The Aaron Rodgers performance thread

[PackAttack12]

Maybe the ignore button might be appropriate here ? You`ll never change my opinion and I know I`ll never change yours. I dont mean it in any aggressive way, but all we seem to do is knock horns ? I`ll leave it to you. No hard feelings on my part. unlike the other wayne kerr.

I don't run from anyone. From where I stand, this is a civil conversation. But it's one you don't seem to want to have once the conversation gets to a certain point.

I wouldn't dare put you on ignore. Too much respect!

 

[longtimefan]

We all thought this 6 months ago about AR based on what the media reported… BUT based on his performance so far this year with the worst team he’s played with in his career do you still hold this opinion?
Your answer doesn’t matter because you’re stupid.
Also don’t bother responding because your post suggests you are a moron and a can’t be ducked dealing with morons. HANL

Are you effing serious?

Wow..

Let me be clear..ME...Not shaggy..not poppa

if I ever see anyone do that to another your gone.

I will not tolerate this type of insult and will delete you..

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Are you effing serious?

Wow..

Let me be clear..ME...Not shaggy..not poppa

if I ever see anyone do that to another your gone.

I will not tolerate this type of insult and will delete you..

Missed that post or I might of gave him an earful too. Glad to see your guns blazed him off the site!

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[swhitset]

Missed that post or I might of gave him an earful too. Glad to see your guns blazed him off the site!

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I didn’t miss it… but I was amused by how totally wrong it was. I know Buggy can handle it because he is none of those things. I decided anything I said in response would just validate a ridiculous person.

 

[Schultz]

Yeah how can he dare say this is the worst team Rodgers has played with in his career.

 

[gbgary]

another disjointed game from him. not great but not bad. the long ball has abandoned him. he's 31st in qb ratings for throws of 20 yards or longer. the plays with empty/spread (the old offense he insists on keeping parts of even though last year running MLF's O got him an MVP) are the ones that typically go wrong...no td's and 2 picks. the team really moves when he adheres to the new offense. i guess this will continue to be a replay of 2019 until someone gets tired of it.

 

[OldSchool101]

I don't run from anyone. From where I stand, this is a civil conversation. But it's one you don't seem to want to have once the conversation gets to a certain point.

I wouldn't dare put you on ignore. Too much respect!

I put him in on ignore for you. I mean I put him on ignore for me for you. I mean I put him on ignore for me for what he did to you to you for me to put him on ignore. Just ignore me.. I’m not putting him on ignore for you or me or even for him for that matter, I’m just tired.. and I start doing this when I’m tired.. and it’s not just.. what I’m doing..
I’d ignore myself if they let me.
I’ve already reported myself too so don’t even try it!

I’m going to bed now..

good night to all and to all a good night

 

[Krabs]

he's 31st in qb ratings for throws of 20 yards or longer.

I don't disagree that he has missed some deep throws. Also, I'm not trying to be a big defender of his play. I too think it has fallen off. In the same respect, I think this stat is a little skewed. It does tell a story. Don't get me wrong. One thing to note is lack of talent at the WR position to throw the deep ball. Adams can be that guy at times. We have seen that. With MVS out though, he doesn't have that deep threat to stretch the field. 31st still does tell one something.

 

[Pkrjones]

AR's deep ball inaccuracy in '21 isn't anything new. Below is a 2018 article & videos lamenting the same thing. AR is either going to hit the receiver in stride for a "dagger play" OR overthrow him almost always avoiding an under throw pick. In '21 he's overthrown MVS, Tonyan, Lazard, Adams and possibly even Cobb (memory is going). If nothing else taking a shot here & there loosens-up the D... but a reception accomplishes the same thing AND helps put points on the board.

Game Changing Play of the Week: Aaron Rodgers Misses Wide Open Receivers on Back to Back Plays

Two more inaccurate throws by Aaron Rodgers halts the momentum earned by a defensive fumble recovery.

cheeseheadtv.com

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

See my reply on the new thread. He doesn`t need to make things happen. 15 to 20 yards is enough.

 

[tynimiller]

The deep ball thing is getting blown out of proportion...same as MVS deep ball catch percentage was by many. Deep balls by nature are not the easiest to complete - and is why deep threat receivers rarely put up a season above like 65% catch percentage, many are high 50% - I've shared historical posts about this many times.

