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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 785332"><p>That would be circumstantial.</p><p></p><p>First, Rodgers would need to be injured and Kizer plays very well. Then if somebody wanted him to at least compete for a starting job you might get something of value in trade. Otherwise there is no evidence of rehabilitation and not much trade value. Actually, it's "habilitation" since he hasn't shown anything yet to put the "re" in front of that word. If somebody needed a #2 deperately at some point without that habilitation, what would they offer? I don't get all that jazzed up by a 6th. round pick such as they got for Hundley or the 5th. round pick Oakland traded for McCarron.</p><p></p><p>Second, baring that habilitation, Boyle would need to progress to the point where there is comfort in him being the #2, or they draft a QB with some bona fides, to warrant that paltry pick in trade.</p><p></p><p>But the prevailing question here is <strong>why active roster and not PS for Boyle</strong>. I explained the concept, but perhaps some relevant examples would help. I'm sure there are more examples than the ones that follow, but I happen to be familiar with these living in the Buffalo region with the sports page and nightly news headlines hard to miss.</p><p></p><p>The Bills started camp with McCarron penciled in as the starter with Josh Allen the franchise-in-waiting who, as we well know, may or may not pan out. Nathan Peterman was the presumed #3. As we might recall, Peterman set an NFL record last season throwing 5 interceptions in one half. It happened to be one of the handful of Bills games I watched last season. It was the ugliest QB performance I have ever seen. Flash foward. McCarron injures his collarbone, Peterman plays well in preseason and gets the start week 1, Allen is still in waiting, <strong>and there is no #3 on the roster or PS </strong>according to the team's web site roster.</p><p></p><p>Oakland had E.J. Manual as their #2, always a dreadful QB and not habilitated in Oakland. He and Connor Cook, the #3, both got cut at the 11th. hour as they picked up McCarron for that 5th. round pick while assuming a cheap $900,000 cap number this season which goes to $5 mil next season. The Bills thought enough of McCarron to not consider him the #2 or #3 while taking a dead cap hit of $2 mil in exchange for that pick. As of this moment, as with the Bills, the Raiders web site shows <strong>no #3 on the roster or PS.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>Now, if you were Boyle and you were cut, thinking you'd want to move up from a PS to a #2 spot and a real paycheck in the next year or two, would the Packers practice squad be your first choice, playing behind Rodgers and then Kizer with 3 years left on a cheap rookie deal?</p><p></p><p>Or would you prefer to go to Buffalo if you got a PS offer from them, playing behind the uncertain Peterman and unproven Allen? Or how about Oakland? McCarron looked like a cheap desperation move to start with and he will not be collecting that $5 million paycheck next season.</p><p></p><p>You would expect Buffalo and Oakland are scrounding around right now for that cheap 3rd. QB with some glimmer of potential for their PS.</p><p></p><p>There are probably other examples, but the key point that is overlooked in the "put Boyle on the PS" argument is that the Packers might not have been his first PS choice given options.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 785332"] That would be circumstantial. First, Rodgers would need to be injured and Kizer plays very well. Then if somebody wanted him to at least compete for a starting job you might get something of value in trade. Otherwise there is no evidence of rehabilitation and not much trade value. Actually, it's "habilitation" since he hasn't shown anything yet to put the "re" in front of that word. If somebody needed a #2 deperately at some point without that habilitation, what would they offer? I don't get all that jazzed up by a 6th. round pick such as they got for Hundley or the 5th. round pick Oakland traded for McCarron. Second, baring that habilitation, Boyle would need to progress to the point where there is comfort in him being the #2, or they draft a QB with some bona fides, to warrant that paltry pick in trade. But the prevailing question here is [B]why active roster and not PS for Boyle[/B]. I explained the concept, but perhaps some relevant examples would help. I'm sure there are more examples than the ones that follow, but I happen to be familiar with these living in the Buffalo region with the sports page and nightly news headlines hard to miss. The Bills started camp with McCarron penciled in as the starter with Josh Allen the franchise-in-waiting who, as we well know, may or may not pan out. Nathan Peterman was the presumed #3. As we might recall, Peterman set an NFL record last season throwing 5 interceptions in one half. It happened to be one of the handful of Bills games I watched last season. It was the ugliest QB performance I have ever seen. Flash foward. McCarron injures his collarbone, Peterman plays well in preseason and gets the start week 1, Allen is still in waiting, [B]and there is no #3 on the roster or PS [/B]according to the team's web site roster. Oakland had E.J. Manual as their #2, always a dreadful QB and not habilitated in Oakland. He and Connor Cook, the #3, both got cut at the 11th. hour as they picked up McCarron for that 5th. round pick while assuming a cheap $900,000 cap number this season which goes to $5 mil next season. The Bills thought enough of McCarron to not consider him the #2 or #3 while taking a dead cap hit of $2 mil in exchange for that pick. As of this moment, as with the Bills, the Raiders web site shows [B]no #3 on the roster or PS. [/B] Now, if you were Boyle and you were cut, thinking you'd want to move up from a PS to a #2 spot and a real paycheck in the next year or two, would the Packers practice squad be your first choice, playing behind Rodgers and then Kizer with 3 years left on a cheap rookie deal? Or would you prefer to go to Buffalo if you got a PS offer from them, playing behind the uncertain Peterman and unproven Allen? Or how about Oakland? McCarron looked like a cheap desperation move to start with and he will not be collecting that $5 million paycheck next season. You would expect Buffalo and Oakland are scrounding around right now for that cheap 3rd. QB with some glimmer of potential for their PS. There are probably other examples, but the key point that is overlooked in the "put Boyle on the PS" argument is that the Packers might not have been his first PS choice given options. [/QUOTE]
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