The Aaron Rodgers performance thread

[mongoosev]

I'll admit that some of what Rodgers said on the Pat McAfee show was kind of all over the place. I think he made some very solid points, but I also feel like he overplayed his hand and threw too much at the wall hoping that it would stick.

But at the end of the day, he said he was immunized, not vaccinated. If any of those reporters in that room were a little better at their jobs, that comment would've never been allowed to slide without a follow up.

He and the Packers are saying that he followed all protocols (except in the media room). We'll see if that holds up in the coming days. If that's the case, no harm there.

So he made a decision about his body. And just because it's unpopular or not the perceived conventional wisdom, he's getting put through the ringer. And before someone says he lied or he misled, I'm sorry but that just doesn't hold weight with me. The Packers knew, his teammates knew, the league knew. And Rodgers put it all on a silver platter for a follow up, but all of the knuckleheads in the Packers media didn't follow up and now they are pis*y about it.

Here's a hint. If you would've done your job back in August, maybe you would've gotten your answer. but I have no issue with Rodgers not being exactly overly willing to divulge everything about his personal health decision when everyone who needed to know, knew.

The hysteria around this is truly flabbergasting to me.

Like Longtime said people have every right to be angry. And they can cry about someone's personal health or be angry because they misinterrupted the word "immunized" to think it meant vaccinated even though he wasn't required to take the shot. LOL

 

[JK64]

secondly, i had no idea it was that easy to get out of the army. i bet a lot of those who were drafted and maimed in viet nam would have loved to have known this back then

Likely would have been thrown in jail if refusing to take vaccines to get out.

 

[mongoosev]

I’ll take that a win…. sidestepping to a different argument does nothing to prove your point.

How is he "sidestepping" is it because you can't prove him wrong? Can you not prove that the word "immunized" means vaccinated or Rod himself said he was vaccinated? That is pretty much the basis that has brought this outrage by the media(and many of those who support the vaccine) in a frenzy because people thought he was vaccinated even though he wasn't required to be vaccinated. Or are you going to resort to claiming i'm "talking in circles" or you can't help me because I don't understand?

 

[mongoosev]

I doubt that …. because no one would have been taken by surprise.

You really think this mob mentality attacking those that didn't take this vaccine would be silent had he made it clear he didn't take the vaccine? Oh man...that is funny. People are already lambasting the guy's reason for not taking it.

 

[Dantés]

You really think this mob mentality attacking those that didn't take this vaccine would be silent had he made it clear he didn't take the vaccine? Oh man...that is funny. People are already lambasting the guy's reason for not taking it.

Virtually every big name athlete that does pressers and has declined it has had to answer questions about why.

 

[PackAttack12]

Virtually every big name athlete that does pressers and has declined it has had to answer questions about why.

Instead of leaving well enough alone and letting it be a personal decision.

It's all a part of the rouse.

 

[Mavster]

Qaron Rodgers

 

[OldSchool101]

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so then i can expect you to provide one?

Here’s one. At its peak, Polio infected 35,000 in the US over course of a year.

Thus far, at its peak, Covid infected 30,000,000 people (those that tested the number is much higher) in a year.

It’s like comparing the NFL stats of Aaron Rodgers with that of Jordan Love. It’s not even on the same planet.

 

[swhitset]

How is he "sidestepping" is it because you can't prove him wrong? Can you not prove that the word "immunized" means vaccinated or Rod himself said he was vaccinated? That is pretty much the basis that has brought this outrage by the media(and many of those who support the vaccine) in a frenzy because people thought he was vaccinated even though he wasn't required to be vaccinated. Or are you going to resort to claiming i'm "talking in circles" or you can't help me because I don't understand?

lol you keep stepping in it don’t you. It is sidestepping because he completely changed the subject. I’m sorry that you obviously aren’t able to keep up here, but just to help you along… he made a statement without any substantiation about the likelihood of dying from Polio vs. Dying from Covid. When he was asked for some proof to HIS claim… he literally told the rest of the forum that it was our job to check HIS claim and that he didn’t need provide anything himself. When I called him on that, he ignored it and started talking about a completely different subject… basically saying that other people make unsubstantiated claims so that somehow makes his about a different subject valid. I ask you … please think before you type a response to this….

 

[OldSchool101]

he said immunized. never said vax..immunized..but you knew this

If he would have said not vaccinated we probably wouldnt be here

Definition
Immunization: the act of making immune (especially by inoculation)

He also was specifically asked if he was “Vaccinated” and Rodgers said “yea” X


He then doubled down, going on to reference a separate category of players. He said “non-vaccinated” guys and essentially we shouldn’t judge “THEM”.
Thats called “ distancing” from a known group and by default sets him apart by self admission. XX

He lied and then in trying to cover his tracks moments later.. he destroyed the only credible opportunity of a viable defense with that statement.. That is namely… that he didn’t understand the question or namely that he could not discern between the definition of vaccination and immunization.