Aaron's missed a few for sure, some were crazy bad misses - and he has hit a few, I see nothing wrong.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

the plays with empty/spread (the old offense he insists on keeping parts of even though last year running MLF's O got him an MVP) are the ones that typically go wrong...no td's and 2 picks.

You have to wonder how much MLF had to compromise on calls and the playbook this season due to Aaron's state of mind coming into it. I am sure that there are times where MLF has to walk on eggshells and bite his tongue, not wanting to stir that pot again. Yes the Packers are 5-1 and the OL has been a patchwork, but there still is some dysfunction going on with the offense.

 

[OldSchool101]

You have to wonder how much MLF had to compromise on calls and the playbook this season due to Aaron's state of mind coming into it. I am sure that there are times where MLF has to walk on eggshells and bite his tongue, not wanting to stir that pot again. Yes the Packers are 5-1 and the OL has been a patchwork, but there still is some dysfunction going on with the offense.

Absolutely. We were fortunate that our opponents have also been somewhat disfunctional. It’s early and also seems like everyone has had early season injury rashes. I’m not making excuses, more just stating a general observation.

The aforementioned has been a blessing. With a very inexperienced OL as a whole, we needed this start. Each week exposes our errors and limitations (in a good sense) and that allows the Offense to put “fixes” in place. Aaron has done good overall when considering his protection is not at the level we’ve come to expect. Aaron had taken what the Defenses give him and that’s largely by design of MLF. I don’t want Aaron Rodgers holding the ball unnecessarily, I’d rather he win games getting the ball out quick and staying in upright fashion. We don’t need style points (as the media implies) We need Wins.

In a sense and while we get this O group acclimated, I personally like exploring those long range weapons only when absolutely needed. Let’s catch some teams off guard down the stretch by surprising them with longer throws.

 

[mongoosev]

I don't disagree that he has missed some deep throws. Also, I'm not trying to be a big defender of his play. I too think it has fallen off. In the same respect, I think this stat is a little skewed. It does tell a story. Don't get me wrong. One thing to note is lack of talent at the WR position to throw the deep ball. Adams can be that guy at times. We have seen that. With MVS out though, he doesn't have that deep threat to stretch the field. 31st still does tell one something.

I agree that his target selection is very limited but a talented QB can put the ball in any PROs hand that should be able to catch a ball -- after all, they are in the PROs because of their TALENT. If they can't execute a fundamental long pass play then they shouldn't be in the league. What differentiates the best from the best is making those unbelievable catches that MOST WRs only dream of completing at ANY route.

Then again the long ball is a tricky play since the WR does need speed.
Sadly we couldn't keep Janis, Abby, and Davis just for those plays. Btw-----Joke

 

[gopkrs]

I agree that his target selection is very limited but a talented QB can put the ball in any PROs hand that should be able to catch a ball -- after all, they are in the PROs because of their TALENT. If they can't execute a fundamental long pass play then they shouldn't be in the league. What differentiates the best from the best is making those unbelievable catches that MOST WRs only dream of completing at ANY route.

Then again the long ball is a tricky play since the WR does need speed.
Sadly we couldn't keep Janis, Abby, and Davis just for those plays. Btw-----Joke

Well, everyone drops a ball now and then and the deep balls are more difficult to catch a lot of times.

 

[mongoosev]

Well, everyone drops a ball now and then and the deep balls are more difficult to catch a lot of times.

Shut up! Why you gotta mess up my game? Just playin'! It's ironic though...that is what makes PRO sports interesting. You know they are PROs but will make mistakes. Hah

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Because Capt, and let ME be abundantly clear, I admire and admired those two players for their abilities as football players. The legal issues do not affect my team the Packers. Rodgers behaviour affects my team, and that is what I dislike, because it affects the team I support. I DO NOT and wouldn`t say he is not a talented QB, I just think I don`t like his character traits. I respect other peoples opinions, but I dont share them.

In my opinion it's a strange approach to admire Moss and Sherman for their performance on the field while completely ignoring Rodgers has been the most efficient quarterback of all time for most of his career.

Idk about that but if he did...not before he put up the greatest season by a wr in league history

Based on passer rating Rodgers has put together the two best seasons by a QB ever. Yet somehow a lot of Packers fans seem to ignore that completely.

From here a lot of Rodgers' angst should be aimed at TT and not Gute. It was TT who let Cobb, Jordy and Woodson, to name a few, go. I can't imagine Ted signing the FAs Gute has the past couple of years.

