Tracking the 2023 Green Bay Roster

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He already counts $7.95mil dead $ on the cap, there's no more money left to pay him. Hope Gute doesn't sign him to a ridiculous 4 yr/$32mil deal at vet min in '23 and a dead money hit of $10-$12mil in '27. Clear cap room now, let older vets leaIMHO. that's the prudent way forward, imho.

The Packers currently have $12.6 million of effective cap space according to OTC. If they want to they could definitely sign Amos to a reasonable deal. I wouldn't be in favor of offering him anything close to what you suggested above though.

With Rodgers and teams that were finishing at the top each regular season, the Packers were making more moves designed to address the present.

Unfortunately the Packers didn't do that enough when Rodgers was still around.
 
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The Packers have been awarded DL Kenneth Odumegwu via the NFL's International Player Pathway program.
 
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The Packers have been awarded DL Kenneth Odumegwu via the NFL's International Player Pathway program.

Dude looks like an athlete, zero details beyond that but I love the PS exemption such a player gets and gives us. Do we submit a list of guys we'd like after the IPP combine or does the league just randomly assign?
 

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Dude looks like an athlete, zero details beyond that but I love the PS exemption such a player gets and gives us. Do we submit a list of guys we'd like after the IPP combine or does the league just randomly assign?

Cool program, wasn't aware of it. From the 2 articles that I read, it sounds like the top 8 players from the program are determined and then randomly allocated to the 2 divisions that are eligible to receive a player each year.
 
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Cool program, wasn't aware of it. From the 2 articles that I read, it sounds like the top 8 players from the program are determined and then randomly allocated to the 2 divisions that are eligible to receive a player each year.

These dudes go through a ton to make it this far....massive international combine....select few that test well enough there come to US for three months of extensive training and only the elite of those get assigned. Neat program.
 
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Dude looks like an athlete, zero details beyond that but I love the PS exemption such a player gets and gives us. Do we submit a list of guys we'd like after the IPP combine or does the league just randomly assign?

@Pokerbrat2000 is correct about players being randomly drawn to teams from two division which were previously determined. It's the first time that as much as eight players have been assigned to NFL teams this year.

There are some special rules regarding those players. For example, the Packers are now allowed to have 91 players on their offseason roster. If they end up waiving Odumegwu before the start of the season and he clears waivers the team can assign him to the practice squad using an IPP exemption that allows for an extra spot. If they end up doing that he may not be signed to any team’s active roster during the season though.
 

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Packers signed 1 of the 14 players invited to participate in the rookie minicamp, CB William Hooper from Northwestern State. Hooper was reportedly measured in at 5’10” and 180 pounds during his pro day. Hooper managed to record a 4.45-second 40-yard dash, despite posting a poor vertical jump (33”) for the position.

It also appears that an announced UDFA might not have been signed, since he wasn't on the listed rookie roster on Friday. That would be Baylor safety Christian Morgan.

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Just saw a report that came out that the Packers will not be bringing back Mercedes Lewis. I'd be really surprised if any team signs him. Moving full speed ahead on the young guys.

Yeah the longer this went the lower the chances of Big Dawg coming back seemed apparent. GB is fully willing to take the growing pains with this young corps for sure...long term if the majority click and grow it could be special.
 

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Just saw a report that came out that the Packers will not be bringing back Mercedes Lewis. I'd be really surprised if any team signs him. Moving full speed ahead on the young guys.
Why give snaps to a limited, aged vet? All of the young guns need to play and gel together. There's plenty of talent, they need to push-through the mistakes and become a highly-functioning offensive unit... together.
 
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Why give snaps to a limited, aged vet? All of the young guns need to play and gel together. There's plenty of talent, they need to push-through the mistakes and become a highly-functioning offensive unit... together.

Honestly, there is a valid argument on both sides of it. Personally if we see an injury happen and Lewis is still out there he better be called asap. His knowledge and blocking ability is something which is still elite IMO for a TE and would love Kraft and Musgrave to learn from that...if we aren't going to bring him back as a player and he is thinking retirement...I say ask him what it would take to come be a coach.
 

