it all and was a great blocker for Taylor. Lombardi once said that Hornung was the best around the goal line. That he could just sense it.

I probably watched every game Hornung ever played. Yes, he was the blocker for Taylor on the power sweep. Actually, Lombardi said he was the better runner inside the 20 yard line. And Lombardi's opinion was colored by the fact that Hornung was what Lombardi wished he was while Taylor was always bugging him about getting paid more money.

In the Montgomery comparison, I would observe that the power sweep is not in the current Packer repertoire. Hornung threw 5 or 6 passes per year; the stats there are not impressive and again, that's not in the current repertoire.

And finally, you lack a sense of irony.

 

[HardRightEdge]

While Lacy performed on a significant better level this season than in 2015 him being overweight most likely contributed to the ankle injury.

How do you come to that conclusion? I see it as a case of bulling through a bevy of tacklers with such regularity that sooner or later somebody is going to fall on something or twist something.

 

[XPack]

GB expects different things than other teams from their RB's so a RB's success or failure on another team doesn't necessarily mean much. Michael was the leading rusher for Seattle while there in '16, so the guy's got some talent. I'd like to see him mixed into the RB rotation on plays that he knows what to do and formations in which he knows the audible checks.

Ahman Green & a 5th round pick were traded for Fred Vinson & a 6th... so Holmgren was anxious to get rid of Green, who ended-up being a 7 year workhorse for GB.

Not disputing that. Just saying we should retain all 3 and not choose between them.

 

[gopkrs]

I don't understand the irony part Hard Edge

 

[HardRightEdge]

I don't understand the irony part Hard Edge

That somebody would compare Montgomery to Hornung, that I prescribed 15 touches per game for Montgomery (which many posters here would thing is too few), that Hornung's high water mark for touches in a season was 15, and that Hornung's 15 was in the run first era, and that Hornung's utility as a blocker was in a scheme from a very different place and time.

Maybe we should just call it "funny".

The irony relates to the 15 touch comparison. At that level, Montgomery is more involved in the offense than Hornung ever was except as a blocker.

 

[gopkrs]

Well you have to remember that it was the era of two running backs and Taylor got the bulk of carries. Again my comparison (though I did not point it out well) was the patience he uses when running the ball.

 

[HardRightEdge]

On the Hornung/Montogomery comparison, or more specifically on the subject of Hornung.

It occurred to me in some random reverie this evening that Jim Brown had an accomplished blocking back who was a good runner in his own right: Ernie Green.

Never heard of him? Compare his stats to those of Hornungs, keeping in mind, to repeat, that Green was an outstanding blocker while also being a productive receiver:

Green: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GreeEr01.htm

Hornung: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HornPa00.htm

So, what is there to recommend Hornung over Green, a guy lost to the fog of history?

- Hornung was the Golden Boy, the Heisman winner, bringing some style and charisma to the game at the advent of the media era. Along with Gifford, he was guy who give the league a handsome face with a full set of gleaming teeth.
- Hornung, by virtue of being a mediocre kicker, set the NFL scoring record that stood until Tomlinson broke it 46 years later.
- While Lombardi had a man crush on Hornung, I believe some of those laudatory complements of Hornung were as much intended to get under Taylor's skin as a motivational ploy.
- Hornung was suspended for a year for gambling on NFL games which should have been a disqualifier for the HOF. But no, he was the Golden Boy.

Based on performance on the field, Hornung is one of the most undeserving players in the HOF. Would the Packers have won as many games with Ernie Green? Probably.

 

[Forget Favre]

I would like to pick a third scenario that involves the girl I had my first crush on, a bottle of molasses and something to do with socket wrenches and a fedora along with Q-tips.
Really.
It's not what you think.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

It's very unusual for a QB to be one of the top runners of the team.
It's not supposed to be like that.

Donovan McNabb was the last quarterback to lead his team in rushing yards with the Eagles during the 2000 season.

How do you come to that conclusion? I see it as a case of bulling through a bevy of tacklers with such regularity that sooner or later somebody is going to fall on something or twist something.

Lacy reaggrevated his ankle injury by hurdling a defender vs. the Cowboys. I'm quite sure him being overweight contributed to the additional damage.

 

[Packer Brother]

Well under no circumstances should Lacy come back and Michael leaves. I'd pick all three. Otherwise, Lacy should go.

 

[sschind]

I would like to pick a third scenario that involves the girl I had my first crush on, a bottle of molasses and something to do with socket wrenches and a fedora along with Q-tips.
Really.
It's not what you think.

It couldn't possibly be what I think.