Unfortunately for him, it was reported that he attempted to circumvent the process early in the game using his method of immunization treatments. I heard reports that the NFL declined his request.

That’s strike X X X

 

[realitybytez]

Definition
Immunization: the act of making immune (especially by inoculation)

He also was specifically asked if he was “Vaccinated” and Rodgers said “yea”
He then doubled down, going on to put himself into a different category by distancing himself from those “non-vaccinated” players and how we essentially shouldn’t judge “THEM”. If he was in that group he would’ve said “US”.

god, what it must be like to have every single word you say taken apart and scrutinized by people who are just wishing for something negative to say about you. including people who are supposedly fans of the team that you've been propping up for the last decade.

 

[swhitset]

Can you name an athlete, celebrity, politician, anybody with some stature in the public eye that has come out and said they are not getting vaccinated and they were still supported by social media platforms, news outlets and fans?

I can’t.

I have zero doubt he would have been run through it the same or worse than guys like Cousins, or Cole Beasley.

Malik Taylor was positive was he vaccinated? Lancaster? Benkert? Adams?

Everyone is taking about Rodgers.

The only thing I think would have been different is they would have been bagging on him earlier in the year and the moment he tested positive all the stories would have intensified about selfishness and foolishness and hurting the team and everything else.

That is certainly likely, but I don’t think they would have been able to find as much as a foothold against him… now the narrative can be “he lied” which is much harder to defend. I don’t disagree that it would still have been a story, and the press would have made what they could of it, but I think he made it easier on them.

 

[Spanky]

I don’t give a crap about Rodgers’ vax status and I don’t know why anyone else does. Bunch of busy-bodies here.

 

[OldSchool101]

god, what it must be like to have every single word you say taken apart and scrutinized by people who are just wishing for something negative to say about you. including people who are supposedly fans of the team that you've been propping up for the last decade.

I was asked a question by Crow. LTF involved himself in that conversation.
It’s my right and my duty on a forum to answer a question directed at myself. when I answered it.. your only defense is a pity plea???

Im not the one being investigated and scrutinized. I’m not the one jeopardizing the health and reputation and production of this Company, it’s family and it’s fanbase.

Further, I’ve defended Rodgers on multiple occasions over many years. But if this was a murder trial? As his Defense attorney I’ve just watched him hack 3 people into pieces with an Axe. I have a duty to be honorable and fair and put my own interests aside. It’s despicable that we are put in a position of having to debate our team leaders’ unethical actions. Do you not see what it’s doing to the fabric of our team and it’s fans???
Is it too much to ask someone to step forward and tell the truth?

I think we need to move on from Aaron Rodgers once this season is over. Make a clean break from this drama.

 

[Mondio]

I don’t feel lied to, because I don’t think it’s any of my business in the first place. I completely believe we have body autonomy or we have nothing. Personal medical decisions should stay personal. Fans and media should respect that.

But the people who get paid for clicks will certainly make people feel like they should be mad because it will engage and enrage the masses and the clicks will multiply.

 

[mongoosev]

lol you keep stepping in it don’t you. It is sidestepping because he completely changed the subject. I’m sorry that you obviously aren’t able to keep up here, but just to help you along… he made a statement without any substantiation about the likelihood of dying from Polio vs. Dying from Covid. When he was asked for some proof to HIS claim… he literally told the rest of the forum that it was our job to check HIS claim and that he didn’t need provide anything himself. When I called him on that, he ignored it and started talking about a completely different subject… basically saying that other people make unsubstantiated claims so that somehow makes his about a different subject valid. I ask you … please think before you type a response to this….

Actually, he was replying to Oldschool about proving what Rodgers said about being vaccinated so I don't think he was "sidestepping" or deflecting what he was discussing with Longtime. Now in terms of calling him out about doing some research, yes, he clearly was, how do I say wasn't keen on that argument.

And by claiming I keep "stepping in it" I have yet to be proven wrong by you.

 

[pacmaniac]

Definition
Immunization: the act of making immune (especially by inoculation)

He also was specifically asked if he was “Vaccinated” and Rodgers said “yea” X


He then doubled down, going on to reference a separate category of players. He said “non-vaccinated” guys and essentially we shouldn’t judge “THEM”.
Thats called “ distancing” from a known group and by default sets him apart by self admission. XX

He lied and then in trying to cover his tracks moments later.. he destroyed the only credible opportunity of a viable defense with that statement.. That is namely… that he didn’t understand the question or namely that he could not discern between the definition of vaccination and immunization.

Unfortunately for him, it was reported that he attempted to circumvent the process early in the game using his method of immunization treatments. I heard reports that the NFL declined his request.

That’s strike X X X

Agree, he misled when he said "yeah". He should have said "No, but I'm immunized."