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I say ask him what it would take to come be a coach.
I would prefer that over him taking snaps and a roster spot away from the current group. 2023 is going to be a good year for mistakes and learning and the Packers currently have at least 4 young TE's that should be on the roster and see action.
 

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Honestly, there is a valid argument on both sides of it. Personally if we see an injury happen and Lewis is still out there he better be called asap. His knowledge and blocking ability is something which is still elite IMO for a TE and would love Kraft and Musgrave to learn from that...if we aren't going to bring him back as a player and he is thinking retirement...I say ask him what it would take to come be a coach.
I would take him as a coach. I'm ready to move on from him as a player. He brings nothing in terms of play making. I'm actually kind of tired of hearing about his blocking skills. I'm sure we could line up another offensive lineman and would do just as much. We need someone who is going to put fear into the defense. Lewis is not that guy. I would take him as a TE coach for his leadership.
 

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Honestly, there is a valid argument on both sides of it. Personally if we see an injury happen and Lewis is still out there he better be called asap. His knowledge and blocking ability is something which is still elite IMO for a TE and would love Kraft and Musgrave to learn from that...if we aren't going to bring him back as a player and he is thinking retirement...I say ask him what it would take to come be a coach.
2022 Marcedes Lewis played 451 (41% of all snaps) offensive snaps (30/game), was targeted 7 times, had 6 receptions and 2 TD's. That means he blocked 444 snaps out of 451!! Part of the offensive "limitations" the last few years is that while trying to achieve confusion due to personnel and/or pre-snap motion the offense was extremely predictable.

IF Lewis was in the game more than likely it was a run play. With 2 (or more) TE's on the roster who can block AND catch hopefully MLF can be more versatile with formations and/or play-calling regardless of who's on the field. Will they block as well as Lewis? No, but the offense will most likely be A LOT less predictable.
 

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What's cool is the pressure is off this year. We can literally just let the games unfold and not have the expectation that this is a win-now team. If Jordan comes out and blows the doors off of the NFC then awesome, but if he struggles I'm cool with that too as long as he's showing growth and potential.
I'm pretty sure we'll see moments where we all go, wth were you thinking? He needs playing time. He's not going to look like a polished 10 year veteran and it's completely unrealistic to expect it. I do look forward to seeing some of the more ridiculous in game comments though. Will certainly be comical at times when the beer hits the keyboard.
 

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I'm pretty sure we'll see moments where we all go, wth were you thinking? He needs playing time. He's not going to look like a polished 10 year veteran and it's completely unrealistic to expect it. I do look forward to seeing some of the more ridiculous in game comments though. Will certainly be comical at times when the beer hits the keyboard.
Agree. Anyone that has already made plans to go to Vegas next Feb. to watch The Packers play, are going to be very disappointed. Anyone that wants Gute and MLF fired after 5 games, as well try to declare Love a bust, should probably follow another team in 2023.

This is a team that is coming off an 8-9 season. This is a team that no longer has Aaron Rodgers and a few other starters from last year. I expect to see development from the rookies, as well as other younger players, but I don't expect to see a lot of wins.
 

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Agree. Anyone that has already made plans to go to Vegas next Feb. to watch The Packers play, are going to be very disappointed. Anyone that wants Gute and MLF fired after 5 games, as well try to declare Love a bust, should probably follow another team in 2023.

This is a team that is coming off an 8-9 season. This is a team that no longer has Aaron Rodgers and a few other starters from last year. I expect to see development from the rookies, as well as other younger players, but I don't expect to see a lot of wins.
Whereas I don't think we will see a SB birth, I am expecting more than 8 wins. Although Rodgers has more experience, I expect Love to use more of the field, look for 1st downs instead of TDs, and use his legs more effectively. He might not have as many passing yards as Rodgers, but overall the offense will do as well, or better, than last season.
 

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2022 Marcedes Lewis played 451 (41% of all snaps) offensive snaps (30/game), was targeted 7 times, had 6 receptions and 2 TD's. That means he blocked 444 snaps out of 451!! Part of the offensive "limitations" the last few years is that while trying to achieve confusion due to personnel and/or pre-snap motion the offense was extremely predictable.

