The Aaron Rodgers performance thread

[rmontro]

i have no idea what a QBR is or if 40 is good or bad, I don't really care. I've watched enough football games to know when our line is blocking well and when they aren't and when our QB is throwing the ball well or isn't. I also know how many other QB's in the league I'd take over the one we have right now after watching them. It's a very small list.

That's a valid statement, but the main point of that Twitter thread was that Rodgers holds onto the ball too long. Which he often does. You can recognize Rodgers greatness while still hoping he gets better at a few things. Although by this point, this seems to be just be one of those take the bad along with the good type of things.

 

[GreenNGold_81]

That's a valid statement, but the main point of that Twitter thread was that Rodgers holds onto the ball too long. Which he often does. You can recognize Rodgers greatness while still hoping he gets better at a few things. Although by this point, this seems to be just be one of those take the bad along with the good type of things.

I agree, Rodgers won't change his stripes. He is likely well aware that he should be getting the ball out quicker. This is the thing we will chat about when he's retired, much like how people bring up Favre's interception record.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

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That numbers don't take wide receiver separation into account though.

 

[gbgary]

That numbers don't take wide receiver separation into account though.

i think next gen stats says our wr's have one of the highest separation ratings in the league.

 

[gbgary]

I agree, Rodgers won't change his stripes. He is likely well aware that he should be getting the ball out quicker. This is the thing we will chat about when he's retired, much like how people bring up Favre's interception record.

yup. he's made that abundantly clear. only an epiphany will change it.

 

[gbgary]

i have no idea what a QBR is or if 40 is good or bad, I don't really care. I've watched enough football games to know when our line is blocking well and when they aren't and when our QB is throwing the ball well or isn't. I also know how many other QB's in the league I'd take over the one we have right now after watching them. It's a very small list.

i know you don't care but...it's espn's qb rating system with 100 being perfect. it's quoted by PFF and others in their stat logs.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2019/passing.htm

 

[PackAttack12]

lol

 

[OldSchool101]

I think next gen stats says our wr's have one of the highest separation ratings in the league.

Separation from the roster maybe

 

[Mondio]

Next gen stats, developed for fantasy and gamblers to make them feel like the actually know something about the game.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

i think next gen stats says our wr's have one of the highest separation ratings in the league.

Next Gen Stats measures the separation of a receiver when being targeted. That number doesn't provide any information on receivers being open consistently.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

i think next gen stats says our wr's have one of the highest separation ratings in the league.

Next Gen Stats measures the separation of a receiver when being targeted. That number doesn't provide any information on receivers being open consistently.

So if I interrupt both posts correctly, all this means is that Rodgers, this season, is one of best QB's for targeting a receiver who has created the highest separation.

 

[PackAttack12]

So if I interrupt both posts correctly, all this means is that Rodgers, this season, is one of best QB's for targeting a receiver who has created the highest separation.

So did Gary intend to make a point, which ultimately contradicts his big picture point? ​

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

So did Gary intend to make a point, which ultimately contradicts his big picture point? ​

Who am I to say.

I can't even spell "interpret" yet alone figure out what some people are trying to say about Rodgers half the time. Feels like lots of people like to hedge their points of views, setting themselves up to say "See I told you so" or "Well, it could have gone that way".

 

[rmontro]

So if I interrupt both posts correctly, all this means is that Rodgers, this season, is one of best QB's for targeting a receiver who has created the highest separation.

OR you could look at it this way: Rodgers won't throw it to a receiver unless he has created a large separation. Which you could say is good, because that is why he doesn't throw many interceptions . Or he is overly cautious, depending on what tale you are trying to spin.

 

[gbgary]

Next Gen Stats measures the separation of a receiver when being targeted. That number doesn't provide any information on receivers being open consistently.

i don't how they measure it, i'm not even 100% sure that they're the ones who put that out there (but i think that's who it was credited too). but we do know guys are getting open initially but aren't being immediately thrown to. the scramble drill soon follows when the o-line can't hold their blocks for 4+ seconds.

 

[rmontro]

but we do know guys are getting open initially but aren't being immediately thrown to. the scramble drill soon follows when the o-line can't hold their blocks for 4+ seconds.

So in these situations (and I assume we've all seen them, although I won't guess how often they occur), either Rodgers is not making his reads fast enough, is not trusting the receiver, or simply is choosing not to throw the ball whatever reason. That reason would probably be that he is waiting for a bigger play to develop.

I'd like to see Rogers play for Belichick, I bet he'd drive him crazy

 

[Deleted member 6794]

OR you could look at it this way: Rodgers won't throw it to a receiver unless he has created a large separation. Which you could say is good, because that is why he doesn't throw many interceptions . Or he is overly cautious, depending on what tale you are trying to spin.

According to Next Gen Stats Rodgers is one of the least aggressive QBs in the league. He's on par with Mahomes, Brees and Cousins for example though.

They track aggressiveness by the amount of passing attempts a quarterback makes that are into tight coverage, where there is a defender within 1 yard or less of the receiver at the time of completion or incompletion.

but we do know guys are getting open initially but aren't being immediately thrown to. the scramble drill soon follows when the o-line can't hold their blocks for 4+ seconds.

Rodgers, like every other QB in the league, has missed open receivers. We have no idea how often it happens compared to others though.

 

[AKCheese]

Time for Rodgers to start playing like he BELONGS in the Pro Bowl. I’d much rather have a QB who hits his stride now, than one that slumps this time of year. Giddyup!!

 

[pacmaniac]

Rodgers could get away with poor mechanics when he was younger, but as he gets older he can't get away with it as often.

 

[gbgary]

Rodgers could get away with poor mechanics when he was younger, but as he gets older he can't get away with it as often.

yup! get that straightened out and he very well could play into his 40's. brees 2.0

 

[pacmaniac]

yup! get that straightened out and he very well could play into his 40's. brees 2.0

Not only that, but he doesn't have the arm strength he used to. Remember the throw in the Super Bowl from the 21 yard line to Jennings at the goal line. That was a laser that just got by the defender. Tonight, midway thru the 2nd quarter, on 3rd and 5, he threw a very ugly ball into traffic in the end zone. 8 years ago, that's a TD. Today, it's easily batted away by the Vikings.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

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[Pokerbrat2000]

Sneak Peak/listen of Danica interviewing #12 for her Podcast.

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[PackinMSP]

Aaron's accuracy just isn't godly in general as it used to be

The pass to Davante in the endzone was BEHIND Davante too as an example

 

[rmontro]

Aaron's accuracy just isn't godly in general as it used to be

Maybe it's related to running the ball more and passing less? Makes it harder for him to get into a rhythm? Or maybe it's just age + injuries.