And then he egregiously lied to try to defend his decision to not get the vaccine by saying that everyone on the left said that "you're gonna die from the vaccine". Show me one person on the left, let alone everyone on the left, who said "you're gonna die from the vaccine".

 

[AGreen2AJones]

he said immunized. never said vax..immunized..but you knew this

If he would have said not vaccinated we probably wouldnt be here

Wrong. When Bob D asked him if he was vaccinated he said "Yeah. I'm immunized." He answered in the affirmative

 

[OldSchool101]

Actually, he was replying to Oldschool about proving what Rodgers said about being vaccinated so I don't think he was "sidestepping" or deflecting what he was discussing with Longtime. Now in terms of calling him out about doing some research, yes, he clearly was, how do I say wasn't keen on that argument.

And by claiming I keep "stepping in it" I have yet to be proven wrong by you.

I’ll just offer props to @mongoosev. He has been cordial and professional and has debated in a civil manner, even though we also disagree on several fronts.

We’re all trying to make sense of this Vaccine - No Vaccine stuff as it relates to Aaron Rodgers. None of us have all the answers and we’re all human.
Just for the record. I don’t hold grudges or animosity or any of that. I sleep good at night and I forgive those who offend me because boy do I need that in return as I mess things up constantly.

Y’all my Packer Brothers and Sisters and we will be watching this team LONG after Aaron Rodgers is long gone. My hope is we regain our footing somehow. I’ll be praying for Aaron he needs to get healthy and maybe grow up a little. I mean that respectfully because I’m old enough to be his dad. A young one albeit.

 

[AGreen2AJones]

Agree, he misled when he said "yeah". He should have said "No, but I'm immunized."

And then he egregiously lied to try to defend his decision to not get the vaccine by saying that everyone on the left said that "you're gonna die from the vaccine". Show me one person on the left, let alone everyone on the left, who said "you're gonna die from the vaccine".

Exactly

 

[AGreen2AJones]

I'll admit that some of what Rodgers said on the Pat McAfee show was kind of all over the place. I think he made some very solid points, but I also feel like he overplayed his hand and threw too much at the wall hoping that it would stick.

But at the end of the day, he said he was immunized, not vaccinated. If any of those reporters in that room were a little better at their jobs, that comment would've never been allowed to slide without a follow up.

He and the Packers are saying that he followed all protocols (except in the media room). We'll see if that holds up in the coming days. If that's the case, no harm there.

So he made a decision about his body. And just because it's unpopular or not the perceived conventional wisdom, he's getting put through the ringer. And before someone says he lied or he misled, I'm sorry but that just doesn't hold weight with me. The Packers knew, his teammates knew, the league knew. And Rodgers put it all on a silver platter for a follow up, but all of the knuckleheads in the Packers media didn't follow up and now they are pis*y about it.

Here's a hint. If you would've done your job back in August, maybe you would've gotten your answer. but I have no issue with Rodgers not being exactly overly willing to divulge everything about his personal health decision when everyone who needed to know, knew.

The hysteria around this is truly flabbergasting to me.

No. He answered affirmatively with "Yeah" when asked if he was vaccinated.

 

[AGreen2AJones]

Definition
Immunization: the act of making immune (especially by inoculation)

He also was specifically asked if he was “Vaccinated” and Rodgers said “yea” X


He then doubled down, going on to reference a separate category of players. He said “non-vaccinated” guys and essentially we shouldn’t judge “THEM”.
Thats called “ distancing” from a known group and by default sets him apart by self admission. XX

He lied and then in trying to cover his tracks moments later.. he destroyed the only credible opportunity of a viable defense with that statement.. That is namely… that he didn’t understand the question or namely that he could not discern between the definition of vaccination and immunization.

Unfortunately for him, it was reported that he attempted to circumvent the process early in the game using his method of immunization treatments. I heard reports that the NFL declined his request.

That’s strike X X X

Yup. All these anti-vaxers are lying. They are ignoring he said "yeah" to the specific question of being vaccinated.

 

[AGreen2AJones]

That is certainly likely, but I don’t think they would have been able to find as much as a foothold against him… now the narrative can be “he lied” which is much harder to defend. I don’t disagree that it would still have been a story, and the press would have made what they could of it, but I think he made it easier on them.

He did lie to a reporter. Not a crime or against any league rules, but pretty cowardly

 

[AGreen2AJones]

Some of you saying Rodgers never said or answered he was vaccinated even though he said "Yeah" to being asked so...probably are also like this:

Bob D: Are you drunk?
AR: Yeah. I'm inebriated.

He never said he was drunk!!!!

 

[longtimefan]

Wrong. When Bob D asked him if he was vaccinated he said "Yeah. I'm immunized." He answered in the affirmative

He said the words vax? We are splitting hairs here.

He implied he was vax, plain and simple and he is not.

If he was vax we wouldnt be having this convo..