Thompson's decision to move on from the players mentioned was the correct one. It was time.

You have to wonder how much MLF had to compromise on calls and the playbook this season due to Aaron's state of mind coming into it. I am sure that there are times where MLF has to walk on eggshells and bite his tongue, not wanting to stir that pot again.

That's pure speculation and with Rodgers mentioning that he loves his coaching staff I highly doubt it to be true.

 

[lambeaulambo]

In my opinion it's a strange approach to admire Moss and Sherman for their performance on the field while completely ignoring Rodgers has been the most efficient quarterback of all time for most of his career.



Based on passer rating Rodgers has put together the two best seasons by a QB ever. Yet somehow a lot of Packers fans seem to ignore that completely.



Thompson's decision to move on from the players mentioned was the correct one. It was time.



That's pure speculation and with Rodgers mentioning that he loves his coaching staff I highly doubt it to be true.

Sometimes people are allowed to have opinions, if everyone had the same opinion, that wouldn't make it interesting. Nit picking over and over doesn't make anyone more correct or less correct.

 

[Mondio]

That's pure speculation and with Rodgers mentioning that he loves his coaching staff I highly doubt it to be true.

I would say all the rookies and shuffling on the Oline has had far more to do with any alleged paring down of the playbook vs the HOF QB that has seen, has done, and can still do it all.

 

[PikeBadger]

The deep ball thing is getting blown out of proportion...same as MVS deep ball catch percentage was by many. Deep balls by nature are not the easiest to complete - and is why deep threat receivers rarely put up a season above like 65% catch percentage, many are high 50% - I've shared historical posts about this many times.

Aaron's missed a few for sure, some were crazy bad misses - and he has hit a few, I see nothing wrong.

It seems like Rodgers has been running hot and cold this year on the deep ball. Not near as consistently good as last year imo.

 

[Pugger]

In my opinion it's a strange approach to admire Moss and Sherman for their performance on the field while completely ignoring Rodgers has been the most efficient quarterback of all time for most of his career.



Based on passer rating Rodgers has put together the two best seasons by a QB ever. Yet somehow a lot of Packers fans seem to ignore that completely.



Thompson's decision to move on from the players mentioned was the correct one. It was time.



That's pure speculation and with Rodgers mentioning that he loves his coaching staff I highly doubt it to be true.

I believe Woodson was a mistake to move on from Woodson but the others I agree. I was just posting what I think was one of Rodgers' issues with management this summer.

 

[realitybytez]

I believe Woodson was a mistake to move on from Woodson but the others I agree. I was just posting what I think was one of Rodgers' issues with management this summer.

i think the manner and timing of the release of kumerow was a mistake. not that kumerow was a star or that he had hof potential. heck, i might have released him too at some point before the season. but to do it the day after rodgers had talked him up in the media was just plain a tone-deaf idiot move by gute. he could have let it play out in otas or training camp. just dumb.

 

[Pkrjones]

i think the manner and timing of the release of kumerow was a mistake. not that kumerow was a star or that he had hof potential. heck, i might have released him too at some point before the season. but to do it the day after rodgers had talked him up in the media was just plain a tone-deaf idiot move by gute. he could have let it play out in otas or training camp. just dumb.

Kumerow was released on final cut-down day...9/05/20. AR voiced support for him the day before but I'm sure there was A LOT of thought & discussion prior to his release.

 

[OldSchool101]

Kumerow was released on final cut-down day...9/05/20. AR voiced support for him the day before but I'm sure there was A LOT of thought & discussion prior to his release.

Interesting I didn’t know that. So to me him voicing his “opinion” and the argument about him supporting Kumerow likely has zero to do with Rodgers verbal support. It’s not like Rodgers picked some abstract day here. Matter of fact Rodgers may have had an inclination to expect Jake not to make the final cut.

Kumerow’s status was likely not affected adversely by Rodgers statements of support as some suggest. Those decisions were likely already in process.

 

[LetzBreel]

In my opinion it's a strange approach to admire Moss and Sherman for their performance on the field while completely ignoring Rodgers has been the most efficient quarterback of all time for most of his career.

My question is this - would you rather have efficient QB play or Superbowl wins? Ideally, I would want both. I really do appreciate that #12 rarely turns the ball over and has consistently had great stats but the bottom line is 1-4 in NFC championship games.