IF Lewis was in the game more than likely it was a run play. With 2 (or more) TE's on the roster who can block AND catch hopefully MLF can be more versatile with formations and/or play-calling regardless of who's on the field. Will they block as well as Lewis? No, but the offense will most likely be A LOT less predictable.
While I do not disagree with your premise I do disagree on how you used the numbers. Are you trying to tell us Lewis never went out for a pass that was either incomplete, caught by someone else, resulted in a sack or a QB run? Not that I think it will alter the % very much IMO you should use # of routes run instead of targets.
 
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Why give snaps to a limited, aged vet? All of the young guns need to play and gel together. There's plenty of talent, they need to push-through the mistakes and become a highly-functioning offensive unit... together.
Yeah. He’s more a player that can fit into a Win now environment due to his blocking skills and bountiful experience. I could see another team offering him a 1yr deal or signing in him on short notice to replace an injured TE. I love what Big Dog brought, but his best days as any type of receiver are long gone. He is amazing in reliability for another team. Wish him the best.
 
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I would take him as a coach. I'm ready to move on from him as a player. He brings nothing in terms of play making. I'm actually kind of tired of hearing about his blocking skills. I'm sure we could line up another offensive lineman and would do just as much. We need someone who is going to put fear into the defense. Lewis is not that guy. I would take him as a TE coach for his leadership.

Sorry but no, just lining up another offensive lineman would not in anyway be the same. Big Dawg knows every in and out of MLF system and TE playcalls and tasks. You can be ready to move on but also admit Lewis is vastly more than just an additional lineman lining up wider than a tackle.
 
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2022 Marcedes Lewis played 451 (41% of all snaps) offensive snaps (30/game), was targeted 7 times, had 6 receptions and 2 TD's. That means he blocked 444 snaps out of 451!! Part of the offensive "limitations" the last few years is that while trying to achieve confusion due to personnel and/or pre-snap motion the offense was extremely predictable.

IF Lewis was in the game more than likely it was a run play. With 2 (or more) TE's on the roster who can block AND catch hopefully MLF can be more versatile with formations and/or play-calling regardless of who's on the field. Will they block as well as Lewis? No, but the offense will most likely be A LOT less predictable.

Um....you don't block every possession you don't get a pass thrown to you...if that is the case this dude's efficiency per route ran is INSANE NEXT LEVEL.
 

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It sounds like some of his teammates want him back in GB. Rasul Douglas and Keisean Nixon campaigning on Social Media for it.

 
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Whereas I don't think we will see a SB birth, I am expecting more than 8 wins. Although Rodgers has more experience, I expect Love to use more of the field, look for 1st downs instead of TDs, and use his legs more effectively. He might not have as many passing yards as Rodgers, but overall the offense will do as well, or better, than last season.
We still are not far removed from having a playoff caliber team. Even Rodgers couldn’t get there last season and he flopped at home against a middling Defense.

We’re probably a little young overall too expect a deep playoff run, but we’re absolutely talented enough to sniff the postseason. We don’t need HOF anymore. We need Love to grade out at C+ execution or better in his first starting season and we need our ST and Defense to make a slight improvement. I would’ve be shocked at all if Jordan Love n Co surpassed Aaron Rodgers 6-10 start.
 

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While I do not disagree with your premise I do disagree on how you used the numbers. Are you trying to tell us Lewis never went out for a pass that was either incomplete, caught by someone else, resulted in a sack or a QB run? Not that I think it will alter the % very much IMO you should use # of routes run instead of targets.
After significant digging I did find # routes run for 2022... totaling 58. 12.8% of the snaps he played he went out for a pass. I don't think that matters at all to bolster your opinion of Lewis' receiving contributions. Lewis was in the game as a run-blocker 393 snaps of his 451 (87.2%)!! My point still holds that when Lewis was in the game the defense knew chances were pretty high that it was a running play. MLF/AR's offense was predictable... exact opposite of their desire.
 
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It sounds like some of his teammates want him back in GB. Rasul Douglas and Keisean Nixon campaigning on Social Media for it.

Then offer him a Job as our TE’s Coach (or shared TE coach) etc. I think his experience is and leadership is a very compelling argument to keep him in some capacity.
 

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