Three Positions Gute Has To Target EARLY in 2025 Draft

[tynimiller]

Serial underachievement is also a pattern you know...I'm not naive. I know its not easy.
But that's the very nature of competitive sport! Nobody gives you anything..
One cannot persist with the rinse and repeat and then expect to be be commended for standing still..

The only thing Gute hasn’t hit massively well is high draft picks and in truth injury has taken a lot of his top picks which no one can predict….but timing in FA and moving on from guys has been dynamite decision making. If he has an offseason in FA like he did last time he had some money and last year (McKinney and Jacobs) plus doubles up with a draft success like last year he’s done about all you can ask from a GM to do in their time.

You do realize truths can exist and still demand better, that’s precisely how Gute feels no doubt and 31 other GMs today (including Philly).

 

[Magooch]

It is kind of wild though when you break some of it down.
Like consider their cap distribution. Look at the Eagles offense...
Jalen Hurts is paid like a top 10 QB.
Saquon is the 3rd-highest paid RB in the league, and I believe 2nd most guaranteed money.
AJ Brown is the 3rd-highest paid WR, and Devonta Smith is just outside the top 10, I think he is #11.
Mailata #5 LT
D i ckerson #1 LG
Johnson #4 RT

But on the other side of the ball they have the 8th LEAST cap space going to their defense. And yet I think most everyone would agree...it was largely their defense that won them the title.

And look at a lot of the key contributors over there.
Leading tackler was Zack Baun, he has been HUGE for them. But was a completely unheralded FA signing, like 3m for the year. Zero fanfare and has been absolutely pivotal.
Nakobe Dean, 24. Reed Blankenship, 25 (UFA) DeJean, 21. Quinyon Mitchell, 23. Jalen Carter, 23. Nolan Smith, 23. Jordan Davis, 24. Gardner-Johnson, FA.
Just about every key contributor was either a "hit" on a draft pick or a "value" FA signing, with few exceptions... That's not to say it's just that they were lucky but I would say to have that kind of sustained "hit rate" over time is also exceedingly unlikely. Either that, or the Eagles scouting department is truly the best ever, lol...

 

[tynimiller]

It is kind of wild though when you break some of it down.
Like consider their cap distribution. Look at the Eagles offense...
Jalen Hurts is paid like a top 10 QB.
Saquon is the 3rd-highest paid RB in the league, and I believe 2nd most guaranteed money.
AJ Brown is the 3rd-highest paid WR, and Devonta Smith is just outside the top 10, I think he is #11.
Mailata #5 LT
D i ckerson #1 LG
Johnson #4 RT

But on the other side of the ball they have the 8th LEAST cap space going to their defense. And yet I think most everyone would agree...it was largely their defense that won them the title.

And look at a lot of the key contributors over there.
Leading tackler was Zack Baun, he has been HUGE for them. But was a completely unheralded FA signing, like 3m for the year. Zero fanfare and has been absolutely pivotal.
Nakobe Dean, 24. Reed Blankenship, 25 (UFA) DeJean, 21. Quinyon Mitchell, 23. Jalen Carter, 23. Nolan Smith, 23. Jordan Davis, 24. Gardner-Johnson, FA.
Just about every key contributor was either a "hit" on a draft pick or a "value" FA signing, with few exceptions... That's not to say it's just that they were lucky but I would say to have that kind of sustained "hit rate" over time is also exceedingly unlikely. Either that, or the Eagles scouting department is truly the best ever, lol...

The lower tier FA signings are insane as well...I'm telling you, they hit on EVERY decision.

 

[txj]

It is kind of wild though when you break some of it down.
Like consider their cap distribution. Look at the Eagles offense...
Jalen Hurts is paid like a top 10 QB.
Saquon is the 3rd-highest paid RB in the league, and I believe 2nd most guaranteed money.
AJ Brown is the 3rd-highest paid WR, and Devonta Smith is just outside the top 10, I think he is #11.
Mailata #5 LT
D i ckerson #1 LG
Johnson #4 RT

But on the other side of the ball they have the 8th LEAST cap space going to their defense. And yet I think most everyone would agree...it was largely their defense that won them the title.

