Studs n duds Vikings

[PikeBadger]

this country is already tense as a deer's ******** during deer season
maybe don't cannibalize each other
maybe

That’s a definite maybe.

 

[Do7]

"We didn't tackle well today but we made up for it by not blocking." - John McKay

I think this summarizes the game pretty well.

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[Dantés]

So why weren't we stacking the box defensively and forcing Cousins and his receivers to beat us one on one?

How many guys did they have in the box, generally?

 

[PikeBadger]

Waiting for the Round 2 bell

Ding!

 

[sschind]

Duds
D, but RUN D especially
penalties and refs( a couple inconsistent PI calls)

Inbetween
Couple of ESB drops, but couple of good catches

Studs
AR
DA
rest of O generally ok, can't think of anything really good or bad from them

ESB HAD 1 catch to go along with his drops although I didn't see the one in the EZ well enough to call it a drop. He had his hands on it I think and probably could have caught it but a drop...I don't know. I'd call his first one a drop for sure.

 

[Dantés]

So why weren't we stacking the box defensively and forcing Cousins and his receivers to beat us one on one?

Pettine used base defense for 39/52 snaps.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Dud: Opening this thread up before Shoutbox regulars have passed out from drinking too much and/or hyper-ventilating.

 

[adambr2]

Pettine used base defense for 39/52 snaps.

So then the problem isn't schematic, it's just a woefully bad rush defense which isn't likely to improve this season with our existing personnel.

 

[Dantés]

So then the problem isn't schematic, it's just a woefully bad rush defense which isn't likely to improve this season with our existing personnel.

Yep. At least against this particular offense, that’s pretty much right.

 

[adambr2]

Yep. At least against this particular offense, that’s pretty much right.

After seeing the 49ers run at will in the NFCCG and render us helpless to stop it, I'm still baffled as to how we we made no personnel moves to fix this in the offseason.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

After seeing the 49ers run at will in the NFCCG and render us helpless to stop it, I'm still baffled as to how we we made no personnel moves to fix this in the offseason.

Somewhere in New York, Blake Martinez is laughing tonight.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I think this summarizes the game pretty well.

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Gotta love Jim Morra's honesty! If we could only get politicians to be this forthright!

 

[Pugger]

We panicked, started passing, nobody could get open against the Vikings 4th string secondary. Then, we couldn't run anymore. We looked like crap. Get a good def coord.

I suppose once MLF realized his defense couldn't stop Cook I'm not surprised we panicked.

 

[Pugger]

Somewhere in New York, Blake Martinez is laughing tonight.

His team is 1-6 and most likely will be trounced tomorrow night by TB. I doubt he is laughing.

 

[Mondio]

ESB HAD 1 catch to go along with his drops although I didn't see the one in the EZ well enough to call it a drop. He had his hands on it I think and probably could have caught it but a drop...I don't know. I'd call his first one a drop for sure.

The endzone miss would have been a pretty good catch. That first down drop needs to be made with regularity by a legit NFL receiver that wants to have a long career. he did have a nice catch later. Maybe he just has a few to work out of his system. Maybe he's never going to be more than he is.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I said it 2 weeks ago- no preseason and now teams found their grooves

Aside of the Packers defense that is.

No way. They had safeties playing corner and practice squad guys playing throughout the game. Adams torches double-teams all the time. He didn't play to his abilities. I never said he was a dud, but definitely no stud either except for that third TD. Other than that, he was JAG.

The Vikings made it their top priority to slow down Adams by all means with Smith and Harris providing help to their inexperienced cornerbacks.

The Packers weren't able to take advantage of it because they don't have another legit weapon at receiver. I fully expect other teams to follow that blueprint.

Pettine has been using him as a DB all season long. That alone is a fireable offense. Maybe if Pettine used him the way he should be used, the run defense wouldn't be as pathetic as it is.

The Smiths struggle in run defense when lined up on the edges as well though.

He did in the first half but I don't recall us having much success in the second half. I might be mistaken...

The Packers didn't run the ball that much in the second half anymore, totaling only seven attempts.

Pettine used base defense for 39/52 snaps.

That doesn't mean they loaded the box to stop the run though.

 

[scotscheese]

They won’t they have no money and one guy ain’t gonna help the defense what you see is what you unfortunely get

One guy could be enough to help the run D, that IS our biggest problem

ESB HAD 1 catch to go along with his drops although I didn't see the one in the EZ well enough to call it a drop. He had his hands on it I think and probably could have caught it but a drop...I don't know. I'd call his first one a drop for sure.

Only 1? thought he had another 1 or 2. the drops were bad, but the one catch i remember was good, AR put it in a really tight window and he caught it well

 

[Do7]

Gotta love Jim Morra's honesty! If we could only get politicians to be this forthright!

Playoffs!? Don't talk about playoffs! You kidding me!? Playoffs!? I just hope we can win a game! Another game! XD

 

[Joe C.]

Duds
D, but RUN D especially
penalties and refs( a couple inconsistent PI calls)

Inbetween
Couple of ESB drops, but couple of good catches

Studs
AR
DA
rest of O generally ok, can't think of anything really good or bad from them

 

[Joe C.]

Now is the time to improve the defense. Should the Packers make a serious run for the Jets Quinten Williams?

 

[tynimiller]

ESB HAD 1 catch to go along with his drops although I didn't see the one in the EZ well enough to call it a drop. He had his hands on it I think and probably could have caught it but a drop...I don't know. I'd call his first one a drop for sure.

Endzone one was 50/50 ball and defender got hand in there, I'd give DB a breakup on it.

 

[PackerDNA]

Now is the time to improve the defense. Should the Packers make a serious run for the Jets Quinten Williams?

Highly doubtful. All the talk I'm seeing, on NFL Network and everywhere else, is how serious the Packers are about Fuller.

 

[Do7]

This buffers everyone's argument on the fire Pettine bandwagon.

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[gopkrs]

Somewhere in New York, Blake Martinez is laughing tonight.

I like our two young linebackers more than Martinez. I think they need to be coached up some. Especially Barnes, for learning when and where to hit a hole. And I don't have much confidence in our coaches to show the way.

 

[Joe C.]

Duds
D, but RUN D especially
penalties and refs( a couple inconsistent PI calls)

Inbetween
Couple of ESB drops, but couple of good catches

Studs
AR
DA
rest of O generally ok, can't think of anything really good or bad from them

Look to the Jets for a Quinnen Williams trade. Playing him alongside Kenny would significantly improve the run defense.