And look at a lot of the key contributors over there.
Leading tackler was Zack Baun, he has been HUGE for them. But was a completely unheralded FA signing, like 3m for the year. Zero fanfare and has been absolutely pivotal.
Nakobe Dean, 24. Reed Blankenship, 25 (UFA) DeJean, 21. Quinyon Mitchell, 23. Jalen Carter, 23. Nolan Smith, 23. Jordan Davis, 24. Gardner-Johnson, FA.
Just about every key contributor was either a "hit" on a draft pick or a "value" FA signing, with few exceptions... That's not to say it's just that they were lucky but I would say to have that kind of sustained "hit rate" over time is also exceedingly unlikely. Either that, or the Eagles scouting department is truly the best ever, lol...

This is why I'm not buying the "lucky hit" description. They've done it now over 4 seasons. If its luck then Gute is unlucky. And that is a damning verdict!

 

[tynimiller]

This is why I'm not buying the "lucky hit" description. They've done it now over 4 seasons. If its luck then Gute is unlucky. And that is a damning verdict!

LOL....yet for more than 60 years teams have not somehow hit as much as Howie did in the four year stretch...and to be fair the FA signings many of us highlighted were just this past year. Over the four year stretch they had a few misses on some lower tier FAs, but still the short stretch of time highlighted intensifies how much of a tear Howie and the Eagles have been on because it just hasn't happened much at all in my lifetime and before.

 

[txj]

LOL....yet for more than 60 years teams have not somehow hit as much as Howie did in the four year stretch...and to be fair the FA signings many of us highlighted were just this past year. Over the four year stretch they had a few misses on some lower tier FAs, but still the short stretch of time highlighted intensifies how much of a tear Howie and the Eagles have been on because it just hasn't happened much at all in my lifetime and before.

Which means he's got it right where others have failed. And he has SB appearances to show for it.
What I find hilarious about your position is the automatic assumption that it is mere luck, simply because, as you claim, its not been done before...

 

[tynimiller]

Which means he's got it right where others have failed. And he has SB appearances to show for it.
What I find hilarious about your position is the automatic assumption that it is mere luck, simply because, as you claim, its not been done before...

LOL nope negative. I've outlined how it all cannot be luck. You simply choose not to see it.

You stated due to it being constant for four years it isn't luck...so which is it...what he's done in four years (which reminder he's not been president forever, but been around since 2000 in some capacity) is a statistical anomaly and any statistical analyst will expect a return to more normal range of results occurs.

 

[txj]

LOL nope negative. I've outlined how it all cannot be luck. You simply choose not to see it.

You stated due to it being constant for four years it isn't luck...so which is it...what he's done in four years (which reminder he's not been president forever, but been around since 2000 in some capacity) is a statistical anomaly and any statistical analyst will expect a return to more normal range of results occurs.

LOL. A statistical anomaly, otherwise called luck!!!

 

[tynimiller]

As far as the draft, the irony is Howie has done a LOT of what Gute does...they both are addicted to Georgia defensive athletic freaks... @txj this and Gute's high success rate in FA is actually two of the biggest reasons I really think the next two/three seasons might be special.

Green Bay - Stokes, Walker, Wyatt, Bullard all top 60 picks from Georgia last four years.
Philly - Jordan Davis, Jalen Carter, Nolan Smith (Nolan is the only guy Gute could have drafted and didn't)

Both have strong propensity to draft OL early within the first two rounds of the draft:

Green Bay - Myers, Morgan (1 start rookie year)
Philly - ****erson, Jurgens (no starts rookie year)

Both believe in trenches are focus 5th round one...last four years:
GB - 7 guys drafted one of which is a starting LT and another is Karl Brooks, and also TJ Slaton who tore it up this season.
PHI - 7 guys drafted one of which is Tuipulotu

 

[tynimiller]

LOL. A statistical anomaly, otherwise called luck!!!

Negative, every statistical anomaly or happenings is the result of a lot of ingredients for lack